On Thursday 04 June 2015 06:02 PM, Ruth Suehle wrote:
If you do discuss this at the LATAM and APAC FUDCons, I'd be happy to join over the phone or IRC to offer some budgetary insight. We've discussed subsidies on this list and at Flock before, and no one solution is going to satisfy everyone. But the reality is that the Flock travel budget has been largely consumed for both years by flights from APAC and LATAM.
Agree !! Funding everyone coming from these regions definitely not going to help with any kind of budget. We should ideally decide total funding limit for other regions and prioritize/vote for whom to provide travel subsidy based on some predefined criteria.
People in those regions have their own premier Fedora events and some are in a sense "double dipping" by being funded to attend both.
That is where voting and predefined criteria can come into picture. For FUDCon 2015 we had number of planning meeting to decide subsidies. [1] /me will definitely not bother if particular contributor is playing key role in moving Fedora ahead.
The NA and EMEA people don't have that chance, which means by giving the bulk of the travel funding to APAC and LATAM, we were taking away any chance for the NA and EMEA people to attend a premier Fedora event while the APAC and LATAM contributors were getting two chances.
Agree!! We should have some funding arrangement for deserving contributors from NA and EMEA to attend other region FUDCon events. For FUDCon 2015 from limited budget we have funded few contributors from NA and EMEA regions though. Its actually very good for FUDCon attendees to listen and learn from them.
We did discuss whether it was logical to combine all of the global premier event budgets into one and have a single event. I added up people who received subsidies last year in APAC and LATAM. If we were to fund the same number of people with the ENTIRE LATAM and APAC FUDCon budgets, we would be able to give each $500. Since most people require both hotel and flights to be covered (few are willing/able to travel on partial subsidies), the effect would be that many folks would be left with no event to attend at all, which to me seems like a far worse outcome than regional events.
Yes, not a good idea.
IMHO due to some bad experience we should not boycott whole region contributors from travel subsidy for flock. To me comparing FUDCon, Flock is special conference. Most of the WG leaders and active developers of Fedora are from NA and EMEA. Its good to meet, learn and collaborate with them for Fedora success.
Thanks, Pravin Satpute https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Pravins
1. https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fudcon-planning/2015-05-08/fudcon-planning...