Hello all.

I have been mostly quiet trying to help and doing my best to make my small part of this responsibility work; however i do have some thoughts i would like to share.

1.- About Conference Schedule:  No; there is no way the schedule, not this year and neither next ones; will fulfill every one expectations. Main reason is that even if we are trying to do a DO-Con, we are trying to work with 8 different teams. Truth is that at least 70% of us work with more than one team. Not FEsCo, not Board, not even organizers will be able to manage a perfect schedule while having so many rooms.
Ideas for this:
*  While more rooms, less probabilities of attend to your preferred talks.
*  Next time we could try to have at least 1 empty room all day only for meetings of those people who couldn't see each other at talks or for random purpose meeting (no, not a room for hacking, an extra empty room that can be used for 45min or 2hours period)

2.- About Event Overall: Everyone has this huge expectations on what a DO-Con is but there is NO way we can have both worlds on it. You either consider the developers and "Doers" or you consider the full community, which includes people that watch talks but doesn't do anything. A successful Doers conference can't be this "super mega huge" event because Number 1 rule to let people Do is to not distract them and don't make them run into different rooms every 45min.
* You either let the world know about how awesome Fedora is, or you give them time to work and make Fedora that awesome.

What I think is that in this pursuit of being bigger than other commercial USA events, we have a lack of attention into the small details that make contributors do their work at this gatherings. 

What do I think we should do? Stop trying to conquer the world at a main event and start focusing into teams. We have FADs, which are small events that clearly bring new contributions into Fedora; Why don't we try to recruit everyone everywhere? I just see that in this need of bigger attention, this kind of events will only reinforce the actual contributors but not the new and potential ones, and remember, the number of Fedora contributors that works for RH isn't as big as the number of contributors that have their own life and responsibilities; which means that the 60/70% of the non RH contributors will eventually vanish; so we are talking that we constantly need to be recruiting people that is able to do the Fedora work.

Now I'm wondering; why don't we spend this enormous amount of money and time into make smaller events everywhere; no FUDcons, not FADs, more like hackfest days, Do-days, name it; and gather those teams that need at least 2/3 days lock inside a room to develop and fix parts of Fedora that truly need attention?

Conferences are places to spread what we do and to recruit people; if you don't give people a bit of freedom inside this events, at the end, they will be so busy trying to attend to so many talks that at the 4th day, they won't have develop or write a single line of code. 

People making decisions needs to stop a bit, read what their community has to say, and act based on that. So please, instead trying to find solutions into corporate events, try to look down to your community and listen to what they have to say; Fedora isn't a company, is a community, and if I'm wrong, please excuse my words and move on.

Sorry for the long mail :)




2013/6/25 Toshio Kuratomi <a.badger@gmail.com>
On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 03:15:32PM -0400, Ruth Suehle wrote:
>
> If there's something useful we can do to amend the schedule this time around,
> let's talk about what that is in concrete terms. If it's just "this could be
> useful next time," let's talk about it on August 14. We've got enough to worry
> about for Flock 2013 without trying to start 2014 until it's over!
>
<nod>  My intention was just to put down thoughts for future flocks -- not
to derail the planning for the current flock :-)  We can definitely get back
to all of this once we're back from flock 2013 :-)

-Toshio

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