On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 9:49 AM, Jiri Eischmann <eischmann@redhat.com> wrote:
Stephen John Smoogen píše v St 16. 12. 2015 v 14:38 -0700:
> On 16 December 2015 at 13:15, Josh Boyer <jwboyer@fedoraproject.org>
> wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > In the Council meeting this week, we noted that Flock lands in late
> > August/early September and this is high tourist season in
> > Europe.  It
> > is also a time when many take vacation.  This drives prices up
> > across
> > many of the regions.
> >
> > We wondered aloud if we could shift Flock to dates outside of this
> > window.  The two most likely alternatives would be sometime in July
> > or
> > sometime in November.  We also noted that we should try and avoid
> > conflicting with any other major open source conference, and that
> > July
> > and November seem to fit within that small goal.  There are pros
> > and
> > cons with each date window, but we wanted to see how feasible
> > people
> > thought this would be.
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
>
> My extreme thought: Colocate with FOSDEM or Devconf in 2017. That is
> extremely out there but might be useful to think about just to deal
> with costs and coordination issues.

For DevConf, we're limited to pretty much two dates: summer holidays
and late Jan/early Feb. That's when the local universities have breaks.

We once considered moving DevConf to Sept because weather is not ideal
for traveling in February, but we dismissed the idea because it was too
close to Flock and the Summit.
DevConf and Flock can be co-located, but definitely can't run at the
same time. DevConf is already so big that it has a problem to fit in
Brno venues. Flock is also a traveling conference while DevConf always
takes place in Brno unless someone organizes DevConf.us :)

> Beyond that November would be great if we ran it over Thanksgiving
> week so I could take my family.
>
> Really though, I think November with a strong push to get the release
> out early October is a good idea.

For me as an attendee, August is fine although I'd appreciate if GUADEC
and Flock were at least one week apart. But I understand it's probably
more expensive to get people to the conference in August.
I don't like the idea of November much. It's the main conference
season. I attend at least two conferences in November already, LinuxCon
Europe is in late October etc.

Jiri

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Thank you all for your input on this topic.

For this year, after speaking with Council and with Events organizers within OSAS, I would recommend we stick with our August timeframe, and revisit moving the Flock date after this year's event if necessary.

FYI, there will be a planning call on Wednesday this week to look at the current bids for Vienna and Krakow: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Flock2016-Krakow-proposal and https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Flock2016-Vienna-proposal

Looking Forward,
--RemyD.

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