On Wed, Mar 21, 2018, at 2:57 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
On 03/15/2018 08:53 AM, Matthew Miller wrote:
> Location is still being worked on. But let's talk about the content!
> I think last Flock was... fine... but didn't have the positive energy
> I've gotten from it in years past. I think we should change it up a
> little bit this time around.
> Brian and I talked about this quite a bit after the recent Mindshare
> and Documentation FADs. Those were both incredible, successful events.
> Specifically, I think they were more generally succesful than the
> "do-con" we've pushing Flock towards. Flock is vitally important, but
> instead of focusing all of the get-together-and-do energy in one place
> and time, we should plan on having more hackfests throughout the year.¹
Yeah, I think FAD/hackfests can get a lot done since it's a small group
that can really focus. On the other hand, communication back to the rest
of Fedora is not easy. I did see that there were meeting minutes for the
docs fad and mindshare fad every day, so that was great, but was there
any kind of "what we did" or how it went" ? I don't want to add red
tape, but perhaps we should have all fad/hackfests send out a 'what we
are going to try and do' at the start and then a 'what we did' at the end?
They are supposed to report out like this. I have to follow up on the CommOps hackfest
from earlier this year to see if they wrote a report. The Mindshare report should publish
this week, as the draft just got approved. The Docs hackfest hasn't gotten one yet
because I am backed up, but this excuse needs to be dealt with and one written
Also, there's a danger that some small group of folks will just
implement something without consulting the larger community (In the
cases where it affects them). Back in the flock days we tried to be very
careful to not make decisions at flock, just discuss and come up with
proposals. With a focus more on "doing" perhaps thats not really the
> For Flock, I think we should focus on three things:
>...snip... +1 on focus.
> 1. Plenary (one big room with everyone)
> - A "sales kick-off"² session highlighting the overall messaging plan
> for the year.
> - The metrics runthrough
> - Updates on Fedora Editions and current Objectives (20 minutes each)
> focused on what's exciting for the next year
> 2. New Ideas Talks
> Have the next Fedora Rings, or Fedora Editions plan, or rpm-ostree,
> or something entirely new? Have something that bugs you and a plan
> to fix it? Think we should grow our userbase in a particular area
> by doing something we aren't? Pitch it!
> These sessions would be preselected presentations with a CFP.
> Additionally, presenters should tell us who they need to be in the
> room to discuss / convince / get involved.
> 3. Topic-Focused Discussions
> - SIG and Team meetings
> - Regional planning for the next year
> - Basically, mini-strategic-hackfests for various groups
> 4. A Wrap Up / Readout session (Plenary, again)
> - could include a leadership panel dicussion
> - five-minute summaries from the various breakouts
> What do you all think?
I like it.
I know it depends on logistics, but in the past we have scheduled time
blocks/rooms for various teams. If we could get the large room with
tables or whatever that all teams could carve off a part of I think it
might be better. That way, say someone from docs could walk over to the
infra tables and pitch an idea or say infrastructure could go talk to
i18n about some translation thing, etc. But I know that depends on the
This can be done. Will it be too noisy?
> Also, I'll suggest we at least look at and see if any of these ideas
> are worth doing for flock:
> (and there was another set of them I cant seem to find now, will look
> for it and send once I do).
> > ----
> > 1. More on the separately, since it's not Flock related, but if we had
> > _continuous_ hackfests as productive as these last two (and as many
> > others have been), we'd have astounding amounts of overall project
> > progress. Budget realistically does not actually allow _constant_
> > hackfests, but it's a nice aspiration.
> Awesome to hear!
> > 2. But without actual _sales_, salespeople, or bad jokes.
> Can we still do the bad jokes? :)
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