On Jun 17, 2016 11:16 AM, "Stephen Gallagher" <sgallagh(a)redhat.com>
On 06/17/2016 10:28 AM, Brian (bex) Exelbierd wrote:
> Hi All,
> Rafal, Filip and I have been working hard on the evening activities.
> The current proposal is the following:
> 2 August - Game Night at the Hotel and a City Tour 3 August - 3 hour
> cruise (200 ppl) 4 August - Buffet Dinner and Beer tasting at
> We would like to hear you feedback on these? Do we need all three
> to have an activity? Essentially we have a choice. If we
> cruise or the brewery we can shift 6-8 thousand dollars ($6000 -
> the travel subsidy budget. Would you rather have one activity
> subsidy budget or 2 activities?
Let's assume for the moment that we made the upper end of that ($8000)
travel subsidy. Do we have numbers on the average cost of a subsidy?
enable us to subsidize five additional travelers? Ten? Twenty? I
makes a difference. If it enables us to get a lot more people to the
who would like to attend, then there's real value in that.
travel and lodging is so high that it's a minimal difference
additional subsidies), then it's probably worth it to keep the
As one of the folks running the calculus on travel, I'd say "it depends."
On the high-end, APAC travelers can cost 3k+ in some cases. On the low end,
the (hopefully happening) bus from Brno or a train ride + hotel could be
<1k per traveller.
Since we are already *significantly* investing in travel, at some point we
need to ensure the quality of the experience over extra quantity of
attendees. I think cancelling *all* the evening events would be hugely
detrimental to morale, and should not be considered an option.
One of the big benefits of choosing Krakow was that spending on evening
events would be cheaper than prohibitive venue costs from other bids like
France. If we forgo this then we might as well just book the nearest
cheapest hotel to an airport hub, and call it done next time...
There are other regional events that folks who cannot make it to Flock this
year can attend, and likely other Flocks in the future too.
Please don't cancel the boat,