On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 6:02 PM, Ruth Suehle <rsuehle@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 7:30 AM, P J P <pjp@fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> On Thursday, 4 June 2015 4:28 PM, Josh Boyer wrote:
> These are all worth discussing, but the regional events are already
> planned for this year.  We'll need to address this after Flock, FUDCon
> Pune, etc.

Or maybe at these events too, instead of after. We plan to have an ambassador's panel discussion at FUDCon, IMO unified global event could be one of the topic for such a panel.

Similarly at Flock, it could be posed to the Fedora council members. Just a thought, since both these events are still in the making.

Remember that this is not new. The events have always been regional. We simply combined the NA and EMEA two years ago. We also chose to go to a planned schedule, which the other regions are welcome to adopt as well. (Someone told me that the early FUDCons were done this way as well, but I wasn't at all of those.)

If you do discuss this at the LATAM and APAC FUDCons, I'd be happy to join over the phone or IRC to offer some budgetary insight. We've discussed subsidies on this list and at Flock before, and no one solution is going to satisfy everyone. But the reality is that the Flock travel budget has been largely consumed for both years by flights from APAC and LATAM. People in those regions have their own premier Fedora events and some are in a sense "double dipping" by being funded to attend both. The NA and EMEA people don't have that chance, which means by giving the bulk of the travel funding to APAC and LATAM, we were taking away any chance for the NA and EMEA people to attend a premier Fedora event while the APAC and LATAM contributors were getting two chances.
FUDCon does sponsor partial travel subsidy (full in one or two cases) for a few NA and EMEA contributors. We would love to do more but there are budget constraints. 

We did discuss whether it was logical to combine all of the global premier event budgets into one and have a single event. I added up people who received subsidies last year in APAC and LATAM. If we were to fund the same number of people with the ENTIRE LATAM and APAC FUDCon budgets, we would be able to give each $500. Since most people require both hotel and flights to be covered (few are willing/able to travel on partial subsidies), the effect would be that many folks would be left with no event to attend at all, which to me seems like a far worse outcome than regional events.
I agree with you that it won't be logical to combine all the events. It would just be too expensive. But, may be, we can reach a middle ground where we can partially fund APAC and LATAM contributors. We can set a limit on number of contributors and amount each contributor gets. I think we are already working to get this incorporated in regional budget but that might not be enough.
 

Ruth

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