I spoke with Tom and Ruth earlier about planning Flock bandwidth with the hotel. The Hangouts On Air requirements are not too strict,probably because of the encoder used locally:
https://support.google.com/hangouts/answer/1216376
This shows ~2.6 Mbps uplink bandwidth required per stream (room). We would want to caution people in the room from getting on the live stream while we're uplinking. (It wouldn't make sense anyway, but people do weird things in the name of "testing.")
If we have six rooms, that means ~16 Mbps upstream bandwidth required. Can the Hyatt provide?
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Standard YouTube requirements, by the way, are more stringent, but I think this is designed for professionals or others not using the Hangouts feature:
https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2853702?hl=en
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 1:46 PM, Paul W. Frields stickster@gmail.com wrote:
I spoke with Tom and Ruth earlier about planning Flock bandwidth with the hotel. The Hangouts On Air requirements are not too strict,probably because of the encoder used locally:
https://support.google.com/hangouts/answer/1216376
This shows ~2.6 Mbps uplink bandwidth required per stream (room). We would want to caution people in the room from getting on the live stream while we're uplinking. (It wouldn't make sense anyway, but people do weird things in the name of "testing.")
If we have six rooms, that means ~16 Mbps upstream bandwidth required. Can the Hyatt provide?
If not, we also discussed not doing streaming in all the rooms. The number of hits we got on the live streams over the past two Flocks were fairly low. It's quite a bit of hassle to set this up and we want to make sure it's actually worthwhile for all talks instead of just for the large room.
josh
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On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 1:46 PM, Paul W. Frields stickster@gmail.com wrote:
I spoke with Tom and Ruth earlier about planning Flock bandwidth with the hotel. The Hangouts On Air requirements are not too strict,probably because of the encoder used locally:
https://support.google.com/hangouts/answer/1216376
This shows ~2.6 Mbps uplink bandwidth required per stream (room). We would want to caution people in the room from getting on the live stream while we're uplinking. (It wouldn't make sense anyway, but people do weird things in the name of "testing.")
If we have six rooms, that means ~16 Mbps upstream bandwidth required. Can the Hyatt provide?
If not, we also discussed not doing streaming in all the rooms. The number of hits we got on the live streams over the past two Flocks were fairly low. It's quite a bit of hassle to set this up and we want to make sure it's actually worthwhile for all talks instead of just for the large room.
Looking on analytics from Prague, we had only 48 views online during the event but several thousand recording views (*). So the live stream is not the must but having recordings available as soon as possible is a good idea. With the way how Google's streaming works, it's easiest way but...
Screenshot from analytics: http://rezza.hofyland.cz/fedora/flock/flock-stats.png Full stats CSV: http://rezza.hofyland.cz/fedora/flock/views.csv
(*) EU Flock, so timezones makes difference for folks in the US, other way it's possible to watch live streams.
Jaroslav
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Hi Josh,
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 1:59 PM, Josh Boyer jwboyer@fedoraproject.org wrote:
If not, we also discussed not doing streaming in all the rooms. The number of hits we got on the live streams over the past two Flocks were fairly low. It's quite a bit of hassle to set this up and we want to make sure it's actually worthwhile for all talks instead of just for the large room.
FWIW I've never attended Flock in person but I've attended every one virtually via the video streams, and the summary blog posts I did via those video streams got a *lot* of hits on my personal blog.
~m
On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 8:22 AM, Máirín Duffy duffy@fedoraproject.org wrote:
Hi Josh,
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 1:59 PM, Josh Boyer jwboyer@fedoraproject.org wrote:
If not, we also discussed not doing streaming in all the rooms. The number of hits we got on the live streams over the past two Flocks were fairly low. It's quite a bit of hassle to set this up and we want to make sure it's actually worthwhile for all talks instead of just for the large room.
FWIW I've never attended Flock in person but I've attended every one virtually via the video streams, and the summary blog posts I did via those video streams got a *lot* of hits on my personal blog.
Yes, I know. I brought you up specifically in our meeting as an example of the streams being useful :). I think we're still going down the path of doing live streams like we did in Charleston, but we have to make sure it's affordable to do so. If not, then recording should still be done.
josh
Hi Josh!
On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 9:16 AM, Josh Boyer jwboyer@fedoraproject.org wrote:
Yes, I know. I brought you up specifically in our meeting as an example of the streams being useful :). I think we're still going down the path of doing live streams like we did in Charleston, but we have to make sure it's affordable to do so. If not, then recording should still be done.
Yay :)
I am planning to be there in-person this year so I won't be on the other end this time.
If it requires a financial investment to make the streams happen, maybe we should wrangle a crew of volunteers to do the transcribing in IRC as we've done in the past ahead of time so we know we've got people committed to using the streams for that purpose.
~m
On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 08:22:49AM -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote:
FWIW I've never attended Flock in person but I've attended every one virtually via the video streams, and the summary blog posts I did via those video streams got a *lot* of hits on my personal blog.
And I know I've gushed about it before, but I'll say it again: those have been _amazing_, and I've always appreciated them even as an in-person attendee unable to be everywhere at once.
Random idea -
On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 10:01 AM, Matthew Miller mattdm@fedoraproject.org wrote:
efore, but I'll say it again: those have been _amazing_, and I've always appreciated them even as an in-person attendee unable to be everywhere at once.
I don't know if the community funding requests have been looked at yet, but I wonder if we could get funded attendees on-site to help by live IRC transcribing as a potential component of their funding. I think traditionally we require people to blog, but transcribing would be as useful if folks were willing to volunteer?
~m
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