Flock and design tasks

[Máirín Duffy]

Hi,

It's two months pre-Flock and the design team only has one ticket - the 
website banner for the website. We'll have to create a logo, and I'm 
assuming there will be other assets we need to design for the event.

July is a big vacation month, and there's not so much time left even if 
that wasn't the case, so to make sure nothing falls on the floor, can 
someone let us know what items need to be designed for Flock so we can 
work on them?

Thanks,
~m

[Matthew Miller]

On Tue, Jun 05, 2018 at 02:06:53PM -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote:
>  July is a big vacation month, and there's not so much time left
> even
>  if that wasn't the case, so to make sure nothing falls on the floor,
>  can someone let us know what items need to be designed for Flock so
>  we can work on them? 
Bex is on vacation this month. I don't know if he was planning a
printed program. Things I can think of other than that are:

* badges
* tshirt
* maybe a promotional graphic for Magazine articles / sharing online?

What else have we had in previous years?


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<mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org&gt;
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[Tom Callaway]

On 06/06/2018 11:45 AM, Matthew Miller wrote:
>  On Tue, Jun 05, 2018 at 02:06:53PM -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote:
> > July is a big vacation month, and there's not so much time left even
> > if that wasn't the case, so to make sure nothing falls on the floor,
> > can someone let us know what items need to be designed for Flock so
> > we can work on them?
>  
>  Bex is on vacation this month. I don't know if he was planning a
>  printed program. Things I can think of other than that are:
>  
>  * badges
>  * tshirt
>  * maybe a promotional graphic for Magazine articles / sharing online?
>  
>  What else have we had in previous years? 
* program
* sponsorship prospectus

~tom

[Frank E. Zimmer]

Hi,

In Cracow we had additionally a bottle which might be quite useful since it
is the middle of the summer.

Frank

On Wed, 6 Jun 2018 at 17:49, Tom Callaway <tcallawa(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote:

>  On 06/06/2018 11:45 AM, Matthew Miller wrote:
>  > On Tue, Jun 05, 2018 at 02:06:53PM -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote:
>  >> July is a big vacation month, and there's not so much time left even
>  >> if that wasn't the case, so to make sure nothing falls on the floor,
>  >> can someone let us know what items need to be designed for Flock so
>  >> we can work on them?
>  >
>  > Bex is on vacation this month. I don't know if he was planning a
>  > printed program. Things I can think of other than that are:
>  >
>  > * badges
>  > * tshirt
>  > * maybe a promotional graphic for Magazine articles / sharing online?
>  >
>  > What else have we had in previous years?
>
>  * program
>  * sponsorship prospectus
>
>  ~tom
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[Design-team] Re: Flock and design tasks

[Brian (bex) Exelbierd]

On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 5:45 PM Matthew Miller <mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org&gt;
wrote:

>  On Tue, Jun 05, 2018 at 02:06:53PM -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote:
>  > July is a big vacation month, and there's not so much time left even
>  > if that wasn't the case, so to make sure nothing falls on the floor,
>  > can someone let us know what items need to be designed for Flock so
>  > we can work on them?
>
>  Bex is on vacation this month. 

This week. I’ll work on a reply when I get back. Has the open design ticket
been resolved?

Thank you,

Regards,

bex

I don't know if he was planning a
>  printed program. Things I can think of other than that are:
>
>  * badges
>  * tshirt
>  * maybe a promotional graphic for Magazine articles / sharing online?
>
>  What else have we had in previous years?
>
>
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[Design-team] Re: Flock and design tasks

[Máirín Duffy]

Hi Matthew,

This is what we've had in the past that the design team worked on:

https://pagure.io/design/issues?status=Closed&search_pattern=flock

- travel guide
- wifi portal logo
- tshirt
- fedora mag banners
- blog banners ("i'm going to flock")
- qr scan poster for badge
- fedora badges associated with event
- room signage / directional signage
- lanyards
- sticker sheets
- schedule booklet / printouts (last year ryan did a wall schedule)

Not knowing what swag / collateral budget is available and what items 
might be planned, nor what rooms or how many rooms there will be, nor 
the schedule to create the schedule booklet.... I'm concerned about how 
we'll make progress on anything listed above except for:

- the blog banners
- the Fedora magazine banners
- the logo which we could use for a t-shirt design if there's budget 
and intention to have t-shirts.

We have already gotten started on the logo, and can get started right 
away on the other two banners. I am concerned about the other items.

I am on vacation the first week in July, and I will be taking on and 
orienting a new intern the second week of July, so I won't be available 
in July until the second half, which is 2-3 weeks before the event and 
too late to create and have designs ready for vendors to produce 
including their production time.

~m

On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 11:45 AM, Matthew Miller 
<mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org&gt; wrote:
>  On Tue, Jun 05, 2018 at 02:06:53PM -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote:
> >  July is a big vacation month, and there's not so much time left even
> >  if that wasn't the case, so to make sure nothing falls on the floor,
> >  can someone let us know what items need to be designed for Flock so
> >  we can work on them?
>  
>  Bex is on vacation this month. I don't know if he was planning a
>  printed program. Things I can think of other than that are:
>  
>  * badges
>  * tshirt
>  * maybe a promotional graphic for Magazine articles / sharing online?
>  
>  What else have we had in previous years?
>  
>  
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>  <mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org&gt;
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[Design-team] Re: Flock and design tasks

[Máirín Duffy]

Hi,

On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 12:43 PM, Brian (bex) Exelbierd 
<bexelbie(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote:
>  
>  This week. I’ll work on a reply when I get back. Has the open 
>  design ticket been resolved? 
>   
https://pagure.io/design/issue/597

The design and CSS assets are complete but need to be integrated into 
the site.

Note we produced Dresden-specific assets since they are the more 
pressing need, but because the logo is text+css based, the location can 
easily be swapped and the background photo can be removed to show only 
the background color that's generically Fedora appropriate.

~m

[Design-team] Re: Flock and design tasks

[Matthew Miller]

On Wed, Jun 06, 2018 at 06:43:04PM +0200, Brian (bex) Exelbierd wrote:
>  > Bex is on vacation this month. 
Uh, sorry. Overstated. :)


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[Design-team] Re: Flock and design tasks

[Paul Frields]

Given the lack of overlapping time available, I think it would make
sense to do the following:

* Continue to develop a standard logo and/or group of assets that can
be used in several places
* Prioritize the 4-5 deliverables that are the most important to have
for the event
* Make the assets available so that, if time or people allow,
something extra can be done

Keeping in mind that physical production needs lead time, I'd suggest
prioritizing any shirt and physical badge. Printed material seems like
it could be least important. We can just as easily throw e.g. a
session schedule and travel info on the wiki.
On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 12:44 PM Máirín Duffy <duffy(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote:
>
> Hi Matthew,
>
> This is what we've had in the past that the design team worked on:
>
> https://pagure.io/design/issues?status=Closed&search_pattern=flock
>
> - travel guide
> - wifi portal logo
> - tshirt
> - fedora mag banners
> - blog banners ("i'm going to flock")
> - qr scan poster for badge
> - fedora badges associated with event
> - room signage / directional signage
> - lanyards
> - sticker sheets
> - schedule booklet / printouts (last year ryan did a wall schedule)
>
> Not knowing what swag / collateral budget is available and what items might be
planned, nor what rooms or how many rooms there will be, nor the schedule to create the
schedule booklet.... I'm concerned about how we'll make progress on anything
listed above except for:
>
> - the blog banners
> - the Fedora magazine banners
> - the logo which we could use for a t-shirt design if there's budget and
intention to have t-shirts.
>
> We have already gotten started on the logo, and can get started right away on the
other two banners. I am concerned about the other items.
>
> I am on vacation the first week in July, and I will be taking on and orienting a new
intern the second week of July, so I won't be available in July until the second half,
which is 2-3 weeks before the event and too late to create and have designs ready for
vendors to produce including their production time.
>
> ~m
>
> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 11:45 AM, Matthew Miller <mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org&gt;
wrote:
>
> On Tue, Jun 05, 2018 at 02:06:53PM -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote:
>
> July is a big vacation month, and there's not so much time left even if that
wasn't the case, so to make sure nothing falls on the floor, can someone let us know
what items need to be designed for Flock so we can work on them?
>
> Bex is on vacation this month. I don't know if he was planning a printed program.
Things I can think of other than that are: * badges * tshirt * maybe a promotional graphic
for Magazine articles / sharing online? What else have we had in previous years?
> --
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[Design-team] Re: Flock and design tasks

[Brian (bex) Exelbierd]

On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 6:44 PM, Máirín Duffy <duffy(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote:

>  Hi Matthew,
>
>  This is what we've had in the past that the design team worked on:
>
>  https://pagure.io/design/issues?status=Closed&search_pattern=flock
>
>  - travel guide
>  - wifi portal logo
>  - tshirt
>  - fedora mag banners
>  - blog banners ("i'm going to flock")
>  - qr scan poster for badge
>  - fedora badges associated with event
>  - room signage / directional signage
>  - lanyards
>  - sticker sheets
>  - schedule booklet / printouts (last year ryan did a wall schedule)
>
>  Not knowing what swag / collateral budget is available and what items
>  might be planned, nor what rooms or how many rooms there will be, nor the
>  schedule to create the schedule booklet.... I'm concerned about how we'll
>  make progress on anything listed above except for:
>
>  - the blog banners
>  - the Fedora magazine banners
>  - the logo which we could use for a t-shirt design if there's budget and
>  intention to have t-shirts.
>
>  We have already gotten started on the logo, and can get started right away
>  on the other two banners. I am concerned about the other items.
>  

Thank you for the comprehensive list Mo, this was super helpful.  Also,
thank you for working on completing the new art and CSS.  I think I
integrated it correctly into the site.  That said, your
feedback/improvements are always welcome.

I talked to Matthew yesterday about the artwork.  We want to continue to
put the focus on the Fedora brand, Since Flock is an internally focused
conference, it doesn't need fancy external branding work.  We wonder if we
the design team could focus on a logo and concept that could become a
standard design to be used from year to year.  This design could feature an
optionally changing element, for example (and not restricted to) a line art
city-theme that changes in the background of the logo.  This, it seems
would allow us to create a set of design tasks that would be good
easyfix/first tasks each year (i.e. update the Flock logo with a new
number), and opportunity for creativity when the team has the capacity for
it (add the line-art like thing), and reduce the amount of effort that
needs to be put in each year to produce all of the various collateral.

This would seem to translate into set designs (with, ideally simple
mandatory updates and some optional creativity updates) for:

- A logo/masthead for printed/pdf'ed documents
- A website/magazine banner header
- Blog/tweet promo banners
- "attended" fedora badge

Effort can be focused each year on the:
- "party" fedora badge
- T-shirt, if we have one
- any extras, if needed

A special note about T-shirts.  We would like to make Fedora the prominent
brand on the t-shirt, possibly even not mentioning Flock at all.  The goal
here is to give our contributors a shirt to wear that starts a conversation
about Fedora first, and not a "What is Flock?" conversation.  If we have
sponsors who will be on the shirt, we would consider producing a second
t-shirt that is a Fedora-branded and themed Flock shirt with sponsors.
This gets around the issue that many people have raised about not wanting
to wear a sponsor branded shirt.

Right now, we have budgeted for the Fedora t-shirt mentioned.  We currently
do not have sponsors requesting a t-shirt printing.

How can we help make this happen?  Would me opening design tickets help?

Thanks,

bex


>  I am on vacation the first week in July, and I will be taking on and
>  orienting a new intern the second week of July, so I won't be available in
>  July until the second half, which is 2-3 weeks before the event and too
>  late to create and have designs ready for vendors to produce including
>  their production time.
>
>  ~m
>
>  On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 11:45 AM, Matthew Miller <mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org&gt;
>  wrote:
>
>  On Tue, Jun 05, 2018 at 02:06:53PM -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote:
>
>  July is a big vacation month, and there's not so much time left even if
>  that wasn't the case, so to make sure nothing falls on the floor, can
>  someone let us know what items need to be designed for Flock so we can work
>  on them?
>
>  Bex is on vacation this month. I don't know if he was planning a printed
>  program. Things I can think of other than that are: * badges * tshirt *
>  maybe a promotional graphic for Magazine articles / sharing online? What
>  else have we had in previous years?
>  --
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[Design-team] Re: Flock and design tasks

[Máirín Duffy]

Hi,

On 06/13/2018 08:33 AM, Brian (bex) Exelbierd wrote:
>  I talked to Matthew yesterday about the artwork.  We want to continue
> to 
>  put the focus on the Fedora brand, Since Flock is an internally focused 
>  conference, it doesn't need fancy external branding work.  We wonder if 
>  we the design team could focus on a logo and concept that could become a 
>  standard design to be used from year to year.  This design could feature 
>  an optionally changing element, for example (and not restricted to) a 
>  line art city-theme that changes in the background of the logo.  
Absolutely. This was the exact approach we took with FUDcons. We can 
easily produce a lockup Flock logo template where the city name can be 
filled in and the logo generated. (The idea for that came from how 
regional barcamp logos work.)

Given installation of the correct fonts, this could even be scripted.

>  This, 
>  it seems would allow us to create a set of design tasks that would be 
>  good easyfix/first tasks each year (i.e. update the Flock logo with a 
>  new number), and opportunity for creativity when the team has the 
>  capacity for it (add the line-art like thing), and reduce the amount of 
>  effort that needs to be put in each year to produce all of the various 
>  collateral. 
+9999

>  This would seem to translate into set designs (with, ideally simple 
>  mandatory updates and some optional creativity updates) for:
>  
>  - A logo/masthead for printed/pdf'ed documents
>  - A website/magazine banner header
>  - Blog/tweet promo banners
>  - "attended" fedora badge
>  
>  Effort can be focused each year on the:
>  - "party" fedora badge
>  - T-shirt, if we have one
>  - any extras, if needed
>  
>  A special note about T-shirts.  We would like to make Fedora the 
>  prominent brand on the t-shirt, possibly even not mentioning Flock at 
>  all.  The goal here is to give our contributors a shirt to wear that 
>  starts a conversation about Fedora first, and not a "What is Flock?" 
>  conversation.  If we have sponsors who will be on the shirt, we would 
>  consider producing a second t-shirt that is a Fedora-branded and themed 
>  Flock shirt with sponsors.  This gets around the issue that many people 
>  have raised about not wanting to wear a sponsor branded shirt. 
I love the idea of focusing on a shirt that is Fedora first and could 
even be used in other contexts.

If there are folks who don't want to wear a sponsor-branded shirt - I 
would argue that we shouldn't be creating the shirts, it seems wasteful 
to me. Do sponsors insist on being present on the shirt specifically, or 
could other equivalent kinds of exposure be offered instead - on any 
printed program / schedule materials, an article in Fedora Magazine or 
the Community Blog featuring the sponsor, etc? Could we be more creative 
about their logos' placement?

>  Right now, we have budgeted for the Fedora t-shirt mentioned.  We 
>  currently do not have sponsors requesting a t-shirt printing.
>  
>  How can we help make this happen?  Would me opening design tickets help? 
Opening tickets would definitely be helpful. This is what I'm seeing in 
terms of needed tickets, highlighting info that we need:

Design Team
https://pagure.io/design/issues
-------------------------------

1 - T-shirt ticket: how fancy do you want to go, minimal colors or 
something brighter and colorful; what base color of shirt fabric are you 
thinking; just a front design or a back design too? Beyond "Flock: 
Dresden" what should it say or have? Also - since it's Fedora first, we 
have pre-existing Fedora shirt designs we could just use off-the-shelf 
if there are any of interest.

2. Logo/masthead for printed/PDF documents: some context for what 
documents you're anticipating (a printed program/schedule? a visa 
invitation letter? something else?) What format(s) the design should be 
in. Any relevant specs (I'm assuming A4? For typical office printing 
with no full bleed?)

3. Website/magazine banner header - I do already have a ticket for 
Magazine / Community blog - https://pagure.io/design/issue/599 so this 
is set.

4. Blog/tweet promo banners - this isn't my expertise in terms of the 
standards for these - is there anyone twitter / social savvy who knows 
the right dimensions / specs for how these are typically done?

5. Anything else needed in the extras category

Badges
https://pagure.io/fedora-badges/issues
--------------------------------------

1. party badge

2. attended badge



Cheers,
~m

[Design-team] Re: Flock and design tasks

[Máirín Duffy]

Oops, one thing I forgot that I think you'll need? (See below)

On 06/13/2018 10:20 AM, Máirín Duffy wrote:
>  Design Team
>  https://pagure.io/design/issues
>  -------------------------------
>  
>  1 - T-shirt ticket: how fancy do you want to go, minimal colors or 
>  something brighter and colorful; what base color of shirt fabric are you 
>  thinking; just a front design or a back design too? Beyond "Flock: 
>  Dresden" what should it say or have? Also - since it's Fedora first, we 
>  have pre-existing Fedora shirt designs we could just use off-the-shelf 
>  if there are any of interest.
>  
>  2. Logo/masthead for printed/PDF documents: some context for what 
>  documents you're anticipating (a printed program/schedule? a visa 
>  invitation letter? something else?) What format(s) the design should be 
>  in. Any relevant specs (I'm assuming A4? For typical office printing 
>  with no full bleed?)
>  
>  3. Website/magazine banner header - I do already have a ticket for 
>  Magazine / Community blog - https://pagure.io/design/issue/599 so this 
>  is set.
>  
>  4. Blog/tweet promo banners - this isn't my expertise in terms of the 
>  standards for these - is there anyone twitter / social savvy who knows 
>  the right dimensions / specs for how these are typically done?
>  
>  5. Anything else needed in the extras category 
6. qr scan posters for badges so people can get the attended badge and 
party badges? Or is there another plan to award those?

> 
> Badges
> https://pagure.io/fedora-badges/issues
> --------------------------------------
> 
> 1. party badge
> 
> 2. attended badge
> 
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> ~m
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