On 07/11/2017 12:39 PM, Brian Exelbierd wrote:
On Mon, Jul 10, 2017, at 11:01 PM, Robert Mayr wrote:
> 2017-07-10 21:58 GMT+02:00 Matthew Miller <mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org>:
>> On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 01:56:47PM -0400, Jennifer Madriaga wrote:
>>> I would strongly advise against cutting sponsor logos on shirts. That is a
>>> very standard offering for event sponsors across events. Yes, we're
>>> marketing them, but that's why they're paying sponsorship money--to
>>> recognized for the contributions in a tangible marketing way.
>> I understand that point, but I have a different view. :)
>> We want the Fedora t-shirts to be a special perk for contributors;
>> something where they can take away to show their Fedora pride. While we
>> value our sponsors, having other logos on the shirt detracts from that;
>> it seems less special and more like vendor promo swag.
I agree with this sentiment, but agree that it is hard to reconcile this
with sponsor value. Of the sponsors I am talking to right now, only one
has communicated their understanding of value outside of association
with open source (which is what the logo does).
With that in mind, I propose two things:
1. Because of the time and ongoing conversations, let's move forward
with sponsor logos on shirts for this year for flock.
2. Let's consider whether we can budget to print a special edition
Fedora-only shirt for attendees for next year. I suspect that we won't
have budget to do it this year, but we can certainly look into it. It
is, as I understand it, rare for our contributors to receive t-shirts
"out of the blue." This is a chance to do that in the future. I
realize this will mean that flock will probably have two shirts. I
further suggest that we resolve that by saying we will print the fedora
only shirt without regard to sponsorship and we will print a
flock-themed fedora shirt only if there is a shirt sponsor.
I hope this is not a
terrible idea - A reversible t-shirts, one side
with only Fedora,flock logos and other side for sponsors logos).
This is a sample one -
>> Matthew Miller
>> Fedora Project Leader
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> From a contributor POV that exactly gets the point and a Fedora shirt
> (only Fedora) is still something very special.
> I got shirts from BarCamps with 3-4 sponsors on it, but beside it has
> less value for me, I am wearing it only at home. I understand Josh's
> point, but we want people to wear our Fedora shirt as often as they
> I don't think being on a shirt is a condition for sponsors to help
> Fedora, we can find many other and more effective ways to let people
> know who sponsored FLOCK. Don't make it too dramatic if we don't put
> them on our contributor shirt.
> Robert Mayr
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