3:21 p.m.
Of course Flock will have the usual State of Fedora FPL keynote, but I
think it would be great to have other keynotes each day of Flock as well.
Any suggestions on whom we should approach (even better if you know them!)?
Ruth
3:41 p.m.
On 29 May 2013 14:21, Ruth Suehle <rsuehle(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Of course Flock will have the usual State of Fedora FPL keynote, but
I
think it would be great to have other keynotes each day of Flock as well.
Any suggestions on whom we should approach (even better if you know them!)?
Well keynotes are usually tied into the theme of a conference.. so
suggesting the Red Hat CEO might not be good if that is not the theme. What
is the theme of Flock? [And sorry if I am missing something obvious.]
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3:50 p.m.
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 4:41 PM, Stephen John Smoogen <smooge(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On 29 May 2013 14:21, Ruth Suehle <rsuehle(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Of course Flock will have the usual State of Fedora FPL keynote, but I
> think it would be great to have other keynotes each day of Flock as well.
> Any suggestions on whom we should approach (even better if you know them!)?
>
Well keynotes are usually tied into the theme of a conference.. so
suggesting the Red Hat CEO might not be good if that is not the theme. What
is the theme of Flock? [And sorry if I am missing something obvious.]
I'm not sure there's a set theme. I'm also not sure you need one to
come up with keynote speakers. Find people doing really interesting
stuff with Fedora that we don't normally see, or find people using
Fedora in high profile places to discuss why they use it, etc.
Another idea could be to look at the resulting talks submitted and
perhaps do keynote speakers based on the tracks that fall out from
those. E.g. if you have a kernel track, an ARM track, a security
track, and a design track, you could invite keynote speakers that are
from each of those communities.
I think the options are fairly open ended, but the end result should
be speakers relevant in some way to Fedora.
josh
3:56 p.m.
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 3:41 PM, Stephen John Smoogen <smooge(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On 29 May 2013 14:21, Ruth Suehle <rsuehle(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Of course Flock will have the usual State of Fedora FPL keynote, but I
> think it would be great to have other keynotes each day of Flock as well.
> Any suggestions on whom we should approach (even better if you know them!)?
>
Well keynotes are usually tied into the theme of a conference.. so
suggesting the Red Hat CEO might not be good if that is not the theme. What
is the theme of Flock? [And sorry if I am missing something obvious.]
Good question. I once in the past did extend an invitation to Michael
Tiemann to join us in Arizona I believe and there were some other
obligations that prevented it at the time but he was very receptive to
the idea. I think he could easily deliver a talk that would inspire
us.
John
4:02 p.m.
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Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 1:41:25 PM
Subject: Re: Keynotes
On 29 May 2013 14:21, Ruth Suehle < rsuehle(a)gmail.com > wrote:
Of course Flock will have the usual State of Fedora FPL keynote, but I think
it would be great to have other keynotes each day of Flock as well. Any
suggestions on whom we should approach (even better if you know them!)?
Well keynotes are usually tied into the theme of a conference.. so suggesting
the Red Hat CEO might not be good if that is not the theme. What is the
theme of Flock? [And sorry if I am missing something obvious.]
I hope it is "get together and get things done/planned" :)
Aside from the FPL talk, which is not so much "so I have a keynote!" and more to
make sure that future FPLs also have the opportunity to set the tone and issue the
"go forth and kick butt" vibe... unless the topic is highly pertinent to Fedora,
keynotes could be boring/not time well-used (If I had a dollar for every boring keynote I
have attended, it would be almost as much as the If I had a dollar for every irrelevant
keynote I didn't attend pile of money.)
It could also bring up logistics issues of "need to have separate theatre-style room
available all mornings." Not sure if that's an issue or not offhand.
That said: I think other cool keynote possibilities are:
* People/Company using Fedora to make Real Downstream Product Things that are not ... RHEL
(Arista Networks comes to mind with EOS)
* Continuous Integration/Continuous Delivery/Deployment (or even more loosely, devops)
topic - I can give a long list of names here. But the question here is - can they make it
relevant to Fedora? Obviously it's a direction folks are talking about and I think it
would be dandy to have an inspiring talk along the lines of of "look, end of rainbow!
so pretty. we can get there!"
* Sessions just expected to have asininely high participation could sub in.
Also: Instead of keynotes, could do a lightning-style session of "recap of everything
yesterday" (this is similar to how ODS sums things up, so people get the gist of
what's transpiring without having to be in all places at once) - 5m per
team/group/session/whatever we decide. (ODS does it by project, the lead takes the
responsibility to pull that stuff together each day, iirc.)
-r
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4:09 p.m.
Hello all.
It would be definitely cool to have keynotes everyday and I'm sure there
are plenty of topics that could be interesting; however, my only question
would be what's our target (knowing that the idea is to gather people who
*make things*) just to show them how awesome we (or some companies) are, or
projects proposal that can make them want to contribute?
I might not be well experienced in huge events like most people in NA and
EMEA are; however, it would be cool that keynotes encourage
developers/designers/translators/etc to join an initiative or a project and
not just turn into an informative -huge talk-
See ya.
2013/5/29 Robyn Bergeron <rbergero(a)redhat.com>
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> From: "Stephen John Smoogen" <smooge(a)gmail.com>
> To: "Planning discussion for Flock (Fedora Contributor Conference)" <
flock-planning(a)lists.fedoraproject.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 1:41:25 PM
> Subject: Re: Keynotes
>
>
>
>
> On 29 May 2013 14:21, Ruth Suehle < rsuehle(a)gmail.com > wrote:
>
>
>
> Of course Flock will have the usual State of Fedora FPL keynote, but I
think
> it would be great to have other keynotes each day of Flock as well. Any
> suggestions on whom we should approach (even better if you know them!)?
>
>
> Well keynotes are usually tied into the theme of a conference.. so
suggesting
> the Red Hat CEO might not be good if that is not the theme. What is the
> theme of Flock? [And sorry if I am missing something obvious.]
I hope it is "get together and get things done/planned" :)
Aside from the FPL talk, which is not so much "so I have a keynote!" and
more to make sure that future FPLs also have the opportunity to set the
tone and issue the "go forth and kick butt" vibe... unless the topic is
highly pertinent to Fedora, keynotes could be boring/not time well-used (If
I had a dollar for every boring keynote I have attended, it would be almost
as much as the If I had a dollar for every irrelevant keynote I didn't
attend pile of money.)
It could also bring up logistics issues of "need to have separate
theatre-style room available all mornings." Not sure if that's an issue or
not offhand.
That said: I think other cool keynote possibilities are:
* People/Company using Fedora to make Real Downstream Product Things that
are not ... RHEL (Arista Networks comes to mind with EOS)
* Continuous Integration/Continuous Delivery/Deployment (or even more
loosely, devops) topic - I can give a long list of names here. But the
question here is - can they make it relevant to Fedora? Obviously it's a
direction folks are talking about and I think it would be dandy to have an
inspiring talk along the lines of of "look, end of rainbow! so pretty. we
can get there!"
* Sessions just expected to have asininely high participation could sub
in.
Also: Instead of keynotes, could do a lightning-style session of "recap of
everything yesterday" (this is similar to how ODS sums things up, so people
get the gist of what's transpiring without having to be in all places at
once) - 5m per team/group/session/whatever we decide. (ODS does it by
project, the lead takes the responsibility to pull that stuff together each
day, iirc.)
-r
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On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 4:09 PM, María Leandro <tatica(a)fedoraproject.org> wrote:
Hello all.
It would be definitely cool to have keynotes everyday and I'm sure there are
plenty of topics that could be interesting; however, my only question would
be what's our target (knowing that the idea is to gather people who *make
things*) just to show them how awesome we (or some companies) are, or
projects proposal that can make them want to contribute?
I might not be well experienced in huge events like most people in NA and
EMEA are; however, it would be cool that keynotes encourage
developers/designers/translators/etc to join an initiative or a project and
not just turn into an informative -huge talk-
I think the best keynotes I have seen are often only tangentially
related to the conference itself. But they are always inspiring, fill
you with wonder, and make you think about things in some new way.
For example, Dr. Hong from RoMeLa would knock our socks off if he came to talk.
http://www.romela.org/main/Robotics_and_Mechanisms_Laboratory
John
4:40 p.m.
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 5:02 PM, Robyn Bergeron <rbergero(a)redhat.com> wrote:
It could also bring up logistics issues of "need to have separate
theatre-style room available all mornings." Not sure if that's an issue or
not offhand.
This part is not a problem. In fact, we may have the auditorium the whole
time.
I mentioned Flock to Michael Tiemann when I ran into him at Free Comic Book
Day (of all places). He didn't say he couldn't come, so I could ask if he'd
come do a keynote.
6:47 a.m.
----- Original Message -----
Aside from the FPL talk, which is not so much "so I have a
keynote!" and more
to make sure that future FPLs also have the opportunity to set the tone and
issue the "go forth and kick butt" vibe... unless the topic is highly
pertinent to Fedora, keynotes could be boring/not time well-used (If I had a
dollar for every boring keynote I have attended, it would be almost as much
as the If I had a dollar for every irrelevant keynote I didn't attend pile
of money.)
It could also bring up logistics issues of "need to have separate
theatre-style room available all mornings." Not sure if that's an issue or
not offhand.
That said: I think other cool keynote possibilities are:
* People/Company using Fedora to make Real Downstream Product Things that are
not ... RHEL (Arista Networks comes to mind with EOS)
* Continuous Integration/Continuous Delivery/Deployment (or even more
loosely, devops) topic - I can give a long list of names here. But the
question here is - can they make it relevant to Fedora? Obviously it's a
direction folks are talking about and I think it would be dandy to have an
inspiring talk along the lines of of "look, end of rainbow! so pretty. we
can get there!"
* Sessions just expected to have asininely high participation could sub in.
Or from our upstreams - we talk a lot how we do upstream first but we do not
know much about upstreams and what they do/plan to do and it directly affects
Fedora. But for the most important ones, I'm not sure we can get people as
because of pretty tight coexistence with Guadec and I'll expect everyone is
going to be there :(
Also: Instead of keynotes, could do a lightning-style session of
"recap of
everything yesterday" (this is similar to how ODS sums things up, so people
get the gist of what's transpiring without having to be in all places at
once) - 5m per team/group/session/whatever we decide. (ODS does it by
project, the lead takes the responsibility to pull that stuff together each
day, iirc.)
I really like this idea - better than keynote. Especially if you realize
when talking to people being at FUDCon that on that FUDCon we talked/decided
X and they are - "Really? Wow, I didn't know. When? Who?". So recap in the
morning for everyone to be on the same board and allow people to potentially
join the upcoming discussion - worth $1 billion!
R.
-r
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Of course Flock will have the usual State of Fedora FPL keynote,
but I think it would be great to have other keynotes each day of
Flock as well. Any suggestions on whom we should approach (even
better if you know them!)?
I'm not sure if he's planning to come to Flock, but Lennart
Poettering's "What are we breaking now?" series of talks would make an
excellent keynote. I'll check with him if he's going to attend.
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9:50 a.m.
On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 07:47:14AM -0400, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
----- Original Message -----
> Aside from the FPL talk, which is not so much "so I have a keynote!" and
more
> to make sure that future FPLs also have the opportunity to set the tone and
> issue the "go forth and kick butt" vibe... unless the topic is highly
> pertinent to Fedora, keynotes could be boring/not time well-used (If I had a
> dollar for every boring keynote I have attended, it would be almost as much
> as the If I had a dollar for every irrelevant keynote I didn't attend pile
> of money.)
>
> It could also bring up logistics issues of "need to have separate
> theatre-style room available all mornings." Not sure if that's an issue or
> not offhand.
>
> That said: I think other cool keynote possibilities are:
>
> * People/Company using Fedora to make Real Downstream Product Things that are
> not ... RHEL (Arista Networks comes to mind with EOS)
> * Continuous Integration/Continuous Delivery/Deployment (or even more
> loosely, devops) topic - I can give a long list of names here. But the
> question here is - can they make it relevant to Fedora? Obviously it's a
> direction folks are talking about and I think it would be dandy to have an
> inspiring talk along the lines of of "look, end of rainbow! so pretty. we
> can get there!"
> * Sessions just expected to have asininely high participation could sub in.
Or from our upstreams - we talk a lot how we do upstream first but we do not
know much about upstreams and what they do/plan to do and it directly affects
Fedora. But for the most important ones, I'm not sure we can get people as
because of pretty tight coexistence with Guadec and I'll expect everyone is
going to be there :(
> Also: Instead of keynotes, could do a lightning-style session of "recap of
> everything yesterday" (this is similar to how ODS sums things up, so people
> get the gist of what's transpiring without having to be in all places at
> once) - 5m per team/group/session/whatever we decide. (ODS does it by
> project, the lead takes the responsibility to pull that stuff together each
> day, iirc.)
I really like this idea - better than keynote. Especially if you realize
when talking to people being at FUDCon that on that FUDCon we talked/decided
X and they are - "Really? Wow, I didn't know. When? Who?". So recap in the
morning for everyone to be on the same board and allow people to potentially
join the upcoming discussion - worth $1 billion!
This is a really intriguing idea, especially if Flock is meant to be a
conference where we can do bigger planning for Fedora's future and the
components needed to get things moving in that direction. It also
enforces some accountability on those discussions.
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9:53 a.m.
New subject: Flock theme [was Re: Keynotes]
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 05:02:07PM -0400, Robyn Bergeron wrote:
> Well keynotes are usually tied into the theme of a conference..
so suggesting
> the Red Hat CEO might not be good if that is not the theme. What is the
> theme of Flock? [And sorry if I am missing something obvious.]
I hope it is "get together and get things done/planned" :)
I haven't been involved in planning this, so apologies for commenting from
the sidelines, but I think we need to do a better job at marketing this as
something new, special, and exciting. I've heard comments along the lines of
"Oh, I thought it was just a new name for FUDCon" from multiple people, and
coupled with that on investigation, the idea that FUDCon was (or had
devolved into) a kind of LUG meeting. Not that there's anything wrong with
LUG meetings, but it's my understanding that the intention is bigger than
that, and we need to bring out that message.
The "about" page on the Flock to Fedora site says
For eight years, Fedora users and developers have gathered at an event named
for them, the Fedora Users and Developers conference (FUDCon). But we’ve
grown, and it’s time for a new approach: Flock.
Flock is a brand new conference where Fedora contributors can come
together, discuss new ideas, work to make those ideas a reality, and
continue to promote the core values of the Fedora community: Freedom,
Friends, Features, and First.
but the main page just says "Flock is a new Fedora conference that will be
held August 9-12, 2013 in Charleston, SC."
Can we bring more emphasis on _what_ is new?
Can we make a subset of the quote above into *the* theme:
Flock: Making new ideas into reality.
?
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1:13 p.m.
New subject: Flock theme [was Re: Keynotes]
Hey!
thank you for this feedback; I just add the text to the website, however, I
think we could change the banners and make them more attractive with some
more explicit content.
I would be happy to work in some ideas, however, I might not be that good
with the messages (my english is tricky sometimes) so if you could come up
with, lets say, 3 or 4 slogans; I could easily work on some banners to
place at the main slider.
thank you again!
2013/5/31 Matthew Miller <mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org>
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 05:02:07PM -0400, Robyn Bergeron wrote:
> > Well keynotes are usually tied into the theme of a conference.. so
suggesting
> > the Red Hat CEO might not be good if that is not the theme. What is the
> > theme of Flock? [And sorry if I am missing something obvious.]
> I hope it is "get together and get things done/planned" :)
I haven't been involved in planning this, so apologies for commenting from
the sidelines, but I think we need to do a better job at marketing this as
something new, special, and exciting. I've heard comments along the lines
of
"Oh, I thought it was just a new name for FUDCon" from multiple people, and
coupled with that on investigation, the idea that FUDCon was (or had
devolved into) a kind of LUG meeting. Not that there's anything wrong with
LUG meetings, but it's my understanding that the intention is bigger than
that, and we need to bring out that message.
The "about" page on the Flock to Fedora site says
For eight years, Fedora users and developers have gathered at an event
named
for them, the Fedora Users and Developers conference (FUDCon). But we’ve
grown, and it’s time for a new approach: Flock.
Flock is a brand new conference where Fedora contributors can come
together, discuss new ideas, work to make those ideas a reality, and
continue to promote the core values of the Fedora community: Freedom,
Friends, Features, and First.
but the main page just says "Flock is a new Fedora conference that will be
held August 9-12, 2013 in Charleston, SC."
Can we bring more emphasis on _what_ is new?
Can we make a subset of the quote above into *the* theme:
Flock: Making new ideas into reality.
?
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9:55 p.m.
On 05/30/2013 07:47 AM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
I really like this idea - better than keynote. Especially if you
realize
when talking to people being at FUDCon that on that FUDCon we talked/decided
X and they are - "Really? Wow, I didn't know. When? Who?". So recap in the
morning for everyone to be on the same board and allow people to potentially
join the upcoming discussion - worth $1 billion!
I've been brainstorming on this idea... here are some thoughts about it:
* We could have a 30 minute recap session first thing in the morning
(except for the first day).
* In order for that to happen, we'd need willing volunteers to gather
all that information together, summarize it into the recap, and then
present it the next day. Anyone doing that is probably not going to be
able to do much else.
* We would be able to keep morning keynotes.
Very interested in other thoughts here.
~tom
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10:40 a.m.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Callaway" <tcallawa(a)redhat.com>
To: "Planning discussion for Flock (Fedora Contributor Conference)"
<flock-planning(a)lists.fedoraproject.org>
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2013 7:55:36 PM
Subject: Re: Keynotes
On 05/30/2013 07:47 AM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
> I really like this idea - better than keynote. Especially if you realize
> when talking to people being at FUDCon that on that FUDCon we
> talked/decided
> X and they are - "Really? Wow, I didn't know. When? Who?". So recap in
the
> morning for everyone to be on the same board and allow people to
> potentially
> join the upcoming discussion - worth $1 billion!
I've been brainstorming on this idea... here are some thoughts about it:
* We could have a 30 minute recap session first thing in the morning
(except for the first day).
* In order for that to happen, we'd need willing volunteers to gather
all that information together, summarize it into the recap, and then
present it the next day. Anyone doing that is probably not going to be
able to do much else.
* We would be able to keep morning keynotes.
Very interested in other thoughts here.
So after doing a bit more research, here are my thoughts:
We have a number of "categories" - most of them are projects of some sort, some
with more levels of complication/detail to share than others, I suspect.
We might consider the following:
* Having a lead/owner for each track/category that has feedback into the schedule (likely
a bit in consensus with the folks on those teams/groups/SIGs)
* Trying to arrange those sessions maybe in blocks of 2 days (??? this gets murky here...)
- so that folks who are likely needing to do double duty in multiple groups aren't
missing half the things they are interested in, or can at least participate equally if
they overlap. ie: Docs/Trans probably wouldn't want to overlap, nor Ambassadors/Trans;
QA/releng/infra may need some major wrangling, etc.
* Having summary sessions in the evening or morning - perhaps rather than having the
"5 minute update" - give people 5-20 minutes (depending on group, how much they
expect to be covering in terms of "things everyone else should be aware of") to
basically cover:
** State of Team/Group/SIG
** Major topics covered during Flock
** Feedback/concerns
** What their roadmap for next 1, 2, 3, whatever they want to commit to in terms of
releases looks like. Basically: What have you decided to plan on?
I don't think this should be unduly terribly hard - this is what the folks in
openstack-land do - just *one* summary session. (The way they do it though is on the last
day, in each hour slot of time there is *one* session covering *one*
project's/team's summary session - but other regular sessions running in the same
time slot, just hopefully not horrifically overlapping).
I would suggest that each group have their own running etherpad(s) - so that the burden
isn't ridiculous for the track organizer/owner - we don't need people making
pretty slides all night long (or all day long) - just a basic recap of what went on, what
the state of the project is, etc.
I guess I haven't narrowed it down much - we could either (or both, even) do longer
recap sessions (which would be awesome for taping, BTW) - as well as mini-recaps in the
morning. Or we might just ask around which tracks expect that they'll have major
agreements/progress to be reporting out on that might want a longer slot to share info at
the end, and otherwise just do the mini-morning updates each day.
-r
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New subject: Flock theme [was Re: Keynotes]
On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 01:43:00PM -0430, María Leandro wrote:
2013/5/31 Matthew Miller <mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org>
> On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 05:02:07PM -0400, Robyn Bergeron wrote:
> > > Well keynotes are usually tied into the theme of a conference.. so
> suggesting
> > > the Red Hat CEO might not be good if that is not the theme. What is the
> > > theme of Flock? [And sorry if I am missing something obvious.]
> > I hope it is "get together and get things done/planned" :)
>
> I haven't been involved in planning this, so apologies for commenting from
> the sidelines, but I think we need to do a better job at marketing this as
> something new, special, and exciting. I've heard comments along the lines
> of
> "Oh, I thought it was just a new name for FUDCon" from multiple people,
and
> coupled with that on investigation, the idea that FUDCon was (or had
> devolved into) a kind of LUG meeting. Not that there's anything wrong with
> LUG meetings, but it's my understanding that the intention is bigger than
> that, and we need to bring out that message.
>
> The "about" page on the Flock to Fedora site says
>
> For eight years, Fedora users and developers have gathered at an event
> named
> for them, the Fedora Users and Developers conference (FUDCon). But we’ve
> grown, and it’s time for a new approach: Flock.
>
> Flock is a brand new conference where Fedora contributors can come
> together, discuss new ideas, work to make those ideas a reality, and
> continue to promote the core values of the Fedora community: Freedom,
> Friends, Features, and First.
>
> but the main page just says "Flock is a new Fedora conference that will be
> held August 9-12, 2013 in Charleston, SC."
>
> Can we bring more emphasis on _what_ is new?
>
> Can we make a subset of the quote above into *the* theme:
>
> Flock: Making new ideas into reality.
>
> ?
Hey!
thank you for this feedback; I just add the text to the website, however, I
think we could change the banners and make them more attractive with some
more explicit content.
I would be happy to work in some ideas, however, I might not be that good
with the messages (my english is tricky sometimes) so if you could come up
with, lets say, 3 or 4 slogans; I could easily work on some banners to
place at the main slider.
thank you again!
I agree that we want the text on the site to be as accurate as
possible. But I think the further point Matt was making is that it's
not clear what, exactly, is different about Flock yet. As someone who
is not keeping up daily with all Fedora activities these days, if
there's some major differences between Flock and FUDCon beyond the
name and the broader attendance, it's not yet clear to me.
There are many sessions, hackfests, workshops as we've seen in FUDCons
-- all of which is fantastic, and I'm really looking forward to quite
a few of them. But it also seems like there are ideas churning
around, as discussed in previous Fedora conferences such as FUDCon
Lawrence, such as whether the future Fedora of a couple years out
might look different from the Fedora of today.
Are those changes going to be part of the theme of Flock? And are
there special sessions for those sorts of topics?
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10:54 a.m.
----- Original Message -----
On 05/30/2013 07:47 AM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
> I really like this idea - better than keynote. Especially if you realize
> when talking to people being at FUDCon that on that FUDCon we
> talked/decided
> X and they are - "Really? Wow, I didn't know. When? Who?". So recap in
the
> morning for everyone to be on the same board and allow people to
> potentially
> join the upcoming discussion - worth $1 billion!
I've been brainstorming on this idea... here are some thoughts about it:
* We could have a 30 minute recap session first thing in the morning
(except for the first day).
* In order for that to happen, we'd need willing volunteers to gather
all that information together, summarize it into the recap, and then
present it the next day. Anyone doing that is probably not going to be
able to do much else.
Is it really necessary someone has to collect the information? Wouldn't
be easier to ask every team working on something to send one representative
with short one to five minutes long summary? If not, I'm interested to
help ;-).
Jaroslav
* We would be able to keep morning keynotes.
Very interested in other thoughts here.
~tom
==
Fedora Project
11:08 a.m.
New subject: Flock theme [was Re: Keynotes]
On 06/03/2013 11:48 AM, Paul W. Frields wrote:
I agree that we want the text on the site to be as accurate as
possible. But I think the further point Matt was making is that it's
not clear what, exactly, is different about Flock yet. As someone who
is not keeping up daily with all Fedora activities these days, if
there's some major differences between Flock and FUDCon beyond the
name and the broader attendance, it's not yet clear to me.
There are many sessions, hackfests, workshops as we've seen in FUDCons
-- all of which is fantastic, and I'm really looking forward to quite
a few of them. But it also seems like there are ideas churning
around, as discussed in previous Fedora conferences such as FUDCon
Lawrence, such as whether the future Fedora of a couple years out
might look different from the Fedora of today.
Are those changes going to be part of the theme of Flock? And are
there special sessions for those sorts of topics?
One of the initial ideas for Flock was that we would try to have a
conference dedicated to something broader than just Fedora... but we
ended up deciding to just focus on Fedora and its ecosystems for now.
For 2013, I think the key changes in Flock are size (bigger than ever
before) and format (a schedule planned and announced in advance).
I hope that people come away from Flock inspired and with projects
either ready to start or already deep into the efforts. I'm very happy
to see a lot of future thinking presentations on a number of topics,
since I firmly believe we need to start planning for our future and
making the changes necessary to keep Fedora vibrant, healthy, useful,
and relevant.
All of that said, at the end of the day:
* Flock is what the Fedora community makes it.
&&
* Flock is a work in progress. I know we will learn a lot of about it in
this first endeavor, and I'm confident we can fine tune and improve for
the next one.
We never defined a "theme" for this Flock. One of my concerns was that
if we did that, we'd limit the audience and the talks unnecessarily.
That said, we've made it very clear that Flock is a contributor
conference, not a user conference. That doesn't mean it isn't useful to
users, but our clear focus and preference is on contributors (current
and future). If I was to pull a theme out of midair it would be
something like:
Flock: Working together to build the future of Fedora
~tom
==
Fedora Project
11:09 a.m.
On 06/03/2013 11:54 AM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
----- Original Message -----
> On 05/30/2013 07:47 AM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
>> I really like this idea - better than keynote. Especially if you realize
>> when talking to people being at FUDCon that on that FUDCon we
>> talked/decided
>> X and they are - "Really? Wow, I didn't know. When? Who?". So recap
in the
>> morning for everyone to be on the same board and allow people to
>> potentially
>> join the upcoming discussion - worth $1 billion!
>
> I've been brainstorming on this idea... here are some thoughts about it:
>
> * We could have a 30 minute recap session first thing in the morning
> (except for the first day).
> * In order for that to happen, we'd need willing volunteers to gather
> all that information together, summarize it into the recap, and then
> present it the next day. Anyone doing that is probably not going to be
> able to do much else.
Is it really necessary someone has to collect the information? Wouldn't
be easier to ask every team working on something to send one representative
with short one to five minutes long summary? If not, I'm interested to
help ;-).
That could work, but it ignores the presentations. Who will gather up
the summarized notes from each talk? :)
~tom
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