Updated Flock 2016 Bid for Krakow Poland

[Brian Exelbierd]

Hello,

The bid for Krakow has been updated and is online at:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Flock2016-Krakow-proposal https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Flock2016-Krakow-proposal

Supplemental material, such as Catering menus and cost estimates can be found online at:

https://github.com/bexelbie/Flock_2016_bid_Krakow https://github.com/bexelbie/Flock_2016_bid_Krakow

regards,

bex

[Paul W. Frields]

On Sun, Jan 17, 2016 at 02:02:06PM +0100, Brian (bex) Exelbierd wrote:
> Hello,
>
> The bid for Krakow has been updated and is online at:
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Flock2016-Krakow-proposal https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Flock2016-Krakow-proposal
>
> Supplemental material, such as Catering menus and cost estimates can be found online at:
>
> https://github.com/bexelbie/Flock_2016_bid_Krakow https://github.com/bexelbie/Flock_2016_bid_Krakow

Great work on the wealth of info here, Brian.  The price per person
for coffee breaks, etc., is constant, and not dependent on the
attendance number, correct?  In other words, if we have 200 people
attend vs. 250, the price would still be the same per head?

[Jennifer Madriaga]

I'm liking these price points. Thanks for the research, Brian!

Jen Madriaga 
Events Specialist 
Red Hat, Inc. 
E-mail: [e-mail] 
Phone: [phone]

----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul W. Frields" 
To: [e-mail]
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2016 9:27:18 AM
Subject: Re: Updated Flock 2016 Bid for Krakow Poland

On Sun, Jan 17, 2016 at 02:02:06PM +0100, Brian (bex) Exelbierd wrote:
> Hello,
>
> The bid for Krakow has been updated and is online at:
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Flock2016-Krakow-proposal https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Flock2016-Krakow-proposal
>
> Supplemental material, such as Catering menus and cost estimates can be found online at:
>
> https://github.com/bexelbie/Flock_2016_bid_Krakow https://github.com/bexelbie/Flock_2016_bid_Krakow

Great work on the wealth of info here, Brian.  The price per person
for coffee breaks, etc., is constant, and not dependent on the
attendance number, correct?  In other words, if we have 200 people
attend vs. 250, the price would still be the same per head?

[Brian Exelbierd]

On 01/18/2016 03:27 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 17, 2016 at 02:02:06PM +0100, Brian (bex) Exelbierd wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > The bid for Krakow has been updated and is online at:
> >
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Flock2016-Krakow-proposal https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Flock2016-Krakow-proposal
> >
> > Supplemental material, such as Catering menus and cost estimates can be found online at:
> >
> > https://github.com/bexelbie/Flock_2016_bid_Krakow https://github.com/bexelbie/Flock_2016_bid_Krakow
>
> Great work on the wealth of info here, Brian.  The price per person
> for coffee breaks, etc., is constant, and not dependent on the
> attendance number, correct?  In other words, if we have 200 people
> attend vs. 250, the price would still be the same per head?

This is my understanding.  I would strongly encourage us to negotiate 
this price.  They have a minimum of 60, iirc.

regards,

bex

[Paul W. Frields]

On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 04:50:47PM +0100, Brian (bex) Exelbierd wrote:
> On 01/18/2016 03:27 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote:
> > On Sun, Jan 17, 2016 at 02:02:06PM +0100, Brian (bex) Exelbierd wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > The bid for Krakow has been updated and is online at:
> > >
> > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Flock2016-Krakow-proposal https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Flock2016-Krakow-proposal
> > >
> > > Supplemental material, such as Catering menus and cost estimates can be found online at:
> > >
> > > https://github.com/bexelbie/Flock_2016_bid_Krakow https://github.com/bexelbie/Flock_2016_bid_Krakow
> >
> > Great work on the wealth of info here, Brian.  The price per person
> > for coffee breaks, etc., is constant, and not dependent on the
> > attendance number, correct?  In other words, if we have 200 people
> > attend vs. 250, the price would still be the same per head?
>
> This is my understanding.  I would strongly encourage us to negotiate this
> price.  They have a minimum of 60, iirc.

Hi Bex,

Are the budget-owning people in the team agreed on a price target and
working with you (and indirectly the vendor) at this point?

I know a few people were going to be off to SCaLE so didn't want this
to get lost in the tumult.

[Jennifer Madriaga]

Hey Paul,

Bex and I were actually texting as I got off plane in LAX. Just want to let you know that he's still getting some last minute changes done, but we won't lose track!

Jen Madriaga 
Events Specialist 
Red Hat, Inc. 
E-mail: [e-mail] 
Phone: [phone]

----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul W. Frields" 
To: [e-mail]
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 3:52:09 PM
Subject: Re: Updated Flock 2016 Bid for Krakow Poland

On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 04:50:47PM +0100, Brian (bex) Exelbierd wrote:
> On 01/18/2016 03:27 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote:
> > On Sun, Jan 17, 2016 at 02:02:06PM +0100, Brian (bex) Exelbierd wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > The bid for Krakow has been updated and is online at:
> > >
> > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Flock2016-Krakow-proposal https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Flock2016-Krakow-proposal
> > >
> > > Supplemental material, such as Catering menus and cost estimates can be found online at:
> > >
> > > https://github.com/bexelbie/Flock_2016_bid_Krakow https://github.com/bexelbie/Flock_2016_bid_Krakow
> >
> > Great work on the wealth of info here, Brian.  The price per person
> > for coffee breaks, etc., is constant, and not dependent on the
> > attendance number, correct?  In other words, if we have 200 people
> > attend vs. 250, the price would still be the same per head?
>
> This is my understanding.  I would strongly encourage us to negotiate this
> price.  They have a minimum of 60, iirc.

Hi Bex,

Are the budget-owning people in the team agreed on a price target and
working with you (and indirectly the vendor) at this point?

I know a few people were going to be off to SCaLE so didn't want this
to get lost in the tumult.

[Paul W. Frields]

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 03:55:08PM -0500, Jennifer Madriaga wrote:
> Hey Paul,
>
> Bex and I were actually texting as I got off plane in LAX. Just want
> to let you know that he's still getting some last minute changes
> done, but we won't lose track!

You rock, Jen.  We're also working on the regcfp app, so it sounds
like everything's on track.

[Paul W. Frields]

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 05:10:21PM -0500, Paul W. Frields wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 03:55:08PM -0500, Jennifer Madriaga wrote:
> > Hey Paul,
> >
> > Bex and I were actually texting as I got off plane in LAX. Just want
> > to let you know that he's still getting some last minute changes
> > done, but we won't lose track!
>
> You rock, Jen.  We're also working on the regcfp app, so it sounds
> like everything's on track.

We are still cranking to be ready for a Friday announcement.  Is that
the date still planned?

[Remy DeCausemaker]

On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 5:25 PM, Paul W. Frields 
wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 05:10:21PM -0500, Paul W. Frields wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 03:55:08PM -0500, Jennifer Madriaga wrote:
> > > Hey Paul,
> > >
> > > Bex and I were actually texting as I got off plane in LAX. Just want
> > > to let you know that he's still getting some last minute changes
> > > done, but we won't lose track!
> >
> > You rock, Jen.  We're also working on the regcfp app, so it sounds
> > like everything's on track.
>
> We are still cranking to be ready for a Friday announcement.  Is that
> the date still planned?

Paul,

The Save-the-date announcement is drafted up on the commblog, ready to push
as soon as you folks tell us the ink is dry :)

Give the draft a once-over if you'd like, but otherwise, you can just give
us the greenlight and we'll push.
--RemyD.
> --
> Paul W. Frields                                http://paul.frields.org/
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>     The open source story continues to grow: http://opensource.com
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>
> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/[e-mail]...

[Brian Exelbierd]

How can I see this draft blog?

Thank you.

regards,

bex
> On Jan 27, 2016, at 3:03 AM, Remy DeCausemaker  wrote:
>
> On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 5:25 PM, Paul W. Frields <[e-mail] > wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 05:10:21PM -0500, Paul W. Frields wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 03:55:08PM -0500, Jennifer Madriaga wrote:
> > > Hey Paul,
> > >
> > > Bex and I were actually texting as I got off plane in LAX. Just want
> > > to let you know that he's still getting some last minute changes
> > > done, but we won't lose track!
> >
> > You rock, Jen.  We're also working on the regcfp app, so it sounds
> > like everything's on track.
>
> We are still cranking to be ready for a Friday announcement.  Is that
> the date still planned?
>
> Paul,
>
> The Save-the-date announcement is drafted up on the commblog, ready to push as soon as you folks tell us the ink is dry :)
>
> Give the draft a once-over if you'd like, but otherwise, you can just give us the greenlight and we'll push.
> --RemyD.
>
> --
> Paul W. Frields                                http://paul.frields.org/ http://paul.frields.org/
>   gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233  5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717
>   http://redhat.com/ http://redhat.com/   -  -  -  -   http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/
>     The open source story continues to grow: http://opensource.com http://opensource.com/
> _______________________________________________
> flock-planning mailing list
> [e-mail] 
> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/[e-mail]... http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/[e-mail]
>
> -- 
> Remy DeCausemaker
> Fedora Community Lead & Council
> <[e-mail] >
> https://whatcanidoforfedora.org https://whatcanidoforfedora.org/
> _______________________________________________
> flock-planning mailing list
> [e-mail] 
> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/[e-mail]... http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/[e-mail]

[Jennifer Madriaga]

Hey all,

I think we are far enough along where we can probably announce. Are we missing anything?

Jen Madriaga 
Events Specialist 
Red Hat, Inc. 
E-mail: [e-mail] 
Phone: [phone]

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian (bex) Exelbierd" 
To: "Planning discussion for Flock (Fedora Contributor Conference)" 
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 3:52:19 PM
Subject: Re: Updated Flock 2016 Bid for Krakow Poland

How can I see this draft blog?

Thank you.

regards,

bex

On Jan 27, 2016, at 3:03 AM, Remy DeCausemaker < [e-mail] > wrote:

On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 5:25 PM, Paul W. Frields < [e-mail] > wrote:

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 05:10:21PM -0500, Paul W. Frields wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 03:55:08PM -0500, Jennifer Madriaga wrote:
> > Hey Paul,
> >
> > Bex and I were actually texting as I got off plane in LAX. Just want 
> > to let you know that he's still getting some last minute changes 
> > done, but we won't lose track!
>
> You rock, Jen. We're also working on the regcfp app, so it sounds 
> like everything's on track.

We are still cranking to be ready for a Friday announcement. Is that 
the date still planned?

Paul,

The Save-the-date announcement is drafted up on the commblog, ready to push as soon as you folks tell us the ink is dry :)

Give the draft a once-over if you'd like, but otherwise, you can just give us the greenlight and we'll push. 
--RemyD.

[Paul W. Frields]

On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 03:55:40PM -0500, Jennifer Madriaga wrote:
> Hey all,
>
> I think we are far enough along where we can probably announce. Are we missing anything?

I noted a few things (not blockers) on the list but haven't seen
anything further.

Since no one has set this up as a firm date/time, and we previously
agreed on Friday Jan-29, I'm going to work with Justin, Patrick, and
others to have the announcement go ~10am EST (1500 UTC) tomorrow,
Friday Jan-29.  The website will be up at that point, and assuming the
registration app is ready (which right now it looks to be) and Patrick
is happy with it, we'll have links ready for people to register and
submit talks.

[Jennifer Madriaga]

This should be good. Contract is signed!

Jen Madriaga 
Events Specialist 
Red Hat, Inc. 
E-mail: [e-mail] 
Phone: [phone]

----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul W. Frields" 
To: [e-mail]
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 2:29:00 PM
Subject: Re: Updated Flock 2016 Bid for Krakow Poland

On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 03:55:40PM -0500, Jennifer Madriaga wrote:
> Hey all,
>
> I think we are far enough along where we can probably announce. Are we missing anything?

I noted a few things (not blockers) on the list but haven't seen
anything further.

Since no one has set this up as a firm date/time, and we previously
agreed on Friday Jan-29, I'm going to work with Justin, Patrick, and
others to have the announcement go ~10am EST (1500 UTC) tomorrow,
Friday Jan-29.  The website will be up at that point, and assuming the
registration app is ready (which right now it looks to be) and Patrick
is happy with it, we'll have links ready for people to register and
submit talks.

[Paul W. Frields]

Fantastic! With the invaluable help of Justin Flory, Robert Mayr, and
Patrick Uiterwijk, the websites will be live in just a few minutes,
with registration and talk submissions open.

There are announcements scheduled for 1500 UTC posting on both Fedora
Magazine and the Comm-ops blog.

Paul
(headed off to PTO once everything looks good)

On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 05:44:15AM -0500, Jennifer Madriaga wrote:
> This should be good. Contract is signed!
>
> Jen Madriaga 
> Events Specialist 
> Red Hat, Inc. 
> E-mail: [e-mail] 
> Phone: [phone]
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Paul W. Frields" 
> To: [e-mail]
> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 2:29:00 PM
> Subject: Re: Updated Flock 2016 Bid for Krakow Poland
>
> On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 03:55:40PM -0500, Jennifer Madriaga wrote:
> > Hey all,
> >
> > I think we are far enough along where we can probably announce. Are we missing anything?
>
> I noted a few things (not blockers) on the list but haven't seen
> anything further.
>
> Since no one has set this up as a firm date/time, and we previously
> agreed on Friday Jan-29, I'm going to work with Justin, Patrick, and
> others to have the announcement go ~10am EST (1500 UTC) tomorrow,
> Friday Jan-29.  The website will be up at that point, and assuming the
> registration app is ready (which right now it looks to be) and Patrick
> is happy with it, we'll have links ready for people to register and
> submit talks.

[Remy DeCausemaker]

On Jan 27, 2016 15:52, "Brian (bex) Exelbierd"  wrote:
> How can I see this draft blog?
>
> Thank you.
>
> regards,
>
> bex

Bex,

Log into http://communityblog.fedoraproject.org, and check in the drafts.

There is a log in link on the front page.

HTH,
--RemyD.
> > On Jan 27, 2016, at 3:03 AM, Remy DeCausemaker

wrote:
> > On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 5:25 PM, Paul W. Frields <[e-mail]
>
> wrote:
> > > On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 05:10:21PM -0500, Paul W. Frields wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 03:55:08PM -0500, Jennifer Madriaga wrote:
> > > > > Hey Paul,
> > > > >
> > > > > Bex and I were actually texting as I got off plane in LAX. Just want
> > > > > to let you know that he's still getting some last minute changes
> > > > > done, but we won't lose track!
> > > >
> > > > You rock, Jen.  We're also working on the regcfp app, so it sounds
> > > > like everything's on track.
> > >
> > > We are still cranking to be ready for a Friday announcement.  Is that
> > > the date still planned?
> >
> > Paul,
> >
> > The Save-the-date announcement is drafted up on the commblog, ready to

push as soon as you folks tell us the ink is dry :)
> > Give the draft a once-over if you'd like, but otherwise, you can just

give us the greenlight and we'll push.
> > --RemyD.
> > > --
> > > Paul W. Frields                                http://paul.frields.org/
> > >   gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233  5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717
> > >   http://redhat.com/   -  -  -  -   http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/
> > >     The open source story continues to grow: http://opensource.com
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > flock-planning mailing list
> > > [e-mail]

http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/[e-mail]...
> > --
> > Remy DeCausemaker
> > Fedora Community Lead & Council
> >
> > https://whatcanidoforfedora.org
> > _______________________________________________
> > flock-planning mailing list
> > [e-mail]

http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/[e-mail]...
> flock-planning mailing list
> [e-mail]

http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/[e-mail]...
>

[Josh Boyer]

On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 4:17 PM, Remy DeCausemaker  wrote:
> On Jan 27, 2016 15:52, "Brian (bex) Exelbierd"  wrote:
> > How can I see this draft blog?
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > regards,
> >
> > bex
>
> Bex,
>
> Log into http://communityblog.fedoraproject.org, and check in the drafts.

I see it in pending, however there is no "view" link to actually read the post.

josh

[Paul W. Frields]

On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 04:29:30PM -0500, Josh Boyer wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 4:17 PM, Remy DeCausemaker  wrote:
> > On Jan 27, 2016 15:52, "Brian (bex) Exelbierd"  wrote:
> > > How can I see this draft blog?
> > >
> > > Thank you.
> > >
> > > regards,
> > >
> > > bex
> >
> > Bex,
> >
> > Log into http://communityblog.fedoraproject.org, and check in the drafts.
>
> I see it in pending, however there is no "view" link to actually read the post.

I can see this link as "Preview":
https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/?p=921&preview=true

[Parag Nemade]

Hi,

On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 9:12 PM, Paul W. Frields  wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 04:29:30PM -0500, Josh Boyer wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 4:17 PM, Remy DeCausemaker  wrote:
> > > On Jan 27, 2016 15:52, "Brian (bex) Exelbierd"  wrote:
> > > > How can I see this draft blog?
> > > >
> > > > Thank you.
> > > >
> > > > regards,
> > > >
> > > > bex
> > >
> > > Bex,
> > >
> > > Log into http://communityblog.fedoraproject.org, and check in the drafts.
> >
> > I see it in pending, however there is no "view" link to actually read the post.
>
> I can see this link as "Preview":
> https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/?p=921&preview=true

I get 404 error message " It seems like you have tried to open a page
that doesn't exist. It could have been deleted, moved, or it never
existed at all. You are welcome to search for what you are looking for
with the form below."

I can't find a way to read that post. All I see its listed under "Pending".

Regards,
Parag.

[Josh Boyer]

On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 10:46 AM, Parag Nemade  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 9:12 PM, Paul W. Frields  wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 04:29:30PM -0500, Josh Boyer wrote:
> > > On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 4:17 PM, Remy DeCausemaker  wrote:
> > > > On Jan 27, 2016 15:52, "Brian (bex) Exelbierd"  wrote:
> > > > > How can I see this draft blog?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you.
> > > > >
> > > > > regards,
> > > > >
> > > > > bex
> > > >
> > > > Bex,
> > > >
> > > > Log into http://communityblog.fedoraproject.org, and check in the drafts.
> > >
> > > I see it in pending, however there is no "view" link to actually read the post.
> >
> > I can see this link as "Preview":
> > https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/?p=921&preview=true
>
> I get 404 error message " It seems like you have tried to open a page
> that doesn't exist. It could have been deleted, moved, or it never
> existed at all. You are welcome to search for what you are looking for
> with the form below."
>
> I can't find a way to read that post. All I see its listed under "Pending".

Same for me.  Paul must have super powers.

I am not a fan of Wordpress.

josh

[Paul W. Frields]

On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 10:55:04AM -0500, Josh Boyer wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 10:46 AM, Parag Nemade  wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 9:12 PM, Paul W. Frields  wrote:
> > > On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 04:29:30PM -0500, Josh Boyer wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 4:17 PM, Remy DeCausemaker  wrote:
> > > > > On Jan 27, 2016 15:52, "Brian (bex) Exelbierd"  wrote:
> > > > > > How can I see this draft blog?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thank you.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > regards,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > bex
> > > > >
> > > > > Bex,
> > > > >
> > > > > Log into http://communityblog.fedoraproject.org, and check in the drafts.
> > > >
> > > > I see it in pending, however there is no "view" link to actually read the post.
> > >
> > > I can see this link as "Preview":
> > > https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/?p=921&preview=true
> >
> > I get 404 error message " It seems like you have tried to open a page
> > that doesn't exist. It could have been deleted, moved, or it never
> > existed at all. You are welcome to search for what you are looking for
> > with the form below."
> >
> > I can't find a way to read that post. All I see its listed under "Pending".
>
> Same for me.  Paul must have super powers.
>
> I am not a fan of Wordpress.

WordPress is intended to be a publishing platform, not a collaboration
one, thus the permissions thing here.  Their "preview" function is
tied up with their "edit" permissions.  I just copied the content
here:

http://piratepad.net/flock-ann-2016

[Josh Boyer]

On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 1:27 PM, Paul W. Frields  wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 10:55:04AM -0500, Josh Boyer wrote:
> > On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 10:46 AM, Parag Nemade  wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 9:12 PM, Paul W. Frields  wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 04:29:30PM -0500, Josh Boyer wrote:
> > > > > On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 4:17 PM, Remy DeCausemaker  wrote:
> > > > > > On Jan 27, 2016 15:52, "Brian (bex) Exelbierd"  wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > How can I see this draft blog?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thank you.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > regards,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > bex
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Bex,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Log into http://communityblog.fedoraproject.org, and check in the drafts.
> > > > >
> > > > > I see it in pending, however there is no "view" link to actually read the post.
> > > >
> > > > I can see this link as "Preview":
> > > > https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/?p=921&preview=true
> > >
> > > I get 404 error message " It seems like you have tried to open a page
> > > that doesn't exist. It could have been deleted, moved, or it never
> > > existed at all. You are welcome to search for what you are looking for
> > > with the form below."
> > >
> > > I can't find a way to read that post. All I see its listed under "Pending".
> >
> > Same for me.  Paul must have super powers.
> >
> > I am not a fan of Wordpress.
>
> WordPress is intended to be a publishing platform, not a collaboration
> one, thus the permissions thing here.  Their "preview" function is

I know.  My opinion on it remains unchanged :P.
> tied up with their "edit" permissions.  I just copied the content
> here:
>
> http://piratepad.net/flock-ann-2016

Looks great.

josh

[Paul W. Frields]

On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 09:03:12PM -0500, Remy DeCausemaker wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 5:25 PM, Paul W. Frields 
> wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 05:10:21PM -0500, Paul W. Frields wrote:
> > > On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 03:55:08PM -0500, Jennifer Madriaga wrote:
> > > > Hey Paul,
> > > >
> > > > Bex and I were actually texting as I got off plane in LAX. Just want
> > > > to let you know that he's still getting some last minute changes
> > > > done, but we won't lose track!
> > >
> > > You rock, Jen.  We're also working on the regcfp app, so it sounds
> > > like everything's on track.
> >
> > We are still cranking to be ready for a Friday announcement.  Is that
> > the date still planned?
>
> Paul,
>
> The Save-the-date announcement is drafted up on the commblog, ready to push
> as soon as you folks tell us the ink is dry :)
>
> Give the draft a once-over if you'd like, but otherwise, you can just give
> us the greenlight and we'll push.

There are still a few details we need for the flocktofedora.org
website:

* Booking code for hotel (presumably we'll get this upon a signed contract)
* Sponsorship -- need a set of levels (if we want these as guides),
  and a prospectus or at least contact instructions.

None of these block the site update that includes venue/date info.
But we need these really soon, or else it will be an even bigger time
crunch down the line.

[Tom Callaway]

On 01/28/2016 08:56 AM, Paul W. Frields wrote:
> Sponsorship -- need a set of levels (if we want these as guides),
> and a prospectus or at least contact instructions.

Since I've done this before, I'll volunteer to coordinate sponsorship
again this year, unless there are any objections.

~tom

==
Red Hat

[Jennifer Madriaga]

Sounds awesome, Tom. Let me know if you need any assistance.

Jen Madriaga 
Events Specialist 
Red Hat, Inc. 
E-mail: [e-mail] 
Phone: [phone]

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Callaway" 
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Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 3:07:25 PM
Subject: Re: Updated Flock 2016 Bid for Krakow Poland

On 01/28/2016 08:56 AM, Paul W. Frields wrote:
> Sponsorship -- need a set of levels (if we want these as guides),
> and a prospectus or at least contact instructions.

Since I've done this before, I'll volunteer to coordinate sponsorship
again this year, unless there are any objections.

~tom

==
Red Hat
_______________________________________________
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[e-mail]
http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/[e-mail]...

[Paul W. Frields]

On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 03:07:25PM -0500, Tom Callaway wrote:
> On 01/28/2016 08:56 AM, Paul W. Frields wrote:
> > Sponsorship -- need a set of levels (if we want these as guides),
> > and a prospectus or at least contact instructions.
>
> Since I've done this before, I'll volunteer to coordinate sponsorship
> again this year, unless there are any objections.

None here, but I would also be happy to help get content onto the
website.  We have a page dedicated for sponsor info.

In fact, I was debating putting Red Hat up there to start, but I
realized that I didn't have a classification for Shadowman (premier?
platinum? overall moneymaker-shaker?).

[Tom Callaway]

On 01/29/2016 09:19 AM, Paul W. Frields wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 03:07:25PM -0500, Tom Callaway wrote:
> > On 01/28/2016 08:56 AM, Paul W. Frields wrote:
> > > Sponsorship -- need a set of levels (if we want these as guides),
> > > and a prospectus or at least contact instructions.
> >
> > Since I've done this before, I'll volunteer to coordinate sponsorship
> > again this year, unless there are any objections.
>
> None here, but I would also be happy to help get content onto the
> website.  We have a page dedicated for sponsor info.

Okay. I've finished the 2016 prospectus (attached). Let me know what you
need to put on the website.
> In fact, I was debating putting Red Hat up there to start, but I
> realized that I didn't have a classification for Shadowman (premier?
> platinum? overall moneymaker-shaker?).

We've always called Red Hat platinum.

~tom

==
Red Hat

[Matthew Miller]

On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 03:36:24PM -0500, Tom Callaway wrote:
> > In fact, I was debating putting Red Hat up there to start, but I
> > realized that I didn't have a classification for Shadowman (premier?
> > platinum? overall moneymaker-shaker?).
>
> We've always called Red Hat platinum.

I have no problem with calling anyone else who wants to match that
funding platinum as well. :)

[Paul W. Frields]

On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 03:36:24PM -0500, Tom Callaway wrote:
> On 01/29/2016 09:19 AM, Paul W. Frields wrote:
> > On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 03:07:25PM -0500, Tom Callaway wrote:
> > > On 01/28/2016 08:56 AM, Paul W. Frields wrote:
> > > > Sponsorship -- need a set of levels (if we want these as guides),
> > > > and a prospectus or at least contact instructions.
> > >
> > > Since I've done this before, I'll volunteer to coordinate sponsorship
> > > again this year, unless there are any objections.
> >
> > None here, but I would also be happy to help get content onto the
> > website.  We have a page dedicated for sponsor info.
>
> Okay. I've finished the 2016 prospectus (attached). Let me know what you
> need to put on the website.

Would it make sense to have some information about how Fedora benefits
the wider community, and people who draw from that?  ISTM that might
be more attractive to potential sponsors ("what have you done for me
lately?").  This might work in place of the section of details for
content at Flock, after "...in person."

Some possible text: "The Fedora Project works vigorously with upstream
projects to fix bugs and enhance the state of their software.  This
benefits downstream consumers and the entire open source community
beyond just Fedora."  What do you think?
> > In fact, I was debating putting Red Hat up there to start, but I
> > realized that I didn't have a classification for Shadowman (premier?
> > platinum? overall moneymaker-shaker?).
>
> We've always called Red Hat platinum.

OK, I'll put the logo up there with that label.  As we add other
sponsors it will be easy to do the same, if you (or whoever books a
sponsor) gets in touch.

[Joe Brockmeier]

On 02/01/2016 03:08 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote:
> Some possible text: "The Fedora Project works vigorously with upstream
> projects to fix bugs and enhance the state of their software.  This
> benefits downstream consumers and the entire open source community
> beyond just Fedora."  What do you think?

It's a personal tic, but I like to avoid calling people "consumers."
What about, "The Fedora Project works closely with upstream projects to
fix bugs, add features, and generally improve the state of software it
depends on. This benefits not just Fedora users, but all users of the
software and the wider open source community."

Best,

jzb

[Haïkel]

2016-02-04 10:53 GMT+01:00 Joe Brockmeier :
> On 02/01/2016 03:08 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote:
> > Some possible text: "The Fedora Project works vigorously with upstream
> > projects to fix bugs and enhance the state of their software.  This
> > benefits downstream consumers and the entire open source community
> > beyond just Fedora."  What do you think?
>
> It's a personal tic, but I like to avoid calling people "consumers."
> What about, "The Fedora Project works closely with upstream projects to
> fix bugs, add features, and generally improve the state of software it
> depends on. This benefits not just Fedora users, but all users of the
> software and the wider open source community."
>
> Best,
>
> jzb

+1 for Joe's change.
Excellent catch, in French, we have this quote "dans consommateur, il
y a con" which could be nicely translated to "When someone says
consumer, I hear they're trying to con me".

H.
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[Paul W. Frields]

On Thu, Feb 04, 2016 at 11:10:34AM +0100, Haïkel wrote:
> 2016-02-04 10:53 GMT+01:00 Joe Brockmeier :
> > On 02/01/2016 03:08 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote:
> > > Some possible text: "The Fedora Project works vigorously with upstream
> > > projects to fix bugs and enhance the state of their software.  This
> > > benefits downstream consumers and the entire open source community
> > > beyond just Fedora."  What do you think?
> >
> > It's a personal tic, but I like to avoid calling people "consumers."
> > What about, "The Fedora Project works closely with upstream projects to
> > fix bugs, add features, and generally improve the state of software it
> > depends on. This benefits not just Fedora users, but all users of the
> > software and the wider open source community."
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > jzb
>
> +1 for Joe's change.
> Excellent catch, in French, we have this quote "dans consommateur, il
> y a con" which could be nicely translated to "When someone says
> consumer, I hear they're trying to con me".

+1 here too!

[Stephen John Smoogen]

On 4 February 2016 at 02:53, Joe Brockmeier  wrote:
> On 02/01/2016 03:08 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote:
> > Some possible text: "The Fedora Project works vigorously with upstream
> > projects to fix bugs and enhance the state of their software.  This
> > benefits downstream consumers and the entire open source community
> > beyond just Fedora."  What do you think?
>
> It's a personal tic, but I like to avoid calling people "consumers."
> What about, "The Fedora Project works closely with upstream projects to
> fix bugs, add features, and generally improve the state of software it
> depends on. This benefits not just Fedora users, but all users of the
> software and the wider open source community."

Is there a better word than "user".  The only other industry which has
"users" is the illegal drug market and well we all know how well they
are treated by their pushers. I thought that consumer gave them some
respect over being a slab of meat who I pushed whatever I wanted onto
them. It also defined the relationship of those who are just wanting a
product to work but aren't currently interested in or able to
contributing to the product and community.
> Best,
> jzb
>
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> [e-mail] | http://community.redhat.com/
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[Joe Brockmeier]

On 02/04/2016 06:47 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
> Is there a better word than "user".  The only other industry which has
> "users" is the illegal drug market and well we all know how well they
> are treated by their pushers. I thought that consumer gave them some
> respect over being a slab of meat who I pushed whatever I wanted onto
> them. It also defined the relationship of those who are just wanting a
> product to work but aren't currently interested in or able to
> contributing to the product and community.

I try to use "audience" or something like that, but user is generally
understood to be a neutral term for software/hardware.

Best,

jzb

[Matthew Miller]

On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 03:07:25PM -0500, Tom Callaway wrote:
> > Sponsorship -- need a set of levels (if we want these as guides),
> > and a prospectus or at least contact instructions.
>
> Since I've done this before, I'll volunteer to coordinate sponsorship
> again this year, unless there are any objections.

No objection. In fact, what's the opposite of an objection? "Thanks",
I suppose. :)