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[Bug 448289] [ro] Fonts in distribution contains incorrect glyphs for Romanian language

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Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: [ro] Fonts in distribution contains incorrect glyphs for Romanian language https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=448289 nicolas.mailhot(a)laposte.net changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |CLOSED Resolution| |INSUFFICIENT_DATA ------- Additional Comments From nicolas.mailhot(a)laposte.net 2008-05-28 18:34 EST ------- (In reply to comment #8) > As far as I know, the keyboard maps for Romanian were recently fixed and should > land in Fedora from upstream. Please see > http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13277 > > In the meantime, *until* the kbd fix shows up, The kbd fix probably does not matter. IIRC the plan for F10 is to kill kbd and generate console layouts from xkb-config data > - [fonts] make sure that all Unicode fonts that can be used for Romanian > language (basically, the Latin2 subsets) contain the comma-below glyphs. (For > me, it is not so obvious *which font packages are involved*, otherwise I'll open bugs directly on them); It's pretty useless to open bugs on fonts. We've spent a lot of energy kicking non-modifiable fonts from Fedora and getting recent font tools such as fontforge in. So interested people should just submit fixed fonts upstream instead of waiting for someone else to fix them. Identifying fonts can be done this way http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Fonts/QA#Identifying_fonts > - [anaconda] *after* the font issue is fixed, anaconda should set an appropriate default font for Romanian, As other explained Fedora default X11 fonts are already fine. So there is nothing to do X11-side. Terminal-side someone should just fix latarcyrheb which is the usual default everyone gets. Then no special selection logic will be needed at all. > So I'm changing this to distribution again. This is pretty useless. Fix the problems one by one or at least report them one-by-one (*upstream*). Multi-issue "distribution" bugs just go nowhere. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.

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[Bug 448289] [ro] Fonts in distribution contains incorrect glyphs for Romanian language

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Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: [ro] Fonts in distribution contains incorrect glyphs for Romanian language https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=448289 razvan.sandu(a)mobexpert.ro changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|vcrhonek(a)redhat.com |notting(a)redhat.com -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.

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[Bug 448289] [ro] Fonts in distribution contains incorrect glyphs for Romanian language

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Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: [ro] Fonts in distribution contains incorrect glyphs for Romanian language https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=448289 razvan.sandu(a)mobexpert.ro changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- OtherBugsDependingO| |337271 nThis| | -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.

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[Bug 448289] [ro] Fonts in distribution contains incorrect glyphs for Romanian language

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Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: [ro] Fonts in distribution contains incorrect glyphs for Romanian language https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=448289 razvan.sandu(a)mobexpert.ro changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Component|kbd |distribution ------- Additional Comments From razvan.sandu(a)mobexpert.ro 2008-05-28 16:56 EST ------- Regarding comment #4: Bill, I don't think this historical bug should be assigned to kbd, since it will go to a dead end - probably be forgotten. Here's why: As far as I know, the keyboard maps for Romanian were recently fixed and should land in Fedora from upstream. Please see http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13277 In the meantime, *until* the kbd fix shows up, we need to fix other aspects, involving more than one component of the Fedora distro - in this logical order: - [fonts] make sure that all Unicode fonts that can be used for Romanian language (basically, the Latin2 subsets) contain the comma-below glyphs. (For me, it is not so obvious *which font packages are involved*, otherwise I'll open bugs directly on them); - [anaconda] *after* the font issue is fixed, anaconda should set an appropriate default font for Romanian, when Romanian language is selected during install. For the moment, the Terminus font can be used (the terminus-font-console and terminus-font-x11 packages); - [system-config-language] *after* the font issue is fixed, s-c-l should set an appropriate default font for Romanian, when Romanian language is selected as system language. For the moment, the Terminus font can be used (the terminus-font-console and terminus-font-x11 packages); - [system-config-keyboard] *after* the font and the kbd issues are fixed, s-c-k should present the user the opportunity to choose from *at least two* layouts for Romanian keyboard, corresponding to the Primary and the Secondary arrangements in the national standard (Secondary being the default). Please see the separate bug #337271 . (Hint: These two keyboard arrangements correspond to Romanian [Programmers] (Secondary) and Romanian [Standard] in Windows Vista). So I'm changing this to distribution again. Thanks A LOT, Răzvan -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.

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[Bug 448289] [ro] Fonts in distribution contains incorrect glyphs for Romanian language

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Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: [ro] Fonts in distribution contains incorrect glyphs for Romanian language https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=448289 ------- Additional Comments From alexxed(a)gmail.com 2008-05-28 15:32 EST ------- (In reply to comment #6) > (In reply to comment #5) > > The question I have, is: do Romanian users expect that when they use > > U+015E-U+015F and U+0162-U+0163, they get comma below instead of cedilla? > > No, they don't expect this behaviour. > Here is an image with all the fonts available in Fedora that provide the cedilla > characters Sorry, I meant the comma characters. The s and t with cedilla is availalbe in almost any font. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.

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[Bug 448289] [ro] Fonts in distribution contains incorrect glyphs for Romanian language

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Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: [ro] Fonts in distribution contains incorrect glyphs for Romanian language https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=448289 ------- Additional Comments From alexxed(a)gmail.com 2008-05-28 15:31 EST ------- (In reply to comment #5) > The question I have, is: do Romanian users expect that when they use > U+015E-U+015F and U+0162-U+0163, they get comma below instead of cedilla? No, they don't expect this behaviour. Here is an image with all the fonts available in Fedora that provide the cedilla characters: http://www.alexxed.com/node/78 . The count is 4, that is the problem, and this bug should be filed agains each font that doesn't have those glyphs imho. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.

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[pkgdb] dejavu-lgc-fonts ownership updated

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Package dejavu-lgc-fonts in Fedora devel was orphaned by Toshio くらとみ (toshio) To make changes to this package see: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/dejavu-lgc-fonts

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[pkgdb] dejavu-lgc-fonts ownership updated

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Package dejavu-lgc-fonts in Fedora 9 was orphaned by Toshio くらとみ (toshio) To make changes to this package see: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/dejavu-lgc-fonts

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[Bug 448289] [ro] Fonts in distribution contains incorrect glyphs for Romanian language

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Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: [ro] Fonts in distribution contains incorrect glyphs for Romanian language https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=448289 ------- Additional Comments From bl.bugs(a)gmail.com 2008-05-28 14:44 EST ------- The default font (DejaVu) currently has the correct glyphs. If you'd use the good glyphs in your pdf you'd see most of the fonts with the comma below since the majority of the fonts you have in that pdf also don't have the cedilla glyphs either and they're falling back on DejaVu. The question I have, is: do Romanian users expect that when they use U+015E-U+015F and U+0162-U+0163, they get comma below instead of cedilla? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.

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[Bug 448289] [ro] Fonts in distribution contains incorrect glyphs for Romanian language

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Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: [ro] Fonts in distribution contains incorrect glyphs for Romanian language https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=448289 notting(a)redhat.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|notting(a)redhat.com |vcrhonek(a)redhat.com Component|distribution |kbd QAContact|notting(a)redhat.com |extras-qa(a)fedoraproject.org ------- Additional Comments From notting(a)redhat.com 2008-05-28 14:11 EST ------- Assigning to kbd, then. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.

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