[Bug 606217] New: Eccentric glyph for the lowercase Greek gamma letter (=?UTF-8?Q?=CE=B3?=)

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Summary: Eccentric glyph for the lowercase Greek gamma letter (γ)

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Summary: Eccentric glyph for the lowercase Greek gamma letter
                    (γ)
           Product: Fedora
           Version: rawhide
          Platform: All
        OS/Version: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: medium
          Priority: low
         Component: liberation-fonts
        AssignedTo: [e-mail]
        ReportedBy: [e-mail]
         QAContact: [e-mail]
                CC: [e-mail], [e-mail],
                    [e-mail],
                    [e-mail]
    Classification: Fedora

Description of problem:

The liberation fonts have a strange glyph for the lowercase Greek gamma letter
whenever hinting is on. The hinting makes the glyph look similar to the 'y'
letter (the  bottom part tends towards left).

This looks weird and is unique on this font family, AFAIK.

[Bug 606217] Eccentric glyph for the lowercase Greek gamma letter (=?UTF-8?Q?=CE=B3?=)

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--- Comment #1 from James Cloos  2010-06-27 14:04:35 EDT ---
This one got me curious.

It looks like only the sans and mono faces have that lean; the descender
remains vertical in Serif-Regular and Serif-Bold and has the same slope in
Italic and BoldItalic as those fonts’ italic angle, AFAICT at screen
resolution.

Looking at the »γ« glyph in the Regular faces in fontforge shows that the slant
is intentional to the design; the descender is an extension on the right
stroke.

I took a look at several fonts and that does seem to be an unique design
decision.  Most other fonts tend to either extend to left stroke or make the
descender an overlapping extension of both strokes.

An interesting issue, indeed!

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--- Comment #2 from Fedora Admin XMLRPC Client  2010-07-14 20:22:10 EDT ---
This package has changed ownership in the Fedora Package Database.  Reassigning
to the new owner of this component.

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--- Comment #3 from Pravin Satpute  2010-07-15 02:45:20 EDT ---
(In reply to comment #0)
> Description of problem:
>
> The liberation fonts have a strange glyph for the lowercase Greek gamma letter
> whenever hinting is on. The hinting makes the glyph look similar to the 'y'
> letter (the  bottom part tends towards left).

can you update bug with the lowercase Greek gamma characters Unicode points?

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--- Comment #4 from [e-mail] 2010-07-16 02:32:33 EDT ---
(In reply to comment #3)
> can you update bug with the lowercase Greek gamma characters Unicode points?

Not sure this is what you want, the character in question is U+03B3.
> From http://unicode.org/charts/PDF/U0370.pdf :

-------------------------------------
03B3 γ GREEK SMALL LETTER GAMMA
→ 0263 ɣ  latin small letter gamma   (latin version?)
→ 213D γ  double-struck small gamma  (unknown to me - symbol?)
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--- Comment #6 from Akira TAGOH  2011-11-22 06:04:04 EST ---
Any updates on this?

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--- Comment #7 from Akira TAGOH  2011-12-05 06:14:25 EST ---
Pravin, ping?

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--- Comment #8 from Pravin Satpute  2011-12-07 06:03:36 EST ---
moving to f16, will loot at this soon

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--- Comment #9 from Pravin Satpute  ---
 Can you please check, is this issue still happening with Liberation 2.00.1?

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--- Comment #10 from [e-mail] ---
Yes, nothing's changed.

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--- Comment #12 from pav  ---
Hi. Is this likely to be fixed or not so much?

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--- Comment #13 from Pravin Satpute  ---
Not very soonish. There is plan to work on Liberation fonts hinting stuff.
Meanwhile if you have any patch, i can definitely help in reviewing and
committing in upstream.

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