[Bug 1260061] New: fallbacks for TmsRmn and Helv

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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1260061

Bug ID: 1260061
           Summary: fallbacks for TmsRmn and Helv
           Product: Fedora
           Version: rawhide
         Component: fontconfig
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          Reporter: [e-mail]
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   External Bug ID: Document Foundation 91004
   External Bug ID: Document Foundation 91004

There are MSOffice documents that refer to "TmsRmn" and "Helv" fonts, and
fontconfig doesn't suggest suitable replacements.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/82860

"TmsRmn and Helv ... We still have the exact same fonts, but now under the
names MS Sans Serif and MS Serif"

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/68536

"Font Family     Bitstream    Canon    Adobe        HP
-----------     ---------    -----    -----        --

Swiss (Helv)    Swiss        Swiss    Helvetica    Universe
Roman (Tms Rmn) Dutch        Dutch    Times Roman  CG Times"

So "Helv" == "MS Serif" and both could be added as part of the Helvetica group
of mappings I guess and "Tms Rmn" == "MS Sans Serif" and both are presumably
then suitable for mapping to the "Nimbus Roman No9 L"/"Times New Roman" targets
?

[Bug 1260061] fallbacks for TmsRmn and Helv

[Red Hat Bugzilla]

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1260061

--- Comment #1 from Nicolas Mailhot  ---
I think you have it backwards :)

Anyway more than new aliases this group of fonts really need a modern
implementation in Fedora (trying to use them on modern i18n text is an exercise
in frustration, most non-us users will prefer broken aliasing to
non-metric-compatible fonts rather than aliasing to implementations missing
half the needed symbols). Someone probably needs to revisit packaging TEX Gyre
if they finally fixed licensing warts.

[Bug 1260061] fallbacks for TmsRmn and Helv

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1260061

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[Bug 1260061] fallbacks for TmsRmn and Helv

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        Last Closed|                            |2017-08-08 08:12:42

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[Bug 1260061] fallbacks for TmsRmn and Helv

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--- Comment #5 from ompragash  ---
This bug could not be fixed.