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Summary: Add Greek Polytonic support to Liberation fonts
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Summary: Add Greek Polytonic support to Liberation fonts Product: Fedora Version: rawhide Platform: All OS/Version: Linux Status: NEW Severity: low Priority: medium Component: liberation-fonts AssignedTo: cchance@redhat.com ReportedBy: simos.bugzilla@gmail.com QAContact: extras-qa@fedoraproject.org CC: cchance@redhat.com, fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com, fedora-i18n-bugs@redhat.com Classification: Fedora
The Liberation fonts are missing the Greek Polytonic characters (Greek Extended Unicode group).
In practical terms, the Greek Extended Unicode group is made of the Greek characters with a variety of accents (they are precomposed characters).
This report is to track the process of adding support.
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Caius CHANCE cchance@redhat.com changed:
What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Keywords| |i18n Status|NEW |ASSIGNED
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Caius CHANCE cchance@redhat.com changed:
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--- Comment #1 from Caius CHANCE cchance@redhat.com 2008-12-02 20:28:41 EDT --- Would you prefer to have 'Greek and Coptic Group' filled first? There are 45 chars to be worked.
And the Greek Extended Group has approximately 100 chars to be worked.
I am not from Greek so please let me know which group I should prioritize?
Thank you very much.
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Simos Xenitellis simos.bugzilla@gmail.com changed:
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--- Comment #2 from Simos Xenitellis simos.bugzilla@gmail.com 2008-12-02 21:55:18 EDT --- Yes, filling up the Greek Unicode block would be great. We have updated the Greek layout (XKB) so that users can type these characters as well.
The section for Coptic (U03E2..U03EF) can be skipped because Coptic users make use of the dedicated Coptic Unicode block (starts at U2C80). I am not aware of Coptic documents that use Coptic from the Greek&Coptic Unicode block.
Cheers!
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Caius CHANCE cchance@redhat.com changed:
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--- Comment #3 from Caius CHANCE cchance@redhat.com 2008-12-09 01:59:35 EDT --- Taken away Coptic letters (U03E2..U03EF), it has 30 chars remains.
30 chars * 3 types * 4 styles = 360 glyphs.
I don't think I could finish it alone timely. Could I know how many chars are needed to be filled, before Greek people could use this font? I can't promise how much I could do as I'm just 1 person. Let's try to prioritize it together.
I have read the Greek Extended block. Also, how important for Greek Extended block to Greek people?
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Simos Xenitellis simos.bugzilla@gmail.com changed:
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--- Comment #4 from Simos Xenitellis simos.bugzilla@gmail.com 2008-12-09 09:05:26 EDT --- The current set of glyphs in Liberation should be sufficient to Greek users.
Greek Polytonic and other Ancient characters should be useful to a. Scholars that study Classics and Ancient Greek (mostly Universities around the world) b. People that study Biblical Greek. For example, see http://www.nerdlets.org/category/greek/ c. Modern Greek replaced Greek Polytonic in 1981. There are people who continue to use Polytonic, as shown at http://www.polytoniko.org/
For a sample of users, see http://simos.info/blog/archives/639
As a priority, I would consider Greek Polytonic to be 'Low priority' (I can only change Severity in this Bugzilla, not Priority).
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--- Comment #6 from Caius 'kaio' Chance cchance@redhat.com 2009-06-30 22:51:55 EDT --- Adding new glyphs is not planned at this stage.
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Jens Petersen petersen@redhat.com changed:
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--- Comment #7 from Jens Petersen petersen@redhat.com 2009-08-16 21:31:37 EDT --- Unfortunately we don't have resources to do this work but would appreciate any contributions to implement the glyphs.
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--- Comment #9 from Fedora Admin XMLRPC Client fedora-admin-xmlrpc@redhat.com 2010-07-14 20:22:27 EDT --- This package has changed ownership in the Fedora Package Database. Reassigning to the new owner of this component.
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Pravin Satpute psatpute@redhat.com changed:
What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|ASSIGNED |CLOSED Resolution| |NOTABUG Summary|Add Greek Polytonic support |RFE: Add Greek Polytonic |to Liberation fonts |support to Liberation fonts Flag|needinfo?(simos.bugzilla@gm | |ail.com) |
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Parag pnemade@redhat.com changed:
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Akira TAGOH tagoh@redhat.com changed:
What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Keywords| |FutureFeature CC| |tagoh@redhat.com Version|14 |rawhide
--- Comment #10 from Akira TAGOH tagoh@redhat.com 2011-06-10 03:56:12 EDT --- We still have a problem on resources and this should be available and done for testing in rawhide first. moving back again and added a FutureFeature to prevent changing the version.
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--- Comment #11 from Pravin Satpute psatpute@redhat.com 2011-09-19 05:09:09 EDT --- (In reply to comment #2)
Yes, filling up the Greek Unicode block would be great. We have updated the Greek layout (XKB) so that users can type these characters as well.
The section for Coptic (U03E2..U03EF) can be skipped because Coptic users make use of the dedicated Coptic Unicode block (starts at U2C80). I am not aware of Coptic documents that use Coptic from the Greek&Coptic Unicode block.
I am still not clear, exactly how many Unicode characters required in Liberation fonts for adding Greek Polytonic support
it will be nice if you can provide that information
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Simos Xenitellis simos.bugzilla@gmail.com changed:
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--- Comment #12 from Simos Xenitellis simos.bugzilla@gmail.com 2011-09-19 10:46:06 EDT --- The characters that are needed are in the Greek Extended Unicode group, http://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U1F00.pdf and there are a couple of hundred of them.
The Greek Extended Unicode group contains 'pre-composed' characters only. That means, they are essentially the basic Greek vowels with one or more accents. There are nine accents in total for Greek Polytonic. So, for this work it just needs to take the Greek vowels from http://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U0370.pdf and add the diacritics (as required) from http://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U0300.pdf Sort of a large-scale copy-paste task.
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--- Comment #13 from Pravin Satpute psatpute@redhat.com 2011-09-20 00:23:57 EDT --- Thanks Simos very clear now, lets see if we can find any volunteer for this.
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Pravin Satpute psatpute@redhat.com changed:
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--- Comment #14 from Pravin Satpute psatpute@redhat.com --- Hi simos, We have support for Greek Polytonic in Liberation fonts version 2.00.0. Its already available in rawhide.
You can install it manually from http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=344281
Please test it and let me know if anything more required.
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Pravin Satpute psatpute@redhat.com changed:
What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|MODIFIED |CLOSED Resolution|--- |CURRENTRELEASE Last Closed|2010-07-15 01:13:09 |2012-09-17 05:43:19
--- Comment #15 from Pravin Satpute psatpute@redhat.com --- closing, please reopen if any problem.
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Alessandro Ceschini alescesc1986@yahoo.it changed:
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--- Comment #16 from Alessandro Ceschini alescesc1986@yahoo.it --- Created attachment 888665 --> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=888665&action=edit Sample Text with Polytonic Greek
I've just tested Liberation 2.0 with Polytonic Greek and it looks awesome! Kudos to Mr. Satpute, you did a wonderful job!
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--- Comment #17 from Pravin Satpute psatpute@redhat.com --- Thanks Alessandro :)
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