[Bug 1654517] New: lucida not listed in xlsfonts

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1654517

Bug ID: 1654517
           Summary: lucida not listed in xlsfonts
           Product: Fedora
           Version: 28
         Component: bitmap-fonts
          Assignee: [e-mail]
          Reporter: [e-mail]
        QA Contact: [e-mail]
                CC: [e-mail],
                    [e-mail], [e-mail]

Description of problem:

After installing `bitmap-lucida-typewriter-fonts-0.3-28.fc28.noarch` and
restarting X, Lucida font does not show up in `xlsfonts`.

Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable):

bitmap-lucida-typewriter-fonts-0.3-28.fc28.noarch

How reproducible:

Always

Steps to Reproduce:
1. `dnf install bitmap-lucida-typewriter-fonts`
2. `xlsfonts | grep -i lucida`

Actual results:

`xlsfonts | grep -i lucida` produces no output

Expected results:

`xlsfonts | grep -i lucida` lists the Lucida font

Additional info:

`xlsfonts` works fine otherwise and lists ~580 fonts:

```
xlsfonts | wc -l
584
```

[Bug 1654517] lucida not listed in xlsfonts

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1654517

--- Comment #1 from Parag Nemade  ---
After installing bitmap-lucida-typewriter-fonts package, I see this on F29
$ xlsfonts | wc -l
1035

$ xlsfonts | grep -i lucida|wc -l
212

[Bug 1654517] lucida not listed in xlsfonts

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1654517

--- Comment #2 from Parag Nemade  ---
Oh no, I can reproduce this on Fresh f29 installation.

[Bug 1654517] lucida not listed in xlsfonts

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1654517

--- Comment #3 from Parag Nemade  ---
Can you provide output of below command?
$ rpm -qa | grep xorg-x11-fonts

You can get Lucida font from xorg-x11-fonts-* packages. Install them and then
"xlsfonts". No need then to install "bitmap-lucida-typewriter-fonts"

[Bug 1654517] lucida not listed in xlsfonts

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Akira TAGOH  changed:

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--- Comment #4 from Akira TAGOH  ---
Apparently bitmap-fonts has never provided fonts.dir file which is required to
provide the meta data for X Core fonts system. and xorg-x11-fonts packages also
provides lucida typewriter bitmap fonts too for legacy system.

[Bug 1654517] lucida not listed in xlsfonts

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[Bug 1654517] lucida not listed in xlsfonts

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1654517

--- Comment #5 from Rares Vernica  ---
```
> rpm -qa | grep xorg-x11-fonts

xorg-x11-fonts-misc-7.5-19.fc28.noarch
```

It seems that Lucida is only provided by `bitmap-lucida-typewriter-fonts`
package:

```
> dnf whatprovides *lucida*

bitmap-lucida-typewriter-fonts-0.3-28.fc28.noarch : Selected CJK bitmap fonts
                                                  : for Anaconda
Repo        : fedora
Matched from:
Provide    : font(lucidatypewriter)
Provide    : bitmap-lucida-typewriter-fonts = 0.3-28.fc28
Provide    : config(bitmap-lucida-typewriter-fonts) = 0.3-28.fc28
...
texlive...
FlightGear...
```

I can't find a `xorg-x11-fonts` package, but there are many similar ones:

```
> dnf search xorg-x11-fonts

Last metadata expiration check: 0:43:11 ago on Thu 29 Nov 2018 07:59:57 AM -02.
========================= Name Matched: xorg-x11-fonts
=========================
xorg-x11-fonts-misc.noarch : misc bitmap fonts for the X Window System
xorg-x11-fonts-75dpi.noarch : A set of 75dpi resolution fonts for the X Window
                            : System
xorg-x11-fonts-Type1.noarch : Type1 fonts provided by the X Window System
xorg-x11-fonts-100dpi.noarch : A set of 100dpi resolution fonts for the X
Window
                             : System
xorg-x11-fonts-cyrillic.noarch : Cyrillic fonts for X
xorg-x11-fonts-ethiopic.noarch : Ethiopic fonts
xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-1-75dpi.noarch : A set of 75dpi ISO-8859-1 fonts for X
xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-2-75dpi.noarch : A set of 75dpi Central European
language
                                      : fonts for X
xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-9-75dpi.noarch : ISO8859-9-75dpi fonts
xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-1-100dpi.noarch : A set of 100dpi ISO-8859-1 fonts for X
xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-14-75dpi.noarch : ISO8859-14-75dpi fonts
xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-15-75dpi.noarch : ISO8859-15-75dpi fonts
xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-2-100dpi.noarch : A set of 100dpi Central European
                                       : language fonts for X
xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-9-100dpi.noarch : ISO8859-9-100dpi fonts
xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-14-100dpi.noarch : ISO8859-14-100dpi fonts
xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-15-100dpi.noarch : ISO8859-15-100dpi fonts
```

[Bug 1654517] lucida not listed in xlsfonts

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1654517

--- Comment #6 from Parag Nemade  ---
Please note bitmap-fonts package has not changed majorly since many years. This
package got updated only when mass-rebuild happened or spec file got updated as
per latest packaging guidelines. (Nice to see someone reported bug against
bitmap-fonts package :) This package got only 7 bugs reported including this
since last 18 years!!)

I think you are right Lucida is only coming from bitmap-lucida-typewriter-fonts
package. Checking more on it...

[Bug 1654517] lucida not listed in xlsfonts

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--- Comment #7 from Parag Nemade  ---
So I installed bitmap-lucida-typewriter-fonts and tried "xlsfonts|grep lucida"
no output

but
$ sudo dnf install xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-1-100dpi-7.5-20.fc29.noarch 
Last metadata expiration check: 0:43:19 ago on Thu 29 Nov 2018 05:34:22 PM IST.
Dependencies resolved.
===============================================================================
 Package                            Arch      Version          Repository
                                                                          Size
===============================================================================
Installing:
 xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-1-100dpi    noarch    7.5-20.fc29      fedora    1.1 M

Transaction Summary
===============================================================================
Install  1 Package

Total download size: 1.1 M
Installed size: 1.0 M
Is this ok [y/N]: y
Downloading Packages:
xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-1-100dpi-7.5-20.fc29.no 330 kB/s | 1.1 MB     00:03    
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Total                                          196 kB/s | 1.1 MB     00:05     
Running transaction check
Transaction check succeeded.
Running transaction test
Transaction test succeeded.
Running transaction
  Preparing        :                                                       1/1 
  Installing       : xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-1-100dpi-7.5-20.fc29.noarch    1/1 
  Running scriptlet: xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-1-100dpi-7.5-20.fc29.noarch    1/1 
  Verifying        : xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-1-100dpi-7.5-20.fc29.noarch    1/1

Installed:
  xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-1-100dpi-7.5-20.fc29.noarch

Complete!

$ xlsfonts |grep lucida|wc
    106     106    5414

So, Can you try installing any of below package and check output of
"xlsfonts|grep lucida" ?
xorg-x11-fonts-100dpi-7.5-20.fc29.noarch
xorg-x11-fonts-75dpi-7.5-20.fc29.noarch
xorg-x11-fonts-cyrillic-7.5-20.fc29.noarch
xorg-x11-fonts-ethiopic-7.5-20.fc29.noarch
xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-1-100dpi-7.5-20.fc29.noarch
xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-14-100dpi-7.5-20.fc29.noarch
xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-14-75dpi-7.5-20.fc29.noarch
xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-15-100dpi-7.5-20.fc29.noarch
xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-15-75dpi-7.5-20.fc29.noarch
xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-1-75dpi-7.5-20.fc29.noarch
xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-2-100dpi-7.5-20.fc29.noarch
xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-2-75dpi-7.5-20.fc29.noarch
xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-9-100dpi-7.5-20.fc29.noarch
xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-9-75dpi-7.5-20.fc29.noarch

[Bug 1654517] lucida not listed in xlsfonts

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1654517

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--- Comment #8 from Rares Vernica  ---
Interesting. I did:

```
> dnf install xorg-x11-fonts-100dpi

...
Downloading Packages:
xorg-x11-fonts-100dpi-7.5-19.fc28.noarch.rpm...
```

And `xlsfonts` outputs Lucida:

```
> xlsfonts | grep -i lucida | wc -l

70
```

So, it looks like the `xorg-x11-fonts-100dpi` package does provide the Lucida
font but `dnf whatprovides *lucida*` does *not* list this package as one of
the provides.

[Bug 1654517] lucida not listed in xlsfonts

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1654517

--- Comment #9 from Nicolas Mailhot  ---
xlsfonts is the old X11 core fonts subsystem, it has been deprecated for ~15
years now, anything still using it is on death row and is expected to break
without warning.

No fonts except those provided by legacy xorg font packages are supposed to be
exposed in the X11 core fonts subsystem nowadays. (The X11 core fonts system
has been deprecated by its maintainers because it broke on any non trivial
modern font, and they gave up on trying to make it work).

That's why xorg*fonts* will add to xlsfonts and any normal clean Fedora *-fonts
package won’t.

Conversely, things that feed the X11 core fonts subsystem should not advertise
any particular font support because X11 core fonts are unusable in pretty much
all current apps.

[Bug 1654517] lucida not listed in xlsfonts

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1654517

--- Comment #10 from Rares Vernica  ---
I see, but Emacs and XTerm use font specifications from `xlsfonts`, like:

```
> cat .Xdefaults

Emacs.font:                   
-b&h-lucidatypewriter-medium-r-normal-sans-12-120-75-75-m-70-iso10646-1
XTerm*font:           
-b&h-lucidatypewriter-medium-r-normal-sans-12-120-75-75-m-70-iso10646-1
...
```

[Bug 1654517] lucida not listed in xlsfonts

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1654517

--- Comment #12 from Akira TAGOH  ---
The modern fonts can be used in even both apps. For Emacs, you can define own
fontset with (new-fontset ...) and (set-fontset-font ...) functions. google it.
you may see some examples.

For xterm, you can specify a font with -fa option like -fa "DejaVu Sans
Mono:size=10" or in X resources:

xterm*faceName: DejaVu Sans Mono:size=10