[Bug 495820] New: numerals aren't fixed-width in all sizes of sans font

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Summary: numerals aren't fixed-width in all sizes of sans font

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Summary: numerals aren't fixed-width in all sizes of sans font
           Product: Fedora
           Version: rawhide
          Platform: All
        OS/Version: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: low
          Priority: low
         Component: dejavu-fonts
        AssignedTo: [e-mail]
        ReportedBy: [e-mail]
         QAContact: [e-mail]
                CC: [e-mail],
                    [e-mail]
    Classification: Fedora

Description of problem:
in the default font and size used in firstboot the '5' digit is a slightly
different width, i think.  so in the 'date and time' settings screen the text
shuffles a bit as the seconds and minutes tick through 05/15/25 etc.

ah, actually, it looks like it's a hinting problem - this happens with 'full'
and 'medium' but not with 'slight' or 'none'.  not sure if that means it's a
problem with freetype rather than the font.

Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable):
freetype-2.3.9-3.fc11.i586
dejavu-sans-fonts-2.29-2.fc11.noarch

How reproducible:
always.

Steps to Reproduce:
1.install fedora
2.in firstboot go to date&time screen
3.watch the time ticking and observe text layout

alternatively log in and enable seconds display and 12 hour mode on the panel
clock and watch that.

Actual results:
layout 'jiggles' as numbers change.

Expected results:
no jiggling.

Additional info:
i think this has been like this for a year at least.

[Bug 495820] numerals aren't fixed-width in all sizes of sans font

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         AssignedTo|[e-mail] |[e-mail]

--- Comment #1 from Nicolas Mailhot   2009-04-15 03:31:08 EDT ---
If it happens only with some autohinter settings it's clearly an autohinter
bug.

Please file a report in the freetype component of freedesktop bugzilla (CC-ing
fedora-fonts-bugs-list at redhat.com)

[Bug 495820] numerals aren't fixed-width in all sizes of sans font

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--- Comment #2 from [e-mail]  2009-04-15 08:41:17 EDT ---
okay, i will do that.  but are you certain that it _must_ be the freetype
autohinter?  aren't some of the hinting things stored in the fonts themselves? 
i did try a couple of other fonts and couldn't reproduce the same behaviour.

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--- Comment #3 from [e-mail]  2009-04-15 08:57:21 EDT ---
freetype bug raised.  :-)

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--- Comment #4 from Kevin Kofler   2009-04-15 08:58:11 EDT ---
The Fedora freetype package is built without the interpreter for hinting
bytecode for patent reasons, so yes, if you're using the Fedora freetype
package, it must be the autohinter.

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--- Comment #5 from [e-mail]  2009-04-15 09:02:08 EDT ---
ah, right.  thanks for the explanation.  makes sense.

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