[Bug 1718521] New: The URL in the package metadata is obsolete

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1718521

Bug ID: 1718521
           Summary: The URL in the package metadata is obsolete
           Product: Fedora
           Version: 30
            Status: NEW
         Component: oldstandard-sfd-fonts
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  Target Milestone: ---
    Classification: Fedora

The URL listed in the package, http://www.thessalonica.org.ru/en/fonts.html, no
longer points to information about the font.  It redirects to some
cryptocurrency page.

I tried to google it, and couldn't find any obvious replacement.  The font is
listed in various font collections, but nothing about this font in particular.

Maybe the URL should simply be removed from the package.

[Bug 1718521] The URL in the package metadata is obsolete

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Ankur Sinha (FranciscoD)  changed:

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--- Comment #1 from Ankur Sinha (FranciscoD)  ---
That's unfortunate. Ideally, if upstream is no longer inactive, the font should
be retired from Fedora. I'll leave it be for the time being and remove it in
the next release maybe.

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--- Comment #2 from Nicolas Mailhot  ---
However, I don't think we have a replacement font for old slavic :(

[Bug 1718521] The URL in the package metadata is obsolete

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--- Comment #3 from Ankur Sinha (FranciscoD)  ---
Ah---I'm happy to keep it around as long as it works, Nicolas.

I don't think I can remove the URL, though. Maybe I could use our wiki url and
make a note in the spec?

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Old_Standard_fonts

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--- Comment #4 from Nicolas Mailhot  ---
I think the best practice when upstream vanishes is to transform the URL in the
spec into a comment ("originally downloaded from xxxx)

Sometimes upstream just moved, and Google finds its new home. And sometimes it
does not exist anymore:( That's the problem with one-man "designer" projects.

Though in that particular case, it seems to exist within oflb
https://fontlibrary.org/en/font/old-standard
and google fonts
https://fonts.google.com/specimen/Old+Standard+TT

so the most recent of them could be used as new upstream

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--- Comment #5 from Göran Uddeborg  ---
> I don't think I can remove the URL, though.

Is there anything in any guidelines REQUIRING a URL in every package?  Rpmbuild
itself doesn't require it from what I know.  Is there anything in the Fedora
rules that does?

Now, it might anyway be a good idea to use a link to a font collection as
suggested in comment 4.  And if there wasn't any reasonable URL at all, it
might be a good idea to make it a comment as also suggested.  But is there
really anything that would have prevented you from removing it altogether?

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--- Comment #6 from Nicolas Mailhot  ---
URL is not mandatory. Some very old components in Linux systems antedate the
web, and were published on long dead (not http) forums. The corresponding
archive in Fedora dist-git has no URL. (I was the maintainer of such a package
in Fedora before relinquishing it. IIRC the package has since been dropped, but
its makes you realise Fedora can carry things long after their upstream has
vanished as long as the result works and someone is ready to look at problems).

Another example in the distro is PT Sans. It was commissioned (paid for) by the
Russian Federation, so for a little stretch of time the foundry was motivated
to be nice to the general public, and they published a version with correct OFL
metadata on a web forum when the public asked. Unfortunately, they didn't fix
the version on their main web site, which carries the usual freeware (not
freedomware) licensing info. Now that the web forum has been EOL-ed, and public
money has dried up, there is no upstream URL to download OFL PT Sans from
anymore.

[Bug 1718521] The URL in the package metadata is obsolete

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Fedora Update System  changed:

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--- Comment #7 from Fedora Update System  ---
FEDORA-2019-1fa2b46eb1 has been submitted as an update to Fedora 30.
https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2019-1fa2b46eb1

[Bug 1718521] The URL in the package metadata is obsolete

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Fedora Update System  changed:

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--- Comment #7 from Fedora Update System  ---
FEDORA-2019-1fa2b46eb1 has been submitted as an update to Fedora 30.
https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2019-1fa2b46eb1

--- Comment #8 from Fedora Update System  ---
FEDORA-2019-06ed61dc40 has been submitted as an update to Fedora 29.
https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2019-06ed61dc40

[Bug 1718521] The URL in the package metadata is obsolete

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Fedora Update System  changed:

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             Status|MODIFIED                    |ON_QA

--- Comment #9 from Fedora Update System  ---
oldstandard-sfd-fonts-2.0.2-26.fc29 has been pushed to the Fedora 29 testing
repository. If problems still persist, please make note of it in this bug
report.
See https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Updates_Testing for
instructions on how to install test updates.
You can provide feedback for this update here:
https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2019-06ed61dc40

[Bug 1718521] The URL in the package metadata is obsolete

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--- Comment #10 from Fedora Update System  ---
oldstandard-sfd-fonts-2.0.2-26.fc30 has been pushed to the Fedora 30 testing
repository. If problems still persist, please make note of it in this bug
report.
See https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Updates_Testing for
instructions on how to install test updates.
You can provide feedback for this update here:
https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2019-1fa2b46eb1

[Bug 1718521] The URL in the package metadata is obsolete

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Fedora Update System  changed:

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             Status|ON_QA                       |CLOSED
   Fixed In Version|                            |oldstandard-sfd-fonts-2.0.2
                   |                            |-26.fc30
         Resolution|---                         |ERRATA
        Last Closed|                            |2019-08-07 01:44:34

--- Comment #11 from Fedora Update System  ---
oldstandard-sfd-fonts-2.0.2-26.fc30 has been pushed to the Fedora 30 stable
repository. If problems still persist, please make note of it in this bug
report.

[Bug 1718521] The URL in the package metadata is obsolete

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Fedora Update System  changed:

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   Fixed In Version|oldstandard-sfd-fonts-2.0.2 |oldstandard-sfd-fonts-2.0.2
                   |-26.fc30                    |-26.fc30
                   |                            |oldstandard-sfd-fonts-2.0.2
                   |                            |-26.fc29

--- Comment #12 from Fedora Update System  ---
oldstandard-sfd-fonts-2.0.2-26.fc29 has been pushed to the Fedora 29 stable
repository. If problems still persist, please make note of it in this bug
report.