[Bug 1999078] New: Hinting broken for Bitstream Vera/DejaVu in Epiphany

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Bug ID: 1999078
           Summary: Hinting broken for Bitstream Vera/DejaVu in Epiphany
           Product: Fedora
           Version: 34
            Status: NEW
         Component: freetype
          Assignee: [e-mail]
          Reporter: [e-mail]
        QA Contact: [e-mail]
                CC: [e-mail], [e-mail],
                    [e-mail],
                    [e-mail],
                    [e-mail], [e-mail],
                    [e-mail], [e-mail],
                    [e-mail], [e-mail],
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  Target Milestone: ---
    Classification: Fedora

Created attachment 1819062
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Screenshot with varying sub pixel placement

Description of problem:

After upgrading from Fedora 33 to Fedora 34, there is some extremely odd
hinting bug in Epiphany. The same glyph appears with different amount of
hinting in the same line of text, causing a very odd and blurry appearance.

Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable):

freetype-2.10.4-3.fc34.x86_64
bitstream-vera-sans-fonts-1.10-41.fc33.noarch
dejavu-sans-fonts-2.37-16.fc34.noarch
epiphany-40.3-1.fc34.x86_64
webkit2gtk3-2.32.3-1.fc34.x86_64
pango-1.48.9-2.fc34.x86_64

How reproducible:

100%

Steps to Reproduce:
1. Configure Epiphany to use Bitstream Vera or DejaVu Sans Book
2. Configure full hinting

Actual results:

Fully hinted, consistent glyphs.

Expected results:

Some glyphs are fully hinted, some look like they've been offset by a fraction
of a pixel. (See screenshot)

Additional info:

So far I'm only seeing this in Epiphany. I still filed this for freetype since
as far as I know it is freetype that does all glyph layout, hinting and
sub-pixel stuff. Feel free to move as appropriate. So it seems odd that a bug
in Epiphany can screw this up.

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--- Comment #1 from Pierre Ossman  ---
Doesn't seem to be font specific. I tried a few variants of Ubuntu's font as
well, and see similar problems there.

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--- Comment #2 from Marek Kašík  ---
Hi,

could you point me to a specific web page where you see the issue? What size of
the font do you have set?

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--- Comment #3 from Pierre Ossman  ---
I noticed it in Slack, which is what I primarily use Epiphany for since it has
the best "Web App" functionality. However I can also see it on our company
page: https://www.cendio.com/

This is with the following custom stylesheet:
> {
>   font-family: sans-serif;
>
> }
>
> pre {
>     font-family: monospace !important;
> }
>
> pre * {
>     font-family: monospace;
> }

Without that it picks some other fonts that are poorly hinted so it's difficult
to tell what works from what doesn't.

The "Use custom fonts" setting has no effect on the page for me, but in case it
is relevant for you I have the following settings with it enabled:

* Sans serif font: Sans Regular 12
* Serif font: Serif Regular 12
* Monospace font: Monospace Regular 12

I'll attach a screenshot with how that page renders for me.

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--- Comment #4 from Pierre Ossman  ---
Created attachment 1819109
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screenshot of https://www.cendio.com

Note the section on the left where "ThinLinc is..." starts properly hinted and
then goes blurry.

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--- Comment #5 from Marek Kašík  ---
Thank you for the info.
Unfortunately, I still can not reproduce this. How do you set the full hinting?

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--- Comment #6 from Pierre Ossman  ---
Unfortunately every upgrade of the font system tends to disable more and more
hinting, so I have quite a few settings in place. I have not checked which are
relevant here and which aren't.

The modifications I've done are:

* In GNOME Tweaks, configure the Fonts section to "Hinting: Full" and
"Antialiasing: Standard (greyscale)"

* In .bashrc I have "export
FREETYPE_PROPERTIES=truetype:interpreter-version=35"

* I've added a fontconfig override as
~/.config/fontconfig/conf.d/99-hinting-full.conf:
> <?xml version="1.0"?>
>
> <!DOCTYPE fontconfig SYSTEM "fonts.dtd">
>
> <fontconfig>
>   <match target="pattern">
>     <edit name="hintstyle" mode="assign"><const>hintfull</const></edit>
>   </match>
> </fontconfig>

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--- Comment #7 from Pierre Ossman  ---
Also note that this still doesn't achieve full hinting for OTF/CFF fonts (bug
1545149), so if Epiphany is choosing such fonts on your system, for some
reason, then you might not see the issue.

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--- Comment #8 from Marek Kašík  ---
Hi Pierre,

after some testing I am able to reproduce the issue to some extent with
pango-view. The reproducer looks like this:

FREETYPE_PROPERTIES=truetype:interpreter-version=35 pango-view --dpi 72
--text="ThinLinc is a software" --font="dejavu sans book 14" --antialias=gray
--hinting=full --subpixel-positions --backend=cairo

The important part of that is "--subpixel-positions", it enables pango to
position glyphs on non-integral positions. Epiphany seems to do the same (but
differently). Since v35 interpreter does not support subpixel hinting the
glyphs looks blurry at some parts of the text.

There is nothing I can do with this in freetype. Default interpreter is v40 now
and it supports subpixel hinting (although I see that you prefer the old one).

I'm reassigning this bug to Epiphany with question whether there is a
possibility to turn of sub-pixel positioning of glyphs?

Regards

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--- Comment #9 from Pierre Ossman  ---
Thanks for investigating.

Shouldn't this affect more users of Pango in that case? I'm not seeing this in
any other application so far, and I figured Pango is widely used?

(And the v40 engine explicitly doesn't do full hinting horizontally, otherwise
I would be fine using that)

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Michael Catanzaro  changed:

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--- Comment #10 from Michael Catanzaro  ---
Epiphany doesn't have anything to do with font rendering on web pages. This is
100% handled by WebKit and its dependencies, FreeType, harfbuzz, and
Fontconfig. So I'm going to go ahead and reassign this to WebKit I suppose.

(In reply to Pierre Ossman from comment #9)
> Thanks for investigating.
>
> Shouldn't this affect more users of Pango in that case? I'm not seeing this
> in any other application so far, and I figured Pango is widely used?
>
> (And the v40 engine explicitly doesn't do full hinting horizontally,
> otherwise I would be fine using that)

Pango is not involved here at all. That's only used by the GTK user interface
portions of the browser, not used by WebKit.

(In reply to Marek Kašík from comment #8)
> I'm reassigning this bug to Epiphany with question whether there is a
> possibility to turn of sub-pixel positioning of glyphs?

To clarify: you want me to turn *off* subpixel positioning, if it is currently
enabled? I think the answer is "no" because all other browsers are doing
subpixel positioning nowadays, and so is GTK 4. This implies that at least
horizontal hinting must not be performed, since subpixel positioning and
horizontal hinting are incompatible. And that further implies that using the
v35 interpreter is self-sabotage, since that version of the interpreter does
horizontal hinting. Yes?

That said, I'm not actually sure whether WebKit really does subpixel
positioning or not. I guess maybe? Most of the relevant code is under
Source/WebCore/platform/graphics/freetype or
Source/WebCore/platform/graphics/harfbuzz. I have no clue what to look for to
find out. Desktop font hinting and antialiasing settings get merged in
FontCacheFreeType.cpp using cairo_ft_font_options_substitute(), but of course
we have no settings to control subpixel positioning, so I'm not sure whether
that happens at all.

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--- Comment #11 from Pierre Ossman  ---
(In reply to Marek Kašík from comment #8)
> There is nothing I can do with this in freetype. Default interpreter is v40
> now and it supports subpixel hinting (although I see that you prefer the old
> one).

Thinking a bit more about this, are you sure this isn't a freetype issue?
Epiphany/WebKit must be getting its coordinates from Freetype on how wide
glyphs are? And if subpixel hinting isn't done, then those coordinates should
be integers?

It's also configured for greyscale antialiasing, not subpixel, which also
should mean integer positioning?
> To clarify: you want me to turn *off* subpixel positioning, if it is
> currently enabled? I think the answer is "no" because all other browsers are
> doing subpixel positioning nowadays, and so is GTK 4. This implies that at
> least horizontal hinting must not be performed, since subpixel positioning
> and horizontal hinting are incompatible. And that further implies that using
> the v35 interpreter is self-sabotage, since that version of the interpreter
> does horizontal hinting. Yes?

I'm not seeing this in Firefox, nor gedit, which it sounds like I should in
that case. Can't really test Chrome since it seems to ignore all font settings
and does its own thing...

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--- Comment #12 from Pierre Ossman  ---
Created attachment 1819931
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screenshot of chromium

My bad. It was just that Chrome was using other fonts. By overriding the CSS a
bit I can get the same font as Epiphany. And the issue does not appear in
either Chrome or chromium-91.0.4472.164-1.fc34.x86_64. I've also attached a
screenshot in case it is helpful.

So this does seem to be very specific Epiphany or webkit2gtk3 issue.

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--- Comment #13 from Pierre Ossman  ---
I tried to pinpoint what in the upgrade caused this, but I'm having problems
doing so. Suggestions welcome.

I tried downgrading epiphany to epiphany-3.38.3-1.fc33.x86_64.rpm, but it
didn't have any effect.

I then downloaded freetype-2.10.4-1.fc33.x86_64.rpm and
webkit2gtk3-2.32.3-1.fc33.x86_64.rpm, unpacked them in a temporary directory
and redirected epiphany there using LD_LIBRARY_PATH, but the problem still
remains. Even tried pango-1.48.4-1.fc33.x86_64.rpm as well just to make sure.

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--- Comment #14 from Nikolaus Waxweiler  ---
I remember this from Chrome:
https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=824153. I think the
solution was to disable subpixel positioning if the TTF v35 engine is active
(don't just check for FreeType's HINTING_FULL because the OTF renderer can deal
with subpixel positioning just fine).

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--- Comment #15 from Michael Catanzaro  ---
(In reply to Nikolaus Waxweiler from comment #14)
> I remember this from Chrome:
> https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=824153. I think the
> solution was to disable subpixel positioning if the TTF v35 engine is active
> (don't just check for FreeType's HINTING_FULL because the OTF renderer can
> deal with subpixel positioning just fine).

The only change in that bug was:

https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src.git/+/0f95346897076c4c2d2c46f...

and I'm not sure what it's doing, but it certainly isn't checking interpreter
version.

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--- Comment #16 from Michael Catanzaro  ---
BTW I see no evidence that WebKit is doing subpixel positioning at all. I think
I would remember if this feature was added anytime recently, and a quick 'git
grep subpixel' shows only results related to subpixel antialiasing.

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--- Comment #17 from Nikolaus Waxweiler  ---
Linear metrics are advance widths that are the same regardless of pixel size.
Before, hinting or just rounding of advance widths would force you to recompute
metrics for text after every size (or zoom level) change. It's a simplification
you can do when you have subpixel positioning. Isn't it done by Skia?

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--- Comment #18 from Michael Catanzaro  ---
(In reply to Nikolaus Waxweiler from comment #17)
> Linear metrics are advance widths that are the same regardless of pixel
> size. Before, hinting or just rounding of advance widths would force you to
> recompute metrics for text after every size (or zoom level) change. It's a
> simplification you can do when you have subpixel positioning. Isn't it done
> by Skia?

I have no clue. WebKit doesn't use Skia anyway. It uses harfbuzz, cairo,
FreeType, and Fontconfig.

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--- Comment #19 from Pierre Ossman  ---
Anything I can do in my end to help this progress?

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--- Comment #20 from Michael Catanzaro  ---
You could try hunting down a font expert to suggest specific code changes in
WebKit. We're unlikely to change anything unless somebody suggests a very
specific change, and explains exactly why it makes sense to make the change.

So far it has been suggested that we disable subpixel positioning, but I don't
think we do any subpixel positioning, and I wouldn't have any clue how to go
about disabling it anyway.

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--- Comment #21 from Michael Catanzaro  ---
(Oh, also as I mentioned in comment #10: even if we *were* doing subpixel
positioning and I *did* know how to disable that, it seems that's what everyone
else is moving to nowadays, so I don't think we would *want* to.)

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--- Comment #22 from Pierre Ossman  ---
If this is something that everyone else is doing, then it seems very odd that
I'm only seeing the issue in Epiphany? It seems to me that either everyone else
has a workaround for this case, or are doing positioning in a way that doesn't
cause this issue.

Can I do some test to pinpoint if this is a general webkit2gtk3 issue, or
specific to Epiphany?

Is it worth exploring the regression angle, since this worked in Fedora 33? And
if so, how? I've tried downgrading the obvious offenders.

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--- Comment #23 from Michael Catanzaro  ---
(In reply to Pierre Ossman from comment #22)
> If this is something that everyone else is doing, then it seems very odd
> that I'm only seeing the issue in Epiphany? It seems to me that either
> everyone else has a workaround for this case, or are doing positioning in a
> way that doesn't cause this issue.

My guess: something in WebKit's font rendering code doesn't work well with the
font settings you've configured. WebKit either does this something worse, or
just differently than other software that you use. But I really have no way to
know what that something is. There are no Linux font experts working on WebKit
who I can pass this issue to, which is why I haven't moved this bug to WebKit
Bugzilla.
> Can I do some test to pinpoint if this is a general webkit2gtk3 issue, or
> specific to Epiphany?

Epiphany doesn't have much control over fonts or web content, so no point in
pursuing that angle. ;) All it can do is change the the default fonts and font
sizes that get passed to WebKit, if you modify the settings in the Appearance
settings panel. But I doubt that's that's relevant to your issue.
> Is it worth exploring the regression angle, since this worked in Fedora 33?
> And if so, how? I've tried downgrading the obvious offenders.

Yeah sure, if you can find this is caused by some package update, that would be
very interesting. That said, the version of WebKitGTK available in F33 and F34
should be identical. I see you've already tried downgrading FreeType and
WebKitGTK. Next I would try, in order of most likely culprit to least-likely:
cario, harfbuzz, and Fontconfig. If it's not due to any of those, then I don't
know.

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--- Comment #24 from Marek Kašík  ---
Hi,

I had a look at where the subpixel positioning comes from. I've found out that
the subpixel positioning was added to cairo 1.17.4 and indeed reverting it
shows the result Pierre expects.
It was added in these commits:

https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/cairo/cairo/-/commit/ea9329215d3431ded51a71b7...
https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/cairo/cairo/-/commit/6fd4222ab00c3b93f038172a...
https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/cairo/cairo/-/commit/e4a79db0108be6a2b06dfce5...
https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/cairo/cairo/-/commit/52a7c79fd4ff96bb5fac175f...

Pierre, could you test this scratch build of cairo, whether it shows what you
expect?

https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=75665713

I would like to point out that reverting it is not a fix, I've created the
scratch build just to confirm that we see the same issue. I'll reassign it to
cairo if the answer is "yes".

Regards

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--- Comment #25 from Pierre Ossman  ---
Sorry for the delay here. I'm trying to set up a VM so I can play around more
freely with things. However I'm having trouble getting epiphany to respect the
settings properly. It's still not doing full hinting, even with the
modifications from comment 6. So there must be something else I've done to my
workstation. Everything else is fully hinted, just not Epiphany.

Marek, were you able to get Epiphany to render things the way I'm seeing? And
if so, with what changes?

On the plus side, I'm seeing something similar in GNOME Software, which
supports the idea that this is not specific to Epiphany. However it doesn't
have the per-character behaviour, but rather per paragraph. It is also
misplacing things vertically, rather than horizontally. But wouldn't that cause
issues with "modern" hinting as well, as that still hints vertically? If so,
then it is perhaps a general bug rather than incompatibility with full hinting.

I'll attach a screenshot of what I'm seeing with GNOME software.

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--- Comment #26 from Pierre Ossman  ---
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--- Comment #27 from Pierre Ossman  ---
Never mind, that was some oddity with DejaVu. Installing Bitstream got more
consistent behaviour.

I tried that special build of Cairo, and it does indeed seem to be it. With
that applied I'm getting correct rendering in both Epiphany and GNOME software.

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--- Comment #28 from Marek Kašík  ---
Thank you for the confirmation. I'm reassigning this to cairo for their
consideration.

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--- Comment #29 from Michael Catanzaro  ---
I doubt you'll get any response from the package maintainer here. You'll
probably need to take this to upstream.

That said, be prepared to be told that subpixel antialiasing is the new
hotness, and horizontal hinting (as performed by the v35 interpreter) is just
going to look bad.

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--- Comment #30 from Pierre Ossman  ---
Sure, filed here: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/cairo/cairo/-/issues/511

And as noted, vertical hinting also seems to be affected so this should be a
general issue.

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--- Comment #32 from Pierre Ossman  ---
I'm afraid this issue remains. Tested with:

epiphany-42.2-1.fc36.x86_64
cairo-1.17.6-1.fc36.x86_64
webkit2gtk3-2.36.1-1.fc36.x86_64

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--- Comment #35 from Pierre Ossman  ---
The issue remains, unfortunately. I've moved the discussion upstream, though,
so let's continue there:

https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=260196

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This package has changed maintainer in Fedora. Reassigning to the new
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[Bug 1999078] Hinting strangely broken in Epiphany

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1999078

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[Bug 1999078] Hinting strangely broken in Epiphany

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1999078

Pierre Ossman  changed:

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--- Comment #38 from Pierre Ossman  ---
Still broken, unfortunately.

[Bug 1999078] Hinting strangely broken in Epiphany

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1999078

--- Comment #39 from Michael Catanzaro  ---
Note that in WebKitGTK 2.45/2.46 the font rendering backend has changed from
cairo to skia, so this bug report will no longer be relevant, and also not
reproducible unless you can find a way to trigger it without using WebKitGTK.

[Bug 1999078] Hinting strangely broken in Epiphany

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1999078

--- Comment #40 from Pierre Ossman  ---
That's hopeful. Fedora 39 has WebKitGTK 2.44. Does Fedora 40 have the new
version?

[Bug 1999078] Hinting strangely broken in Epiphany

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1999078

--- Comment #41 from Michael Catanzaro  ---
I'm building it for rawhide now. It'll hit stable Fedoras in September.

[Bug 1999078] Hinting strangely broken in Epiphany

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1999078

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[Bug 1999078] Hinting strangely broken in Epiphany

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1999078

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        Last Closed|2023-05-25 18:18:20         |2024-11-27 21:00:34

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