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Summary: Bold u renders badly (blurry) for liberation sans, w too to a smaller extent
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Summary: Bold u renders badly (blurry) for liberation sans, w too to a smaller extent Product: Fedora Version: rawhide Platform: All OS/Version: Windows Status: NEW Severity: medium Priority: medium Component: liberation-fonts AssignedTo: cchance@redhat.com ReportedBy: saurabh@hotmail.com QAContact: extras-qa@fedoraproject.org CC: fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com Estimated Hours: 0.0 Classification: Fedora
Description of problem: n/t, see attached image. I have not tested this on architectures other than windows xp.
Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable): Latest 1.0.4 and 1.0.4.91-devel
How reproducible:
Steps to Reproduce: 1. 2. 3.
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--- Comment #1 from saurabh@hotmail.com 2008-09-20 20:16:31 EDT --- Created an attachment (id=317296) --> (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=317296) (Same as original attachment which possibly didnt go in)
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Caius CHANCE cchance@redhat.com changed:
What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |ASSIGNED
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--- Comment #2 from Caius CHANCE cchance@redhat.com 2008-09-29 20:48:45 EDT --- Is it using bolded LiberationSans-Regular.ttf, or normal LiberationSans-Bold.ttf ?
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Caius CHANCE cchance@redhat.com changed:
What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Flag| |needinfo?(saurabh@hotmail.c | |om)
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--- Comment #3 from saurabh@hotmail.com 2008-10-01 17:28:23 EDT --- I'm almost certain it's the -Bold.ttf. (It's whatever font firefox picks up). I saw it in the Windows font viewer and other font viewers and it looks similarly blurred. I also discovered that it's apparent (to my untrained eye at least) only at <= 12 pt, and it gets progressively worse at lower pt - it's really bad at 9 pt. Also discovered Mono Bold has a similar problem. Serif doesnt have it afaict.
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Caius CHANCE cchance@redhat.com changed:
What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Summary|Bold u renders badly |LiberationSans-Bold 'u' and |(blurry) for liberation |'W' blurred in smaller |sans, w too to a smaller |sizes. |extent |
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Caius CHANCE cchance@redhat.com changed:
What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Keywords| |i18n Flag| |needinfo?(saurabh@hotmail.c | |om)
--- Comment #4 from Caius CHANCE cchance@redhat.com 2008-10-15 02:29:26 EDT --- Hi Need Real Name,
Ran fontforge and made a testing fix:
https://fedorahosted.org/releases/l/i/liberation-fonts/liberation-fonts-1.04... https://fedorahosted.org/releases/l/i/liberation-fonts/liberation-fonts-1.04...
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Bug Zapper fedora-triage-list@redhat.com changed:
What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Version|rawhide |10
Fedora Update System updates@fedoraproject.org changed:
What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|ASSIGNED |ON_QA
--- Comment #5 from Bug Zapper fedora-triage-list@redhat.com 2008-11-25 22:09:36 EDT ---
This bug appears to have been reported against 'rawhide' during the Fedora 10 development cycle. Changing version to '10'.
More information and reason for this action is here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/HouseKeeping
--- Comment #6 from Fedora Update System updates@fedoraproject.org 2008-12-06 23:17:03 EDT --- liberation-fonts-1.04.92-1.fc10 has been pushed to the Fedora 10 testing repository. If problems still persist, please make note of it in this bug report. If you want to test the update, you can install it with su -c 'yum --enablerepo=updates-testing update liberation-fonts'. You can provide feedback for this update here: http://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F10/FEDORA-2008-10773
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--- Comment #7 from Fedora Update System updates@fedoraproject.org 2008-12-09 23:38:59 EDT --- liberation-fonts-1.04.92-1.fc10 has been pushed to the Fedora 10 stable repository. If problems still persist, please make note of it in this bug report.
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Fedora Update System updates@fedoraproject.org changed:
What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|ON_QA |CLOSED Resolution| |NEXTRELEASE
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Felix Kaechele felix@fetzig.org changed:
What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |felix@fetzig.org Flag|needinfo?(saurabh@hotmail.c | |om) |
--- Comment #8 from Felix Kaechele felix@fetzig.org 2008-12-17 11:32:41 EDT --- Could this please be reopened?
I started having this issue after the I installed the update mentioned by the Bodhi bot.
I attached a screenshot for reference.
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--- Comment #9 from Felix Kaechele felix@fetzig.org 2008-12-17 11:33:25 EDT --- Created an attachment (id=327266) --> (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=327266) Screenshot for reference
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--- Comment #10 from saurabh@hotmail.com 2009-07-04 14:14:34 EDT --- Created an attachment (id=350501) --> (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=350501) bold font at 11px in 1.04.93
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saurabh@hotmail.com changed:
What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Keywords| |Reopened Status|CLOSED |ASSIGNED Resolution|NEXTRELEASE |
--- Comment #11 from saurabh@hotmail.com 2009-07-04 14:17:24 EDT --- My attachment (I dont know why one cant attach as one comments) shows that the problem still exists with 1.04.93, see the horrible u and w rendering at the photo caption comment and the section title. I've accordingly reopened the bug.
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--- Comment #12 from saurabh@hotmail.com 2009-07-04 14:19:50 EDT --- Sorry for the spamming, but the y and v are bad too, and possibly others (need better eyes than mine).
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--- Comment #13 from Caius 'kaio' Chance cchance@redhat.com 2009-07-06 00:27:26 EDT --- Thank you very much for providing info.
Please re-test w/ 1.05:
https://fedorahosted.org/releases/l/i/liberation-fonts/liberation-fonts-ttf-...
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Caius 'kaio' Chance cchance@redhat.com changed:
What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Depends on| |503430
--- Comment #14 from Caius 'kaio' Chance cchance@redhat.com 2009-07-07 21:07:43 EDT --- Needs bug #503430 to get precondition correct, with traditional kern table conserved.
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--- Comment #15 from saurabh@hotmail.com 2009-07-18 10:27:10 EDT --- I tried it with 1.05.1.20090706, and the u is much better but not perfect (see the word Tour in my attachment to follow, the u is closer to r than o). You can see other imperfections; - w, y are quite blurry - Just like u, t's kerning (if that's the right word) is off (see 'other'). - I can totally tell there are other problems but I cant figure out what they are, need a font designer to really identify and fix them.
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--- Comment #16 from saurabh@hotmail.com 2009-07-18 10:28:01 EDT --- Created an attachment (id=354254) --> (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=354254) With 1.05.1.20090706
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--- Comment #17 from Caius 'kaio' Chance cchance@redhat.com 2009-07-19 19:30:46 EDT --- Thanks for test results. I am currently fixing the kern table issue and hope such fix would resolve this problem at once. I guess this bug was related to missing kern table, too.
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Bug 463036 depends on bug 503430, which changed state.
Bug 503430 Summary: Incorrect Kerning in some applications https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=503430
What |Old Value |New Value ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|ASSIGNED |CLOSED Resolution| |RAWHIDE
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--- Comment #18 from Bug Zapper fedora-triage-list@redhat.com 2009-11-18 03:24:46 EDT ---
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Jens Petersen petersen@redhat.com changed:
What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |petersen@redhat.com Version|10 |12
--- Comment #19 from Jens Petersen petersen@redhat.com 2009-12-09 02:20:21 EDT --- Assuming this is still a problem? So moving to f12.
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Caius 'kaio' Chance cchance@redhat.com changed:
What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|ASSIGNED |CLOSED Resolution| |RAWHIDE
--- Comment #20 from Caius 'kaio' Chance cchance@redhat.com 2010-05-05 23:21:22 EDT --- The blurriness have been worked on with cleaning up in those glyphs and applied auto-instruct for hinting. I am sorry that will not work on the hinting manually for short term. The archive and RPMs are as follows:
http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=171721 http://liberation-fonts.googlecode.com/files/liberation-fonts-ttf-1.05.3.201...
For the kerning issues, are they reproducible on version 1.02? If so, please file a separate ticket at: http://code.google.com/p/liberation-fonts/issues/entry . If not, I will still fix that but I don't guarantee if this font could have same metrics as Arial in Bold style.
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