HVD Comic Serif Pro: licensing confusion
by J.B. Nicholson-Owens
I found HVD Comic Serif Pro on the wish list of fonts to be reviewed and
packaged for inclusion into Fedora GNU/Linux.
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/HVD_Comic_Serif_fonts
I downloaded a copy of the font archive file --
http://hvdfonts.com/assets/Document/15/HVD_Comic_Serif_Pro.zip -- and I
read the Readme.txt file therein.
That Readme.txt file includes terms which conflict with the license:
> This typeface may not be modified in any way unless it contains an
> unmodified copy of this text file and attributes Hannes von Döhren in
> the font metadata.
and
> Neither the Font Software nor any of its individual components,
> in Original or Modified Versions, may be sold by itself. Original or
> Modified Versions of the Font Software may be bundled, redistributed
> and/or sold with any software, provided that each copycontains the
> above copyright notice and this license
conflict with portions of the license (for the font, I can only guess)
which is listed as:
> LICENSE:
> "This work is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution 3.0
> Unported License. To view a copy of this license, visit
> http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/ or send a letter to Creative
> Commons, 171 Second Street, Suite 300, San Francisco, California, 94105,
> USA."
The top two passages I quoted above seem to me to be licensing terms.
And these terms conflict with CC BY 3.0 unported:
- there is no requirement in this CC license which requires a licensor
to include "an unmodified copy of this text file"
- there are no restrictions in this CC license against distributing
copies of this font alone for a fee
- attribution in accordance with this CC license can be achieved without
including this Readme.txt file (one could, for example, include no such
file and list changes elsewhere, or include a different readme.txt file
which gives Hannes von Döhren credit and list changes in that different
file)
- this CC license says it is the only set of terms for licensing this
work under this CC license (sections 4a and 8e). My reading of these
sections say that any other terms (such as those listed in the
Readme.txt file) do not have to be followed.
Looking at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/HVD_Comic_Serif_fonts it seems
that Fedora considers CC BY 3.0 unported to be the only operative
license on this font. But how has Fedora determined that this
Readme.txt file can be ignored? I looked through the mailing list
archives for this list and found no discussion referring to this font.
Has anyone contacted Hannes von Döhren about this?
Thanks.
12 years, 9 months
Fwd: Re: License questions about HVD Comic Serif Pro Font
by Tom Callaway
Looks like the licensing confusion was an accidental oversight.
~tom
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: License questions about HVD Comic Serif Pro Font
Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2010 11:01:30 +0100
From: Hannes von Döhren <hannes(a)hvdfonts.de>
To: Tom Callaway <tcallawa(a)redhat.com>
Hi Tom,
I am sorry for the confusion.
I changend the License from to textfile to the CCA 3.0
but it seems i forgot to delete the conflicting parts.
Thank you for your email. I will lchange this.
And: You can use the HVD Comic Serif and include it in Fedora, if you want.
Best regards,
Hannes
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HVD Fonts
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Hannes von Döhren
Schillerstraße 34
10627 Berlin/Germany
T: +49 (0)173 357 93 76
hannes(a)hvdfonts.com <mailto:hannes@hvdfonts.com>
www.hvdfonts.com
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Am 20.12.2010 um 19:29 schrieb Tom Callaway:
> Hannes von Döhren (who whomever at HVD Fonts receives this email),
>
> Recently, there has been interest in including the HVD Comic Serif Pro
> Font Family in Fedora (a popular distribution of Linux). One of the
> requirement for a Font to be included in Fedora is that it must be
> available under a Free License (a license that permits unrestricted use,
> modification, and distribution).
>
> Initially, it appeared that HVD Comic Serif Pro was under a Free
> License, specifically, the Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 Unported
> License.
>
> However, in the Readme.txt file included in the .zip file, the following
> terms are also listed:
>
>> This typeface may not be modified in any way unless it contains an
>> unmodified copy of this text file and attributes Hannes von Döhren in
>> the font metadata.
>
> and
>
>> Neither the Font Software nor any of its individual components,
>> in Original or Modified Versions, may be sold by itself. Original or
>> Modified Versions of the Font Software may be bundled, redistributed
>> and/or sold with any software, provided that each copy contains the
>> above copyright notice and this license
>
> Both of these restrictions conflict with the CC-Attribution license, and
> make the overall licensing terms Non-Free.
>
> Specifically, it is noteworthy that the CC-Attribution license requires
> attribution, so these additional terms are somewhat redundant.
>
> I would like to know if it would be possible for these additional terms
> found in Readme.txt can be waived or removed, so that we can include
> this font in Fedora.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tom Callaway
>
> ==
> Fedora Project, Legal
12 years, 11 months
aajohan-comfortaa-fonts not in Fonts Group
by Luya Tshimbalanga
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or yum groupinfo command. Have newer fonts past Fedora 13 similar issue?
If so, how to fix that problem?
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Luya Tshimbalanga
Graphic & Web Designer
E: luya(a)fedoraproject.org
W: http://www.thefinalzone.net
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12 years, 11 months
Re: [Fwd: Khmer Unicode not working on Fedora 14]
by Michal Nowak
----- "Nicolas Mailhot" <nicolas.mailhot(a)laposte.net> wrote:
> ------------------------------ Message original
> ------------------------------
> Objet: Khmer Unicode not working on Fedora 14
> De: "Dith Dayann - IT Manager" <itm(a)hoteldelapaixangkor.com>
>
>
> Dear Fedora Fonts Owner,
>
> Greeting from Siem Reap, Cambodia!
>
> I am a new fedora 14 user. I have problem with Khmer
> font(Unicode).When
> I change country to Cambodia the keyboard layout do not show any
> character.
>
> So, does fedora 14 support Khmer Unicode? ( In fedora 12 working
> well)
>
> Please check attached file for Screen shot while changing keyboard
> layout.
>
> Appreciate if you can help.
>
> Best Regards
Hi Siem Reap -
I have just tested KhmerOS fonts we ship with Rawhide and they work as expected.
I tested Character Map and Khmer Wikipedia in Firefox, I also started GNOME
with "Central Khmer" language option in GDM and I certainly can see some
labels in Khmer.
When I am at home I'll check how F-14 is doing. That also maybe problem with
that application on your screenshot. I suggest you try to setup Khmer in GDM
tell us what's the behavior.
Michal
12 years, 12 months
[Fwd: Khmer Unicode not working on Fedora 14]
by Nicolas Mailhot
------------------------------ Message original ------------------------------
Objet: Khmer Unicode not working on Fedora 14
De: "Dith Dayann - IT Manager" <itm(a)hoteldelapaixangkor.com>
Dear Fedora Fonts Owner,
Greeting from Siem Reap, Cambodia!
I am a new fedora 14 user. I have problem with Khmer font(Unicode).When
I change country to Cambodia the keyboard layout do not show any character.
So, does fedora 14 support Khmer Unicode? ( In fedora 12 working well)
Please check attached file for Screen shot while changing keyboard layout.
Appreciate if you can help.
Best Regards
--
Dith Dayann
I.T. Manager
Mobile: +855 (0)99 999911
itm(a)hoteldelapaixangkor.com
12 years, 12 months
