Hi,
I've created status pages[1] for certain releases which indicates if the result may potentially be not desired or not. also comparison pages[2] between releases to see what fonts has been changed by a release. so we can see if any unexpected changes is made or not.
For the point what I would encourge you to check, the green color means the result was expected, at least from fontconfig config files font packages has. if that's not what you expect, you should file a bug against font packages. the orange color means the result may potentially be wrong or fell back to other font because of missing proper config file etc. we should fix that.
[1]... https://tagoh.fedorapeople.org/fonts/status/ [2]... https://tagoh.fedorapeople.org/fonts/diff/
HTH,
Hi Akira,
On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 3:45 PM Akira TAGOH wrote:
For the point what I would encourge you to check, the green color means the result was expected, at least from fontconfig config files font packages has. if that's not what you expect, you should file a bug against font packages. the orange color means the result may potentially be wrong or fell back to other font because of missing proper config file etc. we should fix that.
I was expecting to find `Rachana' in place of serif font for language Malayalam. We have the fontconfig file in place [1] and the output of [2] is also as expected. Any ideas why the serif font is also shown as Meera instead [3]?
[1] https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/smc-fonts/blob/master/f/65-0-smc-rachana.... [2] $ fc-match "serif:lang=ml" Rachana-Regular.ttf: "Rachana" "Regular" [3] https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/smc-fonts/blob/master/f/65-0-smc-meera.co...
-- Regards, Rajeesh
Hi,
Thank you for the comment. that is because smc-rachana-fonts is marked as optional in @fonts group at comps[1]. if that isn't expected behavior, please submit a PR against fedora-comps to correct. also, apparently Meera is substituted as serif in 65-nonlatin.conf. if this is wrong too, we need to correct it. please let me know.
Regards,
[1] https://pagure.io/fedora-comps/blob/master/f/comps-f29.xml.in#_2374
On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 8:39 PM Rajeesh K V rajeeshknambiar@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Akira,
On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 3:45 PM Akira TAGOH wrote:
For the point what I would encourge you to check, the green color means the result was expected, at least from fontconfig config files font packages has. if that's not what you expect, you should file a bug against font packages. the orange color means the result may potentially be wrong or fell back to other font because of missing proper config file etc. we should fix that.
I was expecting to find `Rachana' in place of serif font for language Malayalam. We have the fontconfig file in place [1] and the output of [2] is also as expected. Any ideas why the serif font is also shown as Meera instead [3]?
[1] https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/smc-fonts/blob/master/f/65-0-smc-rachana.... [2] $ fc-match "serif:lang=ml" Rachana-Regular.ttf: "Rachana" "Regular" [3] https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/smc-fonts/blob/master/f/65-0-smc-meera.co...
-- Regards, Rajeesh
On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 5:49 PM Akira TAGOH wrote:
Thank you for the comment. that is because smc-rachana-fonts is marked as optional in @fonts group at comps[1]. if that isn't expected behavior, please submit a PR against fedora-comps to correct.
Meera is included as default font for Malayalam, so we can leave Rachana as optional.
also, apparently Meera is substituted as serif in 65-nonlatin.conf. if this is wrong too, we need to correct it. please let me know.
Indeed, it would be correct to mark Rachana as preferred serif in place of Meera in 65-nonlatin.conf. Should I raise a bug?
Regards,
[1] https://pagure.io/fedora-comps/blob/master/f/comps-f29.xml.in#_2374
On Fri, Nov 9, 2018 at 2:26 AM Rajeesh K V rajeeshknambiar@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 5:49 PM Akira TAGOH wrote:
Thank you for the comment. that is because smc-rachana-fonts is marked as optional in @fonts group at comps[1]. if that isn't expected behavior, please submit a PR against fedora-comps to correct.
Meera is included as default font for Malayalam, so we can leave Rachana as optional.
Hm, then we can't see Rachana as default serif font for Malayalam until one installs it though.
also, apparently Meera is substituted as serif in 65-nonlatin.conf. if this is wrong too, we need to correct it. please let me know.
Indeed, it would be correct to mark Rachana as preferred serif in place of Meera in 65-nonlatin.conf. Should I raise a bug?
Yes, please. but then Meera as serif at the line of Malayalam will be decorated with the orange color because no desired serif font for Malayalam isn't installed. if Meera is acceptable as serif, we should keep it otherwise we should have Rachana as default in comps IMHO.
Regards,
[1] https://pagure.io/fedora-comps/blob/master/f/comps-f29.xml.in#_2374
-- Rajeesh
Thank you for the comment. that is because smc-rachana-fonts is marked as optional in @fonts group at comps[1]. if that isn't expected behavior, please submit a PR against fedora-comps to correct.
Meera is included as default font for Malayalam, so we can leave Rachana as optional.
Hm, then we can't see Rachana as default serif font for Malayalam until one installs it though.
Yes, indeed. This is desired, I assume, as there's already a default font for the language and users can install additional fonts if they like.
Indeed, it would be correct to mark Rachana as preferred serif in place of Meera in 65-nonlatin.conf. Should I raise a bug?
Yes, please. but then Meera as serif at the line of Malayalam will be decorated with the orange color because no desired serif font for Malayalam isn't installed. if Meera is acceptable as serif, we should keep it otherwise we should have Rachana as default in comps IMHO.
I would be happy to have Rachana also included in the default, but doesn't that cause issues with the default/minimal iso size and related concerns raised earlier in the devel list? What could be the best trade-off?
On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 5:27 PM Rajeesh K V rajeeshknambiar@gmail.com wrote:
Thank you for the comment. that is because smc-rachana-fonts is marked as optional in @fonts group at comps[1]. if that isn't expected behavior, please submit a PR against fedora-comps to correct.
Meera is included as default font for Malayalam, so we can leave Rachana as optional.
Hm, then we can't see Rachana as default serif font for Malayalam until one installs it though.
Yes, indeed. This is desired, I assume, as there's already a default font for the language and users can install additional fonts if they like.
Sure. alright.
Indeed, it would be correct to mark Rachana as preferred serif in place of Meera in 65-nonlatin.conf. Should I raise a bug?
Yes, please. but then Meera as serif at the line of Malayalam will be decorated with the orange color because no desired serif font for Malayalam isn't installed. if Meera is acceptable as serif, we should keep it otherwise we should have Rachana as default in comps IMHO.
I would be happy to have Rachana also included in the default, but doesn't that cause issues with the default/minimal iso size and related concerns raised earlier in the devel list? What could be the best trade-off?
You're right. that depends on the size and how important of serif we have for Malayalam I think. I'll leave this to you.
Anyway, please feel free to file a bug to update fontconfig config for Rachana.
Thanks,
-- Rajeesh
I would be happy to have Rachana also included in the default, but doesn't that cause issues with the default/minimal iso size and related concerns raised earlier in the devel list? What could be the best trade-off?
You're right. that depends on the size and how important of serif we have for Malayalam I think. I'll leave this to you.
Anyway, please feel free to file a bug to update fontconfig config for Rachana.
Sure, bug #1649184 filed. Thanks a lot.
On Fri, Nov 9, 2018, 11:12 Akira TAGOH <tagoh@redhat.com wrote:
On Fri, Nov 9, 2018 at 2:26 AM Rajeesh K V rajeeshknambiar@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 5:49 PM Akira TAGOH wrote:
Thank you for the comment. that is because smc-rachana-fonts is marked as optional in @fonts group at comps[1]. if that isn't expected behavior, please submit a PR against fedora-comps to correct.
Meera is included as default font for Malayalam, so we can leave Rachana as optional.
Hm, then we can't see Rachana as default serif font for Malayalam until one installs it though.
I think that is right behavior. In default install only Meera font is sufficient. When someone does $groupinstall or langpack malayalam install, supplementary fonts (rachana) should get installed.
also, apparently Meera is substituted as serif in 65-nonlatin.conf. if
this
is wrong too, we need to correct it. please let me know.
Indeed, it would be correct to mark Rachana as preferred serif in place of Meera in 65-nonlatin.conf. Should I raise a bug?
Yes, please. but then Meera as serif at the line of Malayalam will be decorated with the orange color because no desired serif font for Malayalam isn't installed. if Meera is acceptable as serif, we should keep it otherwise we should have Rachana as default in comps IMHO.
As said above IMHO for non malayalam locale Meera font is sufficient. We are following same for other languages as well.
Best Regards, Pravin
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Rajeesh K V