Re: freeIPA Status Debian/Ubuntu

[Alexander Bokovoy]

On ke, 09 joulu 2020, Marc Pearson | i-Neda Ltd via FreeIPA-users wrote:
> I think they're referring to this:
> https://www.cyberciti.biz/linux-news/centos-linux-8-will-end-in-2021-and-...
>
> Where it looks like CentOS is to become a rolling distro after 8, it's
> not going away though, and being rolling isn't a bad thing as most
> distro's are rolling now. 
I agree. There is another perspective to this. From FreeIPA upstream
point of view, CentOS is not a distribution we work on. We cannot fix
any bug in CentOS directly and there were plenty of cases in past two
years when CentOS rebuild of IPA components led to a non-working setup
for months, with no way to fix those.

With CentOS 8 Stream as a rolling distro, it will be built directly from
the sources and commits done in RHEL development once the packages pass
internal QE pre-verification. Aside from a practical meaning that my
team will be able to affect CentOS 8 Stream builds better than we have
it with CentOS 7 or 8, the testing of those bits in C8S would be
integral part of the RHEL QE process.

In addition to that,
https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/faq-centos-stream-updates gives a numer
of answers. In particular,
https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/faq-centos-stream-updates#Q10 says:

---------
In the first half of 2021, we will be introducing low- or no-cost
programs for a variety of use cases, including options for open source
projects and communities, partner ecosystems and an expansion of the use
cases of the Red Hat Enterprise Linux Developer subscription to better
serve the needs of systems administrators and partner developers. We’ll
share more details on these initiatives as they become available. For
those converting to RHEL, there is guidance available today for
converting from CentOS Linux to RHEL.
---------

I hope an improvement on the RHEL Developer subscription would allow to
run RHEL for those who uses CentOS for IPA workloads. It is not
accessible for that purpose right now but the change is coming,
according to what I have heard and read. I have no insight into what
exactly that means myself but I hope for a reasonable expansion of the
use cases. I did argue for that myself in past as many upstreams of the
packages included in RHEL and CentOS struggle to do upstream testing
with the same setup as in RHEL (modules, etc). Hopefully, it is an
answer to our requests too.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jonathan Aquilina via FreeIPA-users <freeipa-users(a)lists.fedorahosted.org&gt;
> Sent: 09 December 2020 11:54
> To: FreeIPA users list <freeipa-users(a)lists.fedorahosted.org&gt;
> Cc: Nico Maas <mail(a)nico-maas.de>; LHEUREUX Bernard
> <Bernard.LHEUREUX(a)nethys.be>; Jonathan Aquilina <jaquilina(a)eagleeyet.net&gt;
> Subject: [Freeipa-users] Re: freeIPA Status Debian/Ubuntu
>
> From what I understand Centos Stream is going to be a rolling distro.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: LHEUREUX Bernard via FreeIPA-users <freeipa-users(a)lists.fedorahosted.org&gt;
> Sent: 09 December 2020 12:51
> To: FreeIPA users list <freeipa-users(a)lists.fedorahosted.org&gt;
> Cc: Nico Maas <mail(a)nico-maas.de>; LHEUREUX Bernard
> <Bernard.LHEUREUX(a)nethys.be&gt;
> Subject: [Freeipa-users] Re: freeIPA Status Debian/Ubuntu
>
> Decline of CentOS ???
>
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Nico Maas via FreeIPA-users <freeipa-users(a)lists.fedorahosted.org&gt;
> Envoyé : mercredi 9 décembre 2020 12:30
> À : freeipa-users(a)lists.fedorahosted.org
> Cc : Nico Maas <mail(a)nico-maas.de&gt;
> Objet : [Freeipa-users] freeIPA Status Debian/Ubuntu
>
> Hello there,
>
> with the decline of CentOS I need to migrate away from CentOS 8 to something different.
> I just wanted to ask how currently the status of the Debian or Ubuntu versions of freeIPA
> is - and if there is any possibility to migrate freeIPA installation / "backup and
> restore"?
>
> Best regards,
>
> Nico
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/ Alexander Bokovoy
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Red Hat Limited, Finland