Track notes:
Steven Parrish agreed to update the wiki to make sure that teacher names were listed next to each session in the pre-set tracks. That way we can ping them to ensure that they link now-ish to information about what they'll cover. I would like to avoid improvisation or slides made up the night before, and that seems fully in keeping with our expectations for funding people's travel to FUDCon.
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We need to think about setting aside time for our friends in Toronto at Red Hat, who so rarely get to present at a FUDCon because of the travel requirement. I'd like Andrew Overholt to help us pick 3-4 talks that we can establish in this set-aside, to ensure that there's a good sampling of the cool work being done there. I'd like to guarantee each one a spot at the BarCamp. They need not be put in a specific room or time slot until we make the schedule for the rest of the BarCamp.
Andrew, please make sure that the presenters are there Saturday morning to pitch their talks (or have a proxy), and tell them to make sure their pitches are winning ones!
On Tuesday 24 November 2009 18:06:13 Paul W. Frields wrote:
Track notes:
Steven Parrish agreed to update the wiki to make sure that teacher names were listed next to each session in the pre-set tracks. That way we can ping them to ensure that they link now-ish to information about what they'll cover. I would like to avoid improvisation or slides made up the night before, and that seems fully in keeping with our expectations for funding people's travel to FUDCon.
We need to think about setting aside time for our friends in Toronto at Red Hat, who so rarely get to present at a FUDCon because of the travel requirement. I'd like Andrew Overholt to help us pick 3-4 talks that we can establish in this set-aside, to ensure that there's a good sampling of the cool work being done there. I'd like to guarantee each one a spot at the BarCamp. They need not be put in a specific room or time slot until we make the schedule for the rest of the BarCamp.
Andrew, please make sure that the presenters are there Saturday morning to pitch their talks (or have a proxy), and tell them to make sure their pitches are winning ones!
On this note there are 3 proposed talks for the tracks that are in need of instructors.
For the users track:
Configuring Fedora Networking Sound in Fedora
For the contributors track:
How to participate in test days
If anyone from YYZ RedHat would like to cover one of these topics or propose an alternate that would be great. Just let me know.
Steven
On Tue, 2009-11-24 at 19:56 -0500, Steven M. Parrish wrote:
On this note there are 3 proposed talks for the tracks that are in need of instructors.
For the users track:
Configuring Fedora Networking Sound in Fedora
For the contributors track:
How to participate in test days
If anyone from YYZ RedHat would like to cover one of these topics or propose an alternate that would be great. Just let me know.
Steven
I'd intended my proposed LVM talk to be user-track, and would be glad to sub it for any of these if no one steps up (I'll probably drop it otherwise).
-Chris
Chris IMO we should just go ahead and drop the "sound in fedora" session and put your lvm talk in it's place.
Steven
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On Nov 24, 2009, at 20:03, Chris Tyler ctyler@fedoraproject.org wrote:
On Tue, 2009-11-24 at 19:56 -0500, Steven M. Parrish wrote:
On this note there are 3 proposed talks for the tracks that are in need of instructors.
For the users track:
Configuring Fedora Networking Sound in Fedora
For the contributors track:
How to participate in test days
If anyone from YYZ RedHat would like to cover one of these topics or propose an alternate that would be great. Just let me know.
Steven
I'd intended my proposed LVM talk to be user-track, and would be glad to sub it for any of these if no one steps up (I'll probably drop it otherwise).
-Chris
* Paul W. Frields stickster@gmail.com [2009-11-24 18:06]:
Andrew, please make sure that the presenters are there Saturday morning to pitch their talks (or have a proxy), and tell them to make sure their pitches are winning ones!
Done.
Andrew
Hi,
There appear to be 7 talks proposed by Toronto Red Hatters and I've been in contact with all of the potential presenters:
- AMQP -- Rajith Attapattu - OpenJDK -- Deepak Bhole - systemtap for users/admins* -- Frank Eigler, Will Cohen, Mark Wielaard - systemtap for developers/packagers* -- Frank Eigler, Will Cohen, Mark Wielaard - Fonts, text stack, HarfBuzz -- Behdad Esfahbod - Eclipse + SystemTap -- Roland Grunberg, Charley Wang - Eclipse general -- me - gdb -- Sami Wagiaalla
* 2 co-presenters not from Toronto in case that matters
How shall we decide which ones get spots in a reserved room? FWIW, I've told them all that they'll need to pitch their talks either way.
Andrew
Thanks Andrew,
I checked the event page to get a general feeling of what people want to talk about and hear about. As a result, I want to retract my proposal in favor of the other proposals.
Cheers, behdad
On 12/01/2009 05:11 PM, Andrew Overholt wrote:
Hi,
There appear to be 7 talks proposed by Toronto Red Hatters and I've been in contact with all of the potential presenters:
- AMQP -- Rajith Attapattu
- OpenJDK -- Deepak Bhole
- systemtap for users/admins* -- Frank Eigler, Will Cohen, Mark Wielaard
- systemtap for developers/packagers* -- Frank Eigler, Will Cohen, Mark Wielaard
- Fonts, text stack, HarfBuzz -- Behdad Esfahbod
- Eclipse + SystemTap -- Roland Grunberg, Charley Wang
- Eclipse general -- me
- gdb -- Sami Wagiaalla
- 2 co-presenters not from Toronto in case that matters
How shall we decide which ones get spots in a reserved room? FWIW, I've told them all that they'll need to pitch their talks either way.
Andrew
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On 12/01/2009 05:19 PM, Andrew Overholt wrote:
I checked the event page to get a general feeling of what people want to talk about and hear about. As a result, I want to retract my proposal in favor of the other proposals.
Oh, I thought yours was unique and interesting :)
It's less user-oriented though. It's a great GUADEC kind of talk, not sure about FUDCon. Then again, I've only been to one FUDCon before. I'll leave it to the rest of you guys.
Ok, I have an idea now: I can taylor it to be less about HarfBuzz and more about the State of Text Rendering paper I wrote a while ago. That can be illuminating for power users.
Cheers,
behdad
Andrew
* Behdad Esfahbod behdad@behdad.org [2009-12-01 17:23]:
On 12/01/2009 05:19 PM, Andrew Overholt wrote:
I checked the event page to get a general feeling of what people want to talk about and hear about. As a result, I want to retract my proposal in favor of the other proposals.
Oh, I thought yours was unique and interesting :)
It's less user-oriented though.
Not all FUDCon talks are/have to be user-oriented.
Ok, I have an idea now: I can taylor it to be less about HarfBuzz and more about the State of Text Rendering paper I wrote a while ago. That can be illuminating for power users.
Sounds cool. I hope you can still make it on Saturday and pitch it and see what the audience decides :)
Andrew
On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 05:26:53PM -0500, Andrew Overholt wrote:
- Behdad Esfahbod behdad@behdad.org [2009-12-01 17:23]:
On 12/01/2009 05:19 PM, Andrew Overholt wrote:
I checked the event page to get a general feeling of what people want to talk about and hear about. As a result, I want to retract my proposal in favor of the other proposals.
Oh, I thought yours was unique and interesting :)
It's less user-oriented though.
Not all FUDCon talks are/have to be user-oriented.
Ok, I have an idea now: I can taylor it to be less about HarfBuzz and more about the State of Text Rendering paper I wrote a while ago. That can be illuminating for power users.
Sounds cool. I hope you can still make it on Saturday and pitch it and see what the audience decides :)
Hi Andrew,
First, the speakers should pitch *all* of these talks, and may very well get a large audience for all of them, in which case we're in a good situation. :-) You don't lose anything by pitching a talk and having no one tally on it (saying "I think this is interesting"). Well, maybe you lose a bit of pride, but I think we free software people are hopefully used to trying regardless.
All these talks should go on the wiki now, if they're not there already:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Toronto_2009#Technical_sessions_-_Satu...
If Toronto is anything like normal FUDCons, there will be too many talks for too few rooms. It looks like we have 50 talks right now, with about 10 of those being user talks we're moving to dedicated rooms. That leaves 40 talks for only about 30 room-hours of space.
We can't just add rooms, because that often creates the problem where people can't get to the things they want because there's too much choice. So in my opinion, we should guarantee the three highest scoring talks space, and reserve a place for those talks.
If something happens that radically decreases contention for rooms, there really won't be a problem at all and we just add these to the BarCamp per normal.
I will plunge into more of the FUDCon details tonight and tomorrow -- I spent most of today in meetings and trying to get on top of my mountain of email from my vacation.
Paul
On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 03:57:04PM -0500, Andrew Overholt wrote:
Hi Paul,
I wasn't entirely sure this should go to the list but can easily send all/some of it there if you'd rather I did that.
- Paul W. Frields stickster@gmail.com [2009-11-24 18:06]:
Andrew, please make sure that the presenters are there Saturday morning to pitch their talks (or have a proxy), and tell them to make sure their pitches are winning ones!
I've had a few people email me. There are 7 Red Hat talks -- not including hack fests -- from Toronto and Tools folks (who will be in town for a meeting/FUDCon) are:
- gdb -- Sami Wagiaalla (Toronto, Tools)
- OpenJDK -- Deepak Bhole (Toronto)
- AMQP -- Rajith Attapattu (Toronto)
- systemtap for users/admins -- Frank Eigler (Toronto, Tools), Will Cohen (RDU, Tools), Mark Wielaard (Netherlands, Tools)
- systemtap for developers/packagers -- Frank Eigler (Toronto, Tools), Will Cohen (RDU, Tools), Mark Wielaard (Netherlands, Tools)
- Eclipse stuff -- me, Roland Grunberg (Toronto, Tools), Charley Wang (Toronto, Tools)
- Fonts, text stack, HarfBuzz -- Behdad Esfahbod (Toronto)
I'd like your thoughts on how to pick ones we'll "guarantee" a spot to.
Andrew
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