APC Magazine's top 5 FOSS game list

[Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams]

http://apcmag.com/7890/best_open_source_games

Still missing 2 on there...

[Hans de Goede]

Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams wrote:
> http://apcmag.com/7890/best_open_source_games
>
> Still missing 2 on there...

Yes, smc is too much like the original (which is why its on the won't 
package list), ufoai has license issues with the datafiles, we could use 
autodownloader, but upstream is working on fixing the license issues, so 
I would reather wait for that.

Regards,

Hans

[Free Gamer]

On Jan 25, 2008 7:22 AM, Hans de Goede  wrote:
> Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams wrote:
> > http://apcmag.com/7890/best_open_source_games
> >
> > Still missing 2 on there...
>
> Yes, smc is too much like the original

At what point is the line drawn?  What about Freeciv which is a
near-remake of Civ2?

SMC has had data issues in the past and I suspect may still have a bit
of copied data in there which should be removed before inclusion is
considered.  But to label a clone/remake "too much like the original"?
 As long as nothing is copied directly, it's just another remake.
Surely the standard is already set (Freeciv etc).

- C

[Tom Callaway]

On Fri, 2008-01-25 at 13:07 +0000, Free Gamer wrote:
> On Jan 25, 2008 7:22 AM, Hans de Goede  wrote:
> > Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams wrote:
> > > http://apcmag.com/7890/best_open_source_games
> > >
> > > Still missing 2 on there...
> >
> > Yes, smc is too much like the original
>
> At what point is the line drawn?  What about Freeciv which is a
> near-remake of Civ2?
>
> SMC has had data issues in the past and I suspect may still have a bit
> of copied data in there which should be removed before inclusion is
> considered.  But to label a clone/remake "too much like the original"?
>  As long as nothing is copied directly, it's just another remake.
> Surely the standard is already set (Freeciv etc).

I drew the line, at SMC.

1. When you use the word "Maryo" in your name, you're blatantly
infringing on Nintendo's trademark. This is far worse than the "Freeciv"
"Civilization" situation.

2. Nintendo has the copyrights for the game character designs found in
the "Mario" series. SMC is using them without permission.

3. Nintendo aggressively goes after "clones", see "Great Giana Sisters".

So, to repeat what I've said in the past:

1. SMC would need to rename itself "Awesome Plumber Adventure" or
something non-infringing.
2. None of the artwork can reflect the copyrighted game character
designs from the Mario series. This would require a lot of artistic
creativity, but it is certainly possible.

or...

3. Get permission, in writing, from Nintendo, to use that name and their
copryighted game character designs.

~spot

[R Sanjith]

yeah seems like a valid explanation to me

rgds
sanjith

On Jan 25, 2008 9:16 PM, Tom spot Callaway  wrote:
> On Fri, 2008-01-25 at 13:07 +0000, Free Gamer wrote:
> > On Jan 25, 2008 7:22 AM, Hans de Goede  wrote:
> > > Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams wrote:
> > > > http://apcmag.com/7890/best_open_source_games
> > > >
> > > > Still missing 2 on there...
> > >
> > > Yes, smc is too much like the original
> >
> > At what point is the line drawn?  What about Freeciv which is a
> > near-remake of Civ2?
> >
> > SMC has had data issues in the past and I suspect may still have a bit
> > of copied data in there which should be removed before inclusion is
> > considered.  But to label a clone/remake "too much like the original"?
> >  As long as nothing is copied directly, it's just another remake.
> > Surely the standard is already set (Freeciv etc).
>
> I drew the line, at SMC.
> When you use the word "Maryo" in your name, you're blatantly
>
> infringing on Nintendo's trademark. This is far worse than the "Freeciv"
> "Civilization" situation.
> Nintendo has the copyrights for the game character designs found in
>
> the "Mario" series. SMC is using them without permission.
> Nintendo aggressively goes after "clones", see "Great Giana Sisters".
>
> So, to repeat what I've said in the past:
> SMC would need to rename itself "Awesome Plumber Adventure" or
>
> something non-infringing.
> 2. None of the artwork can reflect the copyrighted game character
> designs from the Mario series. This would require a lot of artistic
> creativity, but it is certainly possible.
>
> or...
> Get permission, in writing, from Nintendo, to use that name and their
>
> copryighted game character designs.
>
> ~spot
>
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[Free Gamer]

Indeed, good to know what the criteria is. :-)

- C

2008/1/25 R Sanjith :
> yeah seems like a valid explanation to me

[Jason L Tibbitts III]

> > > > > "RS" == R Sanjith  writes:

RS> yeah seems like a valid explanation to me rgds sanjith

Note that I discussed all of this with upstream when they asked if
their game could be included.

- J<