Trigger Rally 0.6.5 - licensing issues resolved

[Onsemeliot]

Hi together,

Trigger Rally has been listed on the Fedora wiki page for not being
included because of licensing reasons for quite some time. Since then we
did develop the game much further and we removed all non-free material.

So please do consider to include Trigger Rally 0.6.5 into Fedora!

https://sourceforge.net/projects/trigger-rally/

Unfortunately I am not that good with technical things, but please let
me know if I can help to get Trigger Rally into Fedora.

I don't know of any free 3D rally game that would make drifting more
fun. At the same time its low demand on the systems hardware makes it
very attractive to users with weaker systems.

So please don't hesitate to contact me if you are interested in adopting
the most recent release of Trigger Rally (it's from yesterday) into
Fedora!

Onsemeliot

[Justin W. Flory]

On 12/20/2016 01:53 PM, Onsemeliot wrote:
> Hi together,
>
> Trigger Rally has been listed on the Fedora wiki page for not being
> included because of licensing reasons for quite some time. Since then we
> did develop the game much further and we removed all non-free material.
>
> So please do consider to include Trigger Rally 0.6.5 into Fedora!
>
> https://sourceforge.net/projects/trigger-rally/
>
> Unfortunately I am not that good with technical things, but please let
> me know if I can help to get Trigger Rally into Fedora.
>
> I don't know of any free 3D rally game that would make drifting more
> fun. At the same time its low demand on the systems hardware makes it
> very attractive to users with weaker systems.
>
> So please don't hesitate to contact me if you are interested in adopting
> the most recent release of Trigger Rally (it's from yesterday) into
> Fedora!
>
> Onsemeliot

Hi Onsemeliot, thanks for reaching out here about Trigger Rally! This
would probably be the best list for you to post this announcement to
(even though I realize I am quite late to reply to this).

Have you had any luck getting any interest in finding a packager? If
not, perhaps circulating some mail on the general devel list could be
helpful too. That's a more active mailing list and perhaps someone there
might be interested in trying to package Trigger Rally.

Also, what wiki page did you find the reference about the licensing? If
the original issue was solved, we can update the wiki page and remove
mention of it being blocked in Fedora.

Thanks for reaching out here!

[Link Dupont]

On Fri, 2017-01-06 at 06:34 +0000, Justin W. Flory wrote:
> Also, what wiki page did you find the reference about the licensing?
> If
> the original issue was solved, we can update the wiki page and remove
> mention of it being blocked in Fedora.

Looks like it's listed on the SIG under "games we will NOT package".

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Games#List_of_games_we_will_NOT_pac
kage

[Justin W. Flory]

On 01/06/2017 01:42 AM, Link Dupont wrote:
> On Fri, 2017-01-06 at 06:34 +0000, Justin W. Flory wrote:
> > Also, what wiki page did you find the reference about the licensing?
> > If
> > the original issue was solved, we can update the wiki page and remove
> > mention of it being blocked in Fedora.
>
> Looks like it's listed on the SIG under "games we will NOT package".
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Games#List_of_games_we_will_NOT_pac
> kage

It was this way since the game used some non-free material, but if I
understood Onsemeliot's original email, this should no longer be an
issue because upstream removed the non-free content.

[Onsemeliot]

On Fri, 2017-01-06 at 07:09 +0000, Justin W. Flory wrote:
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Games#List_of_games_we_will_NOT_pac
> > kage
> It was this way since the game used some non-free material, but if I
> understood Onsemeliot's original email, this should no longer be an
> issue because upstream removed the non-free content.

Thank you for your replies. Yes this was the wiki entry I was referring
to. And the issue with the use of non-free images is resolved also. We
replaced everything with our own creations or freely licensed images. We
even added a comprehensive list with licensing information on all assets
used in our data folder to the Docs folder.

I will try my luck in the general development list too.

Cheers,
Onsemeliot

[Onsemeliot]

On Fri, 2017-01-06 at 07:09 +0000, Justin W. Flory wrote:
> if I understood Onsemeliot's original email, this should no longer be
> an issue because upstream removed the non-free content.

Yes, this was what I wanted to stress: We removed all non-free content
(and made many improvements).

Who can change the status?

Best
Onsemeliot

[Justin W. Flory]

On 01/10/2017 06:23 PM, Onsemeliot wrote:
> On Fri, 2017-01-06 at 07:09 +0000, Justin W. Flory wrote:
> > if I understood Onsemeliot's original email, this should no longer be
> > an issue because upstream removed the non-free content.
>
> Yes, this was what I wanted to stress: We removed all non-free content
> (and made many improvements).
>
> Who can change the status?
>
> Best
> Onsemeliot

Hey Onsemeliot, not sure if you got an answer here or not. I'm actually
unsure of what would have to be done to officially change the status.
But I think the best course of action would be to make a ticket for the
Fedora Packaging Committee.

https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/report/1

They're probably in the best position to advise here. And if they
aren't, then surely they will be able to point you in the right
direction. Here is the FPC wiki page too, for reference:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging_Committee

[Link Dupont]

On Thu, 2017-01-19 at 14:32 +0000, Justin W. Flory wrote:
> Hey Onsemeliot, not sure if you got an answer here or not. I'm
> actually
> unsure of what would have to be done to officially change the status.
> But I think the best course of action would be to make a ticket for
> the
> Fedora Packaging Committee.
>
> https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/report/1
>
> They're probably in the best position to advise here. And if they
> aren't, then surely they will be able to point you in the right
> direction. Here is the FPC wiki page too, for reference:
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging_Committee

If you can find a packager, flagging the package for legal review in
the review request bug could help too.

[Jason L Tibbitts III]

> > > > > "JWF" == Justin W Flory  writes:

JWF> Hey Onsemeliot, not sure if you got an answer here or not. I'm
JWF> actually unsure of what would have to be done to officially change
JWF> the status.

I'm not aware that we have anything like an "official" status in any
case.  There's just stuff that can be packaged and stuff that can't.
The wiki page only reflects the status at the particular time of the
last edit.

Anyway, I did a little wiki editing.

JWF> But I think the best course of action would be to make a ticket for
JWF> the Fedora Packaging Committee.

I'm not sure what FPC could help with here.  It wasn't involved in any
determination about whether this game could be packaged.  If the
objectionable content is truly gone (I haven't checked myself) then
anyone is free to package it.  If the reviewer has questions about the
content which remains, they can block the FE-Legal so that someone who
knows about that kind of thing can have a look.

- J<

[Onsemeliot]

On Thu, 2017-01-19 at 12:58 -0600, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote:
> Anyway, I did a little wiki editing.

Thanks, this is great, Jason.
> If the objectionable content is truly gone (I haven't checked myself)
> then anyone is free to package it.  If the reviewer has questions about
> the content which remains, they can block the FE-Legal so that someone
> who knows about that kind of thing can have a look.

I am willing to resolve any issues still found. (At least if I am
capable of doing so.)

Thanks you for your feedbacks,
Onsemeliot

[Brigham Keys, Esq.]

Hey,

I am wiling to take up packing this game if no one else has risen to
the occasion.

On 01/19/2017 02:40 PM, Onsemeliot wrote:
> On Thu, 2017-01-19 at 12:58 -0600, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote:
> > Anyway, I did a little wiki editing.
>
> Thanks, this is great, Jason.
> > If the objectionable content is truly gone (I haven't checked myself)
> > then anyone is free to package it.  If the reviewer has questions about
> > the content which remains, they can block the FE-Legal so that someone
> > who knows about that kind of thing can have a look.
>
> I am willing to resolve any issues still found. (At least if I am
> capable of doing so.)
>
> Thanks you for your feedbacks,
> Onsemeliot
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[Onsemeliot]

On Thu, 2017-01-19 at 18:39 -0500, Brigham Keys, Esq. wrote:
> I am wiling to take up packing this game if no one else has risen to
> the occasion.

This is fantastic. For convenience I post the link again:

https://sourceforge.net/projects/trigger-rally/

Please let me know if you need anything else.

Best
Onsemeliot

[Brigham Keys, Esq.]

Alright, I still have not managed to package anything and this will be
possibly my second package (I am working on my first). So it might take
some time for me to complete but it will get done at some point. I will
make sure to keep in touch. I played the game a bit so I still have the
source code on my computer I am always lurking on this list, so I see
all :b if you feel like I am taking too long with this feel free to send
me an email bugging me to do it, sometimes I need a nudge to get things
done.

On 01/20/2017 02:09 AM, Onsemeliot wrote:
> On Thu, 2017-01-19 at 18:39 -0500, Brigham Keys, Esq. wrote:
> > I am wiling to take up packing this game if no one else has risen to
> > the occasion.
>
> This is fantastic. For convenience I post the link again:
>
> https://sourceforge.net/projects/trigger-rally/
>
> Please let me know if you need anything else.
>
> Best
> Onsemeliot
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[Link Dupont]

I'm the package maintainer of freeorion and endless-sky. If you get
stuck with any package-related problems, I'm happy to help.

~link

On Fri, 2017-01-20 at 02:20 -0500, Brigham Keys, Esq. wrote:
> Alright, I still have not managed to package anything and this will
> be possibly my second package (I am working on my first). So it might
> take some time for me to complete but it will get done at some point.
> I will make sure to keep in touch. I played the game a bit so I still
> have the source code on my computer I am always lurking on this list,
> so I see all :b if you feel like I am taking too long with this feel
> free to send me an email bugging me to do it, sometimes I need a
> nudge to get things done.
>
> On 01/20/2017 02:09 AM, Onsemeliot wrote:
> > On Thu, 2017-01-19 at 18:39 -0500, Brigham Keys, Esq. wrote:
> > > I am wiling to take up packing this game if no one else has risen
> > > to
> > > the occasion.
> >
> > This is fantastic. For convenience I post the link again:
> >
> > https://sourceforge.net/projects/trigger-rally/
> >
> > Please let me know if you need anything else.
> >
> > Best
> > Onsemeliot
> > _______________________________________________
> > Fedora Games SIG mailing list -- [e-mail]
> > To unsubscribe send an email to [e-mail]
>
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