Games spin, minor configuration changes

[Rahul Sundaram]

Hi

I have been working on getting the games spin through release 
engineering and Fedora Board for approval.

https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-advisory-board/2007-September/msg0008...

The new process to follow is described in

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/CustomSpins

I have changed the configuration file to inherit the base desktop 
configuration as Jeremy Katz (CC'ed) has suggested to do that before 
getting board approval on this spin.

I configuration the repo to point to a local copy of rawhide instead of 
a mirror list and get this

http://pastebin.ca/723478

Pointing to the mirror list does not result in this problem. I would 
appreciate if anyone could test and let me know if this configuration 
works for you.

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Games/GamesLive

Rahul

[Hans de Goede]

Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> Hi
>
> I have been working on getting the games spin through release 
> engineering and Fedora Board for approval.
>
> https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-advisory-board/2007-September/msg0008...
>
> The new process to follow is described in
>
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/CustomSpins
>
> I have changed the configuration file to inherit the base desktop 
> configuration as Jeremy Katz (CC'ed) has suggested to do that before 
> getting board approval on this spin.

Good!
> I configuration the repo to point to a local copy of rawhide instead of 
> a mirror list and get this
>
> http://pastebin.ca/723478
>
> Pointing to the mirror list does not result in this problem. I would 
> appreciate if anyone could test and let me know if this configuration 
> works for you.
>
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Games/GamesLive

Hmm, when first building a test DVD based on the .ks file in the wiki I got a 
python backtrace too, updating everything to the latest rawhide versions (I was 
already on rawhide) solved this. Alternatively, did you consider that this 
might be cause by a partial synced mirror, thus one where the meta data and the 
actual packages are out of sync? Maybe a simple retry will make the problem go 
away?

Regards,

Hans

[Rahul Sundaram]

Hans de Goede wrote:
> Hmm, when first building a test DVD based on the .ks file in the wiki I 
> got a python backtrace too, updating everything to the latest rawhide 
> versions (I was already on rawhide) solved this. Alternatively, did you 
> consider that this might be cause by a partial synced mirror, thus one 
> where the meta data and the actual packages are out of sync? Maybe a 
> simple retry will make the problem go away?

I have tried again a few times without success but the local rawhide 
copy is a few days old which could be be a reason. I only have more 
bandwidth at office and today is a holiday locally. If this just 
disappears with the latest rawhide, I don't have to worry about this.

Rahul

[Hans de Goede]

Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> Hans de Goede wrote:
> > Hmm, when first building a test DVD based on the .ks file in the wiki 
> > I got a python backtrace too, updating everything to the latest 
> > rawhide versions (I was already on rawhide) solved this. 
> > Alternatively, did you consider that this might be cause by a partial 
> > synced mirror, thus one where the meta data and the actual packages 
> > are out of sync? Maybe a simple retry will make the problem go away?
>
> I have tried again a few times without success but the local rawhide 
> copy is a few days old which could be be a reason. I only have more 
> bandwidth at office and today is a holiday locally. If this just 
> disappears with the latest rawhide, I don't have to worry about this.

I'm not saying it will disappear, it might. Notice that I'm not talking about 
using rawhide as a source to compose from, but also as a platform on which the 
compising is happening.

Regards,

Hans

[Rahul Sundaram]

Hans de Goede wrote:
> I'm not saying it will disappear, it might. Notice that I'm not talking 
> about using rawhide as a source to compose from, but also as a platform 
> on which the compising is happening.

Right. I am trying to build using a rawhide box with all the latest 
updates but the mirror I am using is about three days old. Let me know 
if the configuration listed in the wiki works for you.

Rahul

[Hans de Goede]

Hi All,

Its no longer clear to me where the master copy of the .ks file is, so I'm just 
sending changes here. I think we need a VCS to hold the .ks file.

As a result from the discussion about autodownloader games I would like to 
suggest the addition of the following games to the list (traditional, small):
quake3
vavoom
rott-shareware

Also I've recently imported:
londonlaw

Last, if we are willing to take the 50Mb hit for kdelibs (we already have qt 
and arts due to some dep issues I'm working on resolving) these would be good 
to have too:
taxipilot
ksirk

Also I just got freecol approved, I'll build it as soon as its CVS creation is 
done:
freecol

Last I would like to see bolzplatz2006 included (fun comic style 3d football 
game), can someone help reviewing it? :
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=283721

Thanks & Regards,

Hans

[Christopher Stone]

On 10/3/07, Hans de Goede  wrote:
> Last, if we are willing to take the 50Mb hit for kdelibs (we already have qt
> and arts due to some dep issues I'm working on resolving) these would be good
> to have too:
> taxipilot
> ksirk

poker2d-kde can be added also if kdelibs is added, it should only be a
few extra kilobytes.

I would be saddened if gimp is added and kde games are not. :(

[Rahul Sundaram]

Christopher Stone wrote:
> poker2d-kde can be added also if kdelibs is added, it should only be a
> few extra kilobytes.
>
> I would be saddened if gimp is added and kde games are not. :(

Note that inheriting a configuration does not mean that you are struck 
with the package set. If there is strong notions on dropping some 
packages, you can still remove packages after inheriting them from 
existing kickstart files.

-<packagename>

That's it.

Rahul

[Hans de Goede]

Christopher Stone wrote:
> On 10/3/07, Hans de Goede  wrote:
> > Last, if we are willing to take the 50Mb hit for kdelibs (we already have qt
> > and arts due to some dep issues I'm working on resolving) these would be good
> > to have too:
> > taxipilot
> > ksirk
>
> poker2d-kde can be added also if kdelibs is added, it should only be a
> few extra kilobytes.
>
> I would be saddened if gimp is added and kde games are not. :(

Okay, I've added a kde based games section to the .ks file and populated it with:
ksirk
taxipilot
poker2d-kde

Regards,

Hans

[Jeremy Katz]

On Wed, 2007-10-03 at 02:19 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> I have changed the configuration file to inherit the base desktop 
> configuration as Jeremy Katz (CC'ed) has suggested to do that before 
> getting board approval on this spin.

So, some suggestions after looking at what you've got now
* Using base-desktop vs desktop -- while base-desktop is good for KDE or
XFCE, it probably makes more sense for something like the games spin to
be based on the main desktop config
* Then, the %packages section boils down to really just the games you're
adding on top
* Given the size you're already going to be at, I don't think that
removing printing, evolution and the gimp helps that much...  you might
as well include them and then it's a fully functional desktop + the set
of games.  The delta is going to be on the order of maybe 50 megs.
* The %post section will then just get inherited from the desktop config
and not need replication of things like the avahi hack
> I configuration the repo to point to a local copy of rawhide instead of 
> a mirror list and get this
>
> http://pastebin.ca/723478

I thought this was fixed up in rawhide yum -- basically, you're hitting
an error and in the error teardown path, there's a yum bug.  But that
should be fixed in yum 3.2.5-3 or later.  Unless I didn't backport the
full fix from yum.git.

Anyway, kicked off an image with your config just to see what happens,
but I have to catch the bus in ~ 15 minutes and I suspect it won't be
done by then.  I'll try to check on it when I get home, though.

Jeremy

[Rahul Sundaram]

Jeremy Katz wrote:
> On Wed, 2007-10-03 at 02:19 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> > I have changed the configuration file to inherit the base desktop 
> > configuration as Jeremy Katz (CC'ed) has suggested to do that before 
> > getting board approval on this spin.
>
> So, some suggestions after looking at what you've got now
> Using base-desktop vs desktop -- while base-desktop is good for KDE or
>
> XFCE, it probably makes more sense for something like the games spin to
> be based on the main desktop config

I thought about that before too. You are right. I have done that change now.
> Anyway, kicked off an image with your config just to see what happens,
> but I have to catch the bus in ~ 15 minutes and I suspect it won't be
> done by then.  I'll try to check on it when I get home, though.

Thanks Jeremy. Appreciate the help.

Rahul

[Jeremy Katz]

On Wed, 2007-10-03 at 03:08 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> > Anyway, kicked off an image with your config just to see what happens,
> > but I have to catch the bus in ~ 15 minutes and I suspect it won't be
> > done by then.  I'll try to check on it when I get home, though.
>
> Thanks Jeremy. Appreciate the help.

Mostly worked -- needed to add a larger rootfs.  I've updated the config
on the wiki appropriately.

Jeremy