Things have been moving slowly getting ready for rawhide testing. I wanted to relayout my disks and get both rawhide and F10 resinstalled. There is still more more to do with this. I expect to be testing on rawhide on Wednesday the 31st.
The first thing I will be doing after I have a working rawhide install is confirming fixes for the dependencies bugs that I filed and have new updates. I think most of them have been fixed. In one case the maintainer's key doesn't work any more and they don't know how to proceed. (This is bug 475919, if someone here can help them out.)
Assuming no new problems show up, I'll move on to working on extending my patches to livecd-tools for switching to udf when the squashfs file system reaches 4GiB. I am off this week, so I think I'll have a good chance of having something (a patch for livecd-tools) reviewable by the end of this weekend (the 4th).
The Spins SIG still needs to work on what the policy will be for Spins. (So that the Feature Wrangler can properly evaluate the feature.) I don't expect this to be a problem, but if something ends up needing to absolutely done by the alpha there could be a problem.
If the spin's squashfs file system still fits under 4GiB, then I don't think should be a problem having a spin available for the alpha. (Though I am not sure how that is going to work procedurely.) If it is over 4GiB, then it will depend on having an update applied to livecd-tools before the alpha. I may not have an acceptable patch by that time. This potentially could also hit a policy issue regarding whether or not spins can use udf even if they still fit on a DVD as that may limit the hardware they can be used on. (I wouldn't expect their to be many systems that can boot off a DVD, that couldn't also use udf.)
I have finshed changing the partition layout on my home machine, so that will be less of a distraction. I have both F10 and F11 instances available for testing.
I didn't get as far as I would have liked with the livecd-creator patches. I have a pretty good idea how I want to implement things and I just need to figure out a little bit of python in order to be able to fully test my approach (only on the i686 arch). This will probably be done in the next day or two. If it works, I'll ask to get the changes committed in rawhide.
The squashfs image size is now going just over 4 GiB on both F10 and F11. So either we need to make some cuts or the livecd-creator changes need to be accepted and the Spins group OK using UDF for a DVD Spin that will still fit on a DVD.
I am still seeing install errors for 3 games. 1 is fixed in current rawhide and will be removed from the list tonight. One is a post install error that probably isn't a problem other than the error message itself. The last is a preinstall script failure and my actually cause a problem.
I am also still seeing an install error for the solar plugin.
A new game "spring" is being reviewed. If this is a good game to add to the spin, someone should advocate for it once it is available in rawhide.
There were some font dependency issues in rawhide for about a week, but I am pretty sure this has been fixed for all of the games in the spin now.
I don't believe the feature wrangler has had a chance to deal with the games feature request yet. There is a dependency on the Spins SIG having a policy in place to use for F11. So I don't expect the Games Spin Feature to come up for approval at the next FESCO meeting (the 7th). I saw some hints that there may be some progress with the policy at Fudcon, so maybe it will get done in the next couple of weeks.
I think there is still a reasonable chance to get the livecd-creator changes ready in time to allow for a games spin to be built for the alpha release without cutting anything out. But it is getting very close, as changing it right before the alpha release wouldn't be a good idea.
Bruno Wolff III wrote:
I have finshed changing the partition layout on my home machine, so that will be less of a distraction. I have both F10 and F11 instances available for testing.
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I just wanted to say I think what you are doing is awesome and that I'm fully reading each and every status report (I don't want you to think the silence means no one cares).
Keep up the good work and let me know if / when you need any testing (or other help)!
Regards,
Hans
Bruno Wolff III wrote: [...]
I am still seeing install errors for 3 games. 1 is fixed in current rawhide and will be removed from the list tonight. One is a post install error that probably isn't a problem other than the error message itself. The last is a preinstall script failure and my actually cause a problem.
Which games still give you install errors? Do you have BZ #'s for them?
--Wart
On Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 11:37:04 -0800, Michael Thomas wart@kobold.org wrote:
Bruno Wolff III wrote: [...]
I am still seeing install errors for 3 games. 1 is fixed in current rawhide and will be removed from the list tonight. One is a post install error that probably isn't a problem other than the error message itself. The last is a preinstall script failure and my actually cause a problem.
Which games still give you install errors? Do you have BZ #'s for them?
nethack and nethack-vultures. The maintainer of nethack-vultures looked at the problem but has a problem with their key and doesn't know how to fix it and so can't do an update. My guess is that they didn't get a new key after the problem this past summer. nethack-vultures is also the package with the preinstall script issue, which I am worried might cause a real problem. (Don't worry about the entry for 'escape'. I am just leaving that until I verify the fix.)
I have links to all of the bugzilla's on the feature page: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/GamesSpin
"BW" == Bruno Wolff bruno@wolff.to writes:
BW> nethack and nethack-vultures. The maintainer of nethack-vultures BW> looked at the problem but has a problem with their key and doesn't BW> know how to fix it and so can't do an update.
Other folks can do that, you know. All someone needs to do is ask.
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On Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 20:49:06 -0600, Jason L Tibbitts III tibbs@math.uh.edu wrote:
"BW" == Bruno Wolff bruno@wolff.to writes:
BW> nethack and nethack-vultures. The maintainer of nethack-vultures BW> looked at the problem but has a problem with their key and doesn't BW> know how to fix it and so can't do an update.
Other folks can do that, you know. All someone needs to do is ask.
Consider this an official asking.
On Tue, Jan 06, 2009 at 07:01:15 -0600, Jason L Tibbitts III tibbs@math.uh.edu wrote:
"BW" == Bruno Wolff bruno@wolff.to writes:
BW> Consider this an official asking.
OK, maybe "all you need to do is ask and provide some details". I mean, I'd help if I could, but I don't have a clue what needs to be done.
Probably the best thing would be to help the maintainer update their key. (I think that is what is causing them not be able to make the changes.) Otherwise if you can apply the changes that would at least solve my problem. The bug (475919) has the changes needed for the spec file in it.
I have a patch to livecd-creator that switches to using udf when needed, but otherwise uses iso9660. The version posted to the RFE bug applies to F10 cleanly, but not F11. But if you play with it on F11 it's clear what to change.
I have asked to get this applied to F11, but I don't know if that will happen as I didn't get feedback on the approach yet, so the patch may need to be reworked.
I haven't asked for my changes to fedora-livedvd-games.ks to be applied yet, because they won't work without the updates to livecd-creator. If the change to livecd-creator is done I'll open a bug against spin-kickstarts to get that changed.
Currently there is a dependency problem with poker2d in F11 that stops the livecd-creator run. Since the maintainer should be getting daily messages about the problem, I wasn't planning on filing a bug about it.
I have some more testing for my proposed changes to livecd-creator to do and should get some coverage of another important case tonight.
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