[HyperKitty] #76: Provide mailto reply links

[HyperKitty]

#76: Provide mailto reply links
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Reporter:  iankelling   |      Owner:
    Type:  enhancement  |     Status:  new
Priority:  major        |  Milestone:  Beta version
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 I often end up at a list archive message and it is my first association
 with the list, and I want to reply. pipermail provides a very convenient
 mailto link to reply a message. I click the link and I'm in my email
 client replying. One click simplicity. I tried out the hyperkitty demo,
 and see that I can't reply without logging in. That is a regression in
 usability.

 Once I've logged in, I still don't get a mailto link, so I can't use my
 email client, and do all the things my email client allows. The first of
 which would be using a different email address than is associated with my
 fedora account. And there appears to be no list archive download, so there
 is no workaround. I'm forced to use a forum type software to reply to a
 mailing list. This is a major regression in functionality.

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Ticket URL: <https://fedorahosted.org/hyperkitty/ticket/76>
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The HyperKitty Django app provides a web interface to access GNU Mailman archives.

[HyperKitty]

#76: Provide mailto reply links
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Reporter:  iankelling   |       Owner:
    Type:  enhancement  |      Status:  new
Priority:  major        |   Milestone:  Beta version
 Version:               |  Resolution:
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Comment (by pingou):

>  This is a major regression in functionality. 
 I quite strongly disagree with this. I would agree if HyperKitty was meant
 to be a drop-in replacement of pipermail but it is not. HyperKitty
 provides a completely different way of browsing and interacting with
 archives. So no, it's not a regresion.

 However one could consider your demands as valid RFE.

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The HyperKitty Django app provides a web interface to access GNU Mailman archives.

[HyperKitty] #76: RFE: Provide mailto reply links (was: Provide mailto reply links)

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#76: RFE: Provide mailto reply links
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Reporter:  iankelling   |       Owner:
    Type:  enhancement  |      Status:  new
Priority:  major        |   Milestone:  Beta version
 Version:               |  Resolution:
Keywords:               |
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Comment (by iankelling):

 A mailing list supports interacting with it via an email client. Hypermail
 provides a web interface to interact. But people are still going to use
 email clients, and it will feel like a regression in functionality to
 users to not be able to use their email clients. I've changed the title to
 RFE.

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HyperKitty <http://mm3test.fedoraproject.org>
The HyperKitty Django app provides a web interface to access GNU Mailman archives.

[HyperKitty] #76: RFE: Provide mailto reply links

[HyperKitty]

#76: RFE: Provide mailto reply links
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Reporter:  iankelling   |       Owner:
    Type:  enhancement  |      Status:  new
Priority:  major        |   Milestone:  Beta version
 Version:               |  Resolution:
Keywords:               |
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Comment (by abompard):

 Hey Ian,
 I think there's a bit of misunderstanding here, mailman3 is still
 completely functional without !HyperKitty, its web archiving interface.
 You can use your email client if you prefer, and that's not going to
 change.
 Regarding the mailto links, the idea is to avoid email harvesting by
 spammers. If you want to reply with a particular address, just login to
 !HyperKitty with this address (using the Persona/BrowserID option) and it
 will work as you expect. Contrary to what you'd have with a mailto link,
 replying via !HyperKitty will preserve the "Reply-To" headers and thus not
 break the thread.
 The idea behind !HyperKitty is to allow email client users and webforum
 users to speak to each other via the list, and keep their preferred
 interface.
 As far as the "download list archive" feature, it's not in yet but
it's
 planned (it's a bit harder to do properly if we want to be scalable).
 Thanks for opening this RFE.

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Ticket URL: <https://fedorahosted.org/hyperkitty/ticket/76#comment:3>
HyperKitty <http://mm3test.fedoraproject.org>
The HyperKitty Django app provides a web interface to access GNU Mailman archives.

[HyperKitty] #76: RFE: Provide mailto reply links

[HyperKitty]

#76: RFE: Provide mailto reply links
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Reporter:  iankelling   |       Owner:
    Type:  enhancement  |      Status:  new
Priority:  major        |   Milestone:  Beta version
 Version:               |  Resolution:
Keywords:               |
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Comment (by iankelling):

>  I think there's a bit of misunderstanding 
 I don't
think there is on my side.

>  Regarding the mailto links, the idea is to avoid email harvesting by
 spammers.

 It is not necessary to abandon mailto links to achieve this. Some
 pipermail instances are configured to contain individual author's email
 addresses in the mailto links, and some do not. For example mediawiki
 mailing lists do not. Their mailto links reply only to the list with
 headers to not break the thread afaik. An example message and the mailto
 link it provides:
 http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/mediawiki-l/2013-December/042232.html,

mailto:mediawiki-l%40lists.wikimedia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMediaWiki-l%5D%20Translation%20Services%20do%20not%20start%3A%20now%20microsoft
 &In-Reply-To=%3C987A1562E74BC443B3C4D4A8F7EA658E2909196D%40AZ-
 FFEXMB04.global.avaya.com%3E.

>  If you want to reply with a particular address, just login to
> HyperKitty 
 with this address (using the Persona/BrowserID option) and it will work
as
 you expect.
 Yes, I was aware it was possible, I was just pointing out that it was much
 harder to do than with my email client.

>  The idea behind HyperKitty is to allow email client users and
> webforum 
 users to speak to each other via the list, and keep their preferred
 interface.
 This is great, but it not being achieved yet because email client users
 can't reply to messages in the archive using their email client. This RFE
 is aimed at fixing that.

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Ticket URL: <https://fedorahosted.org/hyperkitty/ticket/76#comment:4>
HyperKitty <http://mm3test.fedoraproject.org>
The HyperKitty Django app provides a web interface to access GNU Mailman archives.

[HyperKitty] #76: RFE: Provide mailto reply links

[HyperKitty]

#76: RFE: Provide mailto reply links
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Reporter:  iankelling   |       Owner:
    Type:  enhancement  |      Status:  closed
Priority:  major        |   Milestone:  Beta version
 Version:               |  Resolution:  fixed
Keywords:               |
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Changes (by abompard):

 * status:  new => closed
 * resolution:   => fixed


Comment:

 OK, I think I understand now. I've changed the code to create a mailto
 link when browsing anonymously, and added a link to reply using email
 software when logged in.
 This has been done in commit c9f469a4, and will be deployed with the next
 rebuild.
 Thanks for suggesting this and giving examples.

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The HyperKitty Django app provides a web interface to access GNU Mailman archives.