[Fedora-i18n-bugs] [Bug 734976] New: langpacks not pulled in by yum install libreoffice or groupinstall office

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Wednesday, 31 August 2011 Wed, 31 Aug '11

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Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. Summary: langpacks not pulled in by yum install libreoffice or groupinstall office https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=734976 Summary: langpacks not pulled in by yum install libreoffice or groupinstall office Product: Fedora Version: 16 Platform: Unspecified OS/Version: Linux Status: NEW Severity: medium Priority: unspecified Component: yum-langpacks AssignedTo: petersen(a)redhat.com ReportedBy: igor(a)projetofedora.org QAContact: extras-qa(a)fedoraproject.org CC: notting(a)redhat.com, petersen(a)redhat.com, james.antill(a)redhat.com, i18n-bugs(a)lists.fedoraproject.org Classification: Fedora Story Points: --- Type: --- Langpacks are not pulled when running "yum install libreoffice" neither running "yum groupinstall office". This also might be related to libreoffice packages since "yum install koffice-suite" works ok. Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable): yum-langpacks-0.2.2-1.fc16 libreoffice-3.4.3.1-1.fc16 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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Wednesday, 31 August Wed, 31 Aug

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New subject: [Fedora-i18n-bugs] [Bug 734976] langpacks not pulled in by yum install libreoffice or groupinstall office

Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=734976 Igor Pires Soares <igor(a)projetofedora.org> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Keywords| |i18n -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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New subject: [Fedora-i18n-bugs] [Bug 734976] langpacks not pulled in by yum install libreoffice or groupinstall office

Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=734976 --- Comment #1 from Bill Nottingham <notting(a)redhat.com> 2011-09-01 15:22:15 EDT --- Can you add the output of 'yum -d9 install libreoffice'? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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New subject: [Fedora-i18n-bugs] [Bug 734976] langpacks not pulled in by yum install libreoffice or groupinstall office

Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=734976 --- Comment #2 from Bill Nottingham <notting(a)redhat.com> 2011-09-01 15:24:30 EDT --- Note that I can't reproduce this here. yum remove libreoffice\* (because I have it installed) followed by: LANG=de_DE.UTF-8 yum install libreoffice correctly pulls in libreoffice-langpack-de. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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New subject: [Fedora-i18n-bugs] [Bug 734976] langpacks not pulled in by yum install libreoffice or groupinstall office

Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=734976 --- Comment #3 from Igor Pires Soares <igor(a)projetofedora.org> 2011-09-02 23:12:13 EDT --- Created attachment 521309 --> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=521309 yum output -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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New subject: [Fedora-i18n-bugs] [Bug 734976] langpacks not pulled in by yum install libreoffice or groupinstall office

Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=734976 --- Comment #4 from Igor Pires Soares <igor(a)projetofedora.org> 2011-09-02 23:22:01 EDT --- yum -d9 install libreoffice output is attached. I also have tried LANG=es_ES.UTF-8 yum install libreoffice and it did pull the langpack in, but running LANG=pt_BR.UTF-8 yum install libreoffice didn't (pt_BR was the current language anyway) Note that this is not language specific, though. Other people also reported the same issue during the I18N test week. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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Sunday, 4 September Sun, 4 Sep

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New subject: [Fedora-i18n-bugs] [Bug 734976] libreoffice-langpack-*-* not pulled in by yum install libreoffice

Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=734976 Jens Petersen <petersen(a)redhat.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |caolanm(a)redhat.com, | |dtardon(a)redhat.com, | |ltinkl(a)redhat.com Component|yum-langpacks |libreoffice AssignedTo|petersen(a)redhat.com |caolanm(a)redhat.com Summary|langpacks not pulled in by |libreoffice-langpack-*-* |yum install libreoffice or |not pulled in by yum |groupinstall office |install libreoffice --- Comment #5 from Jens Petersen <petersen(a)redhat.com> 2011-09-04 21:55:14 EDT --- It might be nice to verify what the other failed langs were, but my guess is that this is probably due to the "renaming" of the langpacks compared to oo.o's langpacks. I suspect this is also true for Fedora 15, no? eg openoffice.org-langpack-pt_BR became libreoffice-langpack-pt-BR, etc. More precisely a change from gettext to Java style locale naming. Fortituously since most langs just got truncated to two letters eg ja_JP, de_DE -> ja, de which is a good thing indeed anything and so were not affected. However for lang ambiguities/variants the Java names are now used: currently I think this only affects langpacks for Portuguese (pt-BR and pt-PT) and particularly Chinese (zh-Hans and zh-Hant). Being "lazy" I would prefer to see those libreoffice-langpack's provide libreoffice-langpack-pt_BR and libreoffice-langpack-zh_CN, etc. Otherwise we would have to special-case those languages in yum-langpacks which might lead to more yum overhead. I think this might be a second call for a Packaging Langpacks Naming Guideline! Reassigning to libreoffice to hear if they can please add such Provides. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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New subject: [Fedora-i18n-bugs] [Bug 734976] libreoffice-langpack-*-* not pulled in by yum install libreoffice

Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=734976 --- Comment #6 from Caolan McNamara <caolanm(a)redhat.com> 2011-09-05 05:25:23 EDT --- BCP-47 style FWIW (http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/bcp/bcp47.txt) rather than anything to do with Java. BCP-47 offers a relatively sane way to describe e.g. Serbian written in Latin script, sr-Latn or Sindhi written in Devanagari script, sd-Deva. I have some code to map existing glibc locales to best-fit tags http://people.redhat.com/caolanm/BCP47/ but its err... a work in progress. We can add some provides I suppose for now. If there is a move for langpack naming guidelines I'd like to know in order to make my own counter proposal ;-) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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New subject: [Fedora-i18n-bugs] [Bug 734976] libreoffice-langpack-*-* not pulled in by yum install libreoffice

Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=734976 Caolan McNamara <caolanm(a)redhat.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|caolanm(a)redhat.com |dtardon(a)redhat.com --- Comment #7 from Caolan McNamara <caolanm(a)redhat.com> 2011-09-05 06:15:34 EDT --- caolanm->dtardon: could you extend that langpack macro with another optional -P/-p or something argument to allow adding provides for pt_XX and zh_XX ? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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New subject: [Fedora-i18n-bugs] [Bug 734976] libreoffice-langpack-*-* not pulled in by yum install libreoffice

Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=734976 David Tardon <dtardon(a)redhat.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |ASSIGNED --- Comment #8 from David Tardon <dtardon(a)redhat.com> 2011-09-06 00:29:15 EDT --- dtardon->caolanm: sure, that's easy -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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11:54 p.m.

New subject: [Fedora-i18n-bugs] [Bug 734976] libreoffice-langpack-*-* not pulled in by yum install libreoffice

Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=734976 David Tardon <dtardon(a)redhat.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|ASSIGNED |MODIFIED --- Comment #9 from David Tardon <dtardon(a)redhat.com> 2011-09-06 00:54:38 EDT --- will be in libreoffice-3.4.3.2-6.fc16 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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Wednesday, 7 September Wed, 7 Sep

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BCP-47

Right thanks.

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I have some code to map existing glibc locales to best-fit tags http://people.redhat.com/caolanm/BCP47/ but its err... a work in progress.

Cool, that's interesting. Is it in version control somewhere? A python binding might also help adoption by anaconda/yum.

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We can add some provides I suppose for now.

Ok thanks, libreoffice-3.4.3.2-6.fc16 looks good.

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If there is a move for langpack naming guidelines I'd like to know in order to make my own counter proposal ;-)

Well I would be happier to collaborate on a good solution. :) Certainly the current mapping of locales to langs/scripts is often awkward - so I hear what you're saying. As you know the main fedora-wide problem with langpacks naming currently is not so much the language suffixes but the variety of upstream naming for them. Anyway perhaps if Fedora langpack subpackages provided something like "%{name}-langpack(<BCP47code>)" that might help to simplify things. Some standard rpm macros for langpacks might be able to help with that. Probably need to think more how to map optimally into yum-langpacks searching. Maybe comps lang groups should use BCP-47 too. That would be ideal for Chinese at least, and maybe some other langs. Do you want to open an rfe against yum-langpacks for BCP-47 support to track this anyway? I would be interested to hear more on your ideas. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=734976 --- Comment #11 from Fedora Update System <updates(a)fedoraproject.org> 2011-09-07 06:02:15 EDT --- libreoffice-3.4.3.2-6.fc16 has been submitted as an update for Fedora 16. https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libreoffice-3.4.3.2-6.fc16 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=734976 Fedora Update System <updates(a)fedoraproject.org> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|MODIFIED |ON_QA --- Comment #12 from Fedora Update System <updates(a)fedoraproject.org> 2011-09-07 22:26:18 EDT --- Package libreoffice-3.4.3.2-6.fc16: * should fix your issue, * was pushed to the Fedora 16 testing repository, * should be available at your local mirror within two days. Update it with: # su -c 'yum update --enablerepo=updates-testing libreoffice-3.4.3.2-6.fc16' as soon as you are able to. Please go to the following url: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libreoffice-3.4.3.2-6.fc16 then log in and leave karma (feedback). -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=734976 --- Comment #13 from Fedora Update System <updates(a)fedoraproject.org> 2011-09-09 13:05:46 EDT --- libreoffice-3.4.3.2-6.fc16 has been pushed to the Fedora 16 stable repository. If problems still persist, please make note of it in this bug report. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=734976 --- Comment #14 from Fedora Update System <updates(a)fedoraproject.org> 2011-09-16 03:59:33 EDT --- libreoffice-3.3.3.1-6.fc15 has been submitted as an update for Fedora 15. https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libreoffice-3.3.3.1-6.fc15 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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Thursday, 29 September Thu, 29 Sep

7:39 a.m.

New subject: [Fedora-i18n-bugs] [Bug 734976] libreoffice-langpack-*-* not pulled in by yum install libreoffice

Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=734976 Kevin Kofler <kevin(a)tigcc.ticalc.org> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |kevin(a)tigcc.ticalc.org --- Comment #17 from Kevin Kofler <kevin(a)tigcc.ticalc.org> 2011-09-29 08:39:05 EDT ---

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BCP-47 style FWIW (http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/bcp/bcp47.txt) rather than anything to do with Java.

Why can't we just accept that the glibc/gettext format has become the de-facto standard and that it doesn't make sense to invent a new, incompatible one? It's way too late for that!

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BCP-47 offers a relatively sane way to describe e.g. Serbian written in Latin script, sr-Latn or Sindhi written in Devanagari script, sd-Deva.

So does glibc/gettext, that's what the @variant suffix is for. kde-l10n uses at least sr@latin, sr@ijekavian, sr@ijekavianlatin and ca@valencia.

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I have some code to map existing glibc locales to best-fit tags http://people.redhat.com/caolanm/BCP47/ but its err... a work in progress.

I see you have a hunspell patch there, which renames all the hunspell dictionaries. I have to warn you that this is an incompatible change which will undoubtedly break many applications using hunspell. (We already have enough problems as it stands now with some KDE applications assuming they can just request "de" as a dictionary as opposed to de_DE, de_AT or de_CH. But if you also rename away the de_DE etc. ones, many more applications will be broken. No application will be looking for a de-DE dictionary.) Please do not make such gratuitously incompatible changes. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=734976 --- Comment #18 from Caolan McNamara <caolanm(a)redhat.com> 2011-09-29 09:13:00 EDT --- Bugzilla is the wrong place for the discussion, anyway all those patches are solely patches (from last year), they're not integrated into anything, they're thinking aloud. What's the glibc code for "German using pre 1996 spelling rules change" or "English using Oxford English Spelling preferred '-ize' suffix" :-) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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