[Fedora-i18n-bugs] [Bug 1260061] New: fallbacks for TmsRmn and Helv

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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1260061

            Bug ID: 1260061
           Summary: fallbacks for TmsRmn and Helv
           Product: Fedora
           Version: rawhide
         Component: fontconfig
          Assignee: tagoh(a)redhat.com
          Reporter: caolanm(a)redhat.com
        QA Contact: extras-qa(a)fedoraproject.org
                CC: fonts-bugs(a)lists.fedoraproject.org,
                    i18n-bugs(a)lists.fedoraproject.org, pnemade(a)redhat.com,
                    tagoh(a)redhat.com
   External Bug ID: Document Foundation 91004
   External Bug ID: Document Foundation 91004



There are MSOffice documents that refer to "TmsRmn" and "Helv" fonts,
and
fontconfig doesn't suggest suitable replacements.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/82860

"TmsRmn and Helv ... We still have the exact same fonts, but now under the
names MS Sans Serif and MS Serif"

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/68536

"Font Family     Bitstream    Canon    Adobe        HP
-----------     ---------    -----    -----        --

Swiss (Helv)    Swiss        Swiss    Helvetica    Universe
Roman (Tms Rmn) Dutch        Dutch    Times Roman  CG Times"

So "Helv" == "MS Serif" and both could be added as part of the
Helvetica group
of mappings I guess and "Tms Rmn" == "MS Sans Serif" and both are
presumably
then suitable for mapping to the "Nimbus Roman No9 L"/"Times New
Roman" targets
?

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[Fedora-i18n-bugs] [Bug 1260061] fallbacks for TmsRmn and Helv

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--- Comment #1 from Nicolas Mailhot <nicolas.mailhot(a)laposte.net&gt; ---
I think you have it backwards :)

Anyway more than new aliases this group of fonts really need a modern
implementation in Fedora (trying to use them on modern i18n text is an exercise
in frustration, most non-us users will prefer broken aliasing to
non-metric-compatible fonts rather than aliasing to implementations missing
half the needed symbols). Someone probably needs to revisit packaging TEX Gyre
if they finally fixed licensing warts.

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[Fedora-i18n-bugs] [Bug 1260061] fallbacks for TmsRmn and Helv

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           What    |Removed                     |Added
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             Status|NEW                         |CLOSED
         Resolution|---                         |EOL
        Last Closed|                            |2017-08-08 08:12:42



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ompragash <oviswana(a)redhat.com&gt; changed:

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--- Comment #5 from ompragash <oviswana(a)redhat.com&gt; ---
This bug could not be fixed.

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