[Fedora-i18n-bugs] [Bug 663900] New: Virtual Terminal has broken Rendering for Indian languages, text 'password' is shown as localized,
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Summary: Virtual Terminal has broken Rendering for Indian languages, text
'password' is shown as localized,
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Summary: Virtual Terminal has broken Rendering for Indian
languages, text 'password' is shown as localized,
Product: Fedora
Version: rawhide
Platform: Unspecified
OS/Version: Unspecified
Status: NEW
Keywords: i18n
Severity: medium
Priority: low
Component: initscripts
AssignedTo: notting(a)redhat.com
ReportedBy: aalam(a)redhat.com
QAContact: extras-qa(a)fedoraproject.org
CC: notting(a)redhat.com, jonathan(a)jonmasters.org,
i18n-bugs(a)lists.fedoraproject.org,
plautrba(a)redhat.com, iarlyy(a)gmail.com
Classification: Fedora
Target Release: ---
Description of problem:
While installed Rawhide in particular language (Hindi/hi_IN), try to switch
Virtual Terminal (with Alt+Ctrl+F2/F3..), then After entering user name,
Password is shown in Local language, where it failed to display (only square
characters are shown).
Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable):
How reproducible:
Every time
Steps to Reproduce:
1. Change System Language to Hindi (hi_IN)
2. (reboot and at) GDM Screen, switch to Virtual Terminal 2/3
3. enter any user nam
4. check password
Actual results:
text 'password' is in local language
Expected results:
that should be in English as Indic Languages are not rendering in Terminal
Additional info:
Fedora 14 is showing in English
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--- Comment #1 from iarly selbir | ski0s <iarlyy(a)gmail.com> 2010-12-17 07:02:47 EST
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Despite it be a i18 bug, It seems to need some fix from initscript.
Thanks for your report.
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--- Comment #2 from Bill Nottingham <notting(a)redhat.com> 2010-12-17 15:00:40 EST
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I suspect systemd is starting gettys in the system locale; earlier inits did
not set the locale for their child processes.
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--- Comment #3 from Lennart Poettering <lpoetter(a)redhat.com> 2011-01-04 18:00:35 EST
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Hmm, I would argue that systemd is doing the right thing here by passing the
locale env to getty/login. Ad that getty/login is doing the wrong thing when it
gets these env vars passed.
It seems login should not translate some strings it currently translates.
Reassigning to login/util-linux.
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--- Comment #4 from Bill Nottingham <notting(a)redhat.com> 2011-01-05 15:07:19 EST
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The 'password' prompt may be coming from PAM.
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--- Comment #5 from Tomas Mraz <tmraz(a)redhat.com> 2011-01-05 16:38:19 EST ---
I'm sorry, but the prompt is translated and will stay translated in the PAM
modules. The PAM modules do not know (well they can find out the service but it
does not make any sense to query it for this purpose) which environment they
are running in and other applications might well expect to get the strings
translated. So the locale env variables should be unset in getty probably.
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--- Comment #6 from Miloslav Trmač <mitr(a)redhat.com> 2011-01-05 16:40:35 EST ---
Skipping translation of only some strings is not an correct fix - and it would
be a regression for non-English locales that can be displayed correctly.
The problem is not application-specific - the Linux console can not display all
required glyphs. Thus the locale should not ever be set one of the far Eastern
locales for any process running on the console in in the first place.
See what /etc/profile.d/lang.sh is doing (at least on F14). Whatever process
sets the locale for the getty/login/shell process subtree running on the
console needs to do something similar.
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--- Comment #7 from Lennart Poettering <lpoetter(a)redhat.com> 2011-01-05 17:47:36 EST
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Well, we can definitely reset LANG explicitly for the gettys we spawn. That way
things will work again as they always did. That will ensure that the prompts
are in english again, which is good for indian languages -- but is not that
great for languages using latin letters.
i.e. this way because the console cannot do indian letters we'd be unable to
show "Kennwort:" instead of "Password:" for de_DE. Not ideal either.
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--- Comment #8 from Miloslav Trmač <mitr(a)redhat.com> 2011-01-05 17:51:01 EST ---
Again, see what /etc/profile.d/lang.sh does.
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--- Comment #9 from Karel Zak <kzak(a)redhat.com> 2011-01-05 18:11:16 EST ---
Note that agetty(8) and login(1) use locales. The originally used mingetty(8)
is without locale support.
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--- Comment #10 from Lennart Poettering <lpoetter(a)redhat.com> 2011-01-05 18:49:19
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(In reply to comment #8)
Again, see what /etc/profile.d/lang.sh does.
Well, lang.sh doesn't look right to me. i.e. log in on the console with indian
locale, then lang.sh will fix this for you. But, then connect from there via
ssh to another machine which also uses indian locale. You'll get indian chars
from the other machine because TERM is passed on via ssh, but LANG isn't, and
the tty type will not be vt but pty.
So, if we do care about proper localization for getty/login, then at some place
we'd have to do the logic from lang.sh (but with the problem i pointed out
above fixed) and that logic would need to run somwhere as part of getty/login
so that its effect are visible in getty/login already.
Karel, what's your opinion about adding this ugly hack to agetty?
The right fix of course would be to introduce some mechanism which could tell
gettext/glibc/whatever to use UTF8 on the console, but avoid the indian chars
or so.
I will now unset LANG before spawning getty. That's the short term fix. Given
that console is crufty anyway maybe that's simply where we should leave things
and then forget about them.
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Summary|Virtual Terminal has broken |RFE: getty: fix up locale
|Rendering for Indian |settings for indian
|languages, text 'password' |languages when run on
|is shown as localized, |console
--- Comment #11 from Lennart Poettering <lpoetter(a)redhat.com> 2011-01-06 14:51:09
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systemd git now unsets all locale settings when spawning a getty on the
console. This should fix the immediate problem. I will now reassign this to
util-linux as RFE in the hope that agetty maybe can be extended with a local
blacklist of some sorts (for example /etc/vtlocale.blacklist), that patches the
locale iff it is run on the console and the locale is set to one of the indian
languages. Such fixup code will always be ugly, but if we do it we probably
should do it as part of the initializaiton of getty (and not later,
post-login), so that getty itself can be translated.
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--- Comment #12 from Miloslav Trmač <mitr(a)redhat.com> 2011-01-06 15:49:46 EST ---
There are two separate locales.
* Locale used in the login process. This uses the system locale. I don't
really have an opinion about whether this should be set in systemd or in
*getty.
* Locale used in the session after login. This is a _per-user_ setting
(~/.i18n), and I don't see much reason to handle this in the privileged *getty
process - having it in profile.d/lang.sh is quite fine IMHO, and it handles all
login methods. The ssh problem from comment #10 remains, but that's neither
here or there - if the profile.d/lang.sh functionality were moved to *getty, it
should also be provided inside sshd, and the lack of information applies to
sshd just as well as to profile.d/lang.sh.
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--- Comment #13 from Miloslav Trmač <mitr(a)redhat.com> 2011-01-07 09:45:55 EST ---
(In reply to comment #12)
There are two separate locales.
* Locale used in the login process. This uses the system locale. I don't
really have an opinion about whether this should be set in systemd or in
*getty.
Actually... To the extent systemd can write status or error messages to the
Linux console, systemd itself should, eventually, also set the system locale
and do the filtering (because, eventually, the messages should support
translation).
I still can't see a clear reason to "logically" place the responsibility
for
filtering the locale should be to systemd or to the various programs that use
the console (i.e. should getty set the locale and filter it, and should gdm set
the locale and not filter it, or should both be handled by systemd?) - but if
the code needs to exist inside systemd anyway, placing the responsibility with
systemd would probably result in the simplest design.
I.e. systemd would be responsible for setting locales for services it starts,
and could be configured to filter it for services that use the Linux console.
None of the system-wide daemons would care about /etc/sysconfig/i18n, parsing
it, or worry about filtering the data.
Ideally it should be possible to share the locale filtering code between
systemd and profile.d/lang.sh (e.g. a script that gets the L* environment
variables on stdin and outputs filtered settings on stdout), but that's
probably just too much bike shedding from me.
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--- Comment #14 from A S Alam <aalam(a)redhat.com> 2011-01-07 09:55:51 EST ---
just small update - languages includes Indian + CJK (Asian) and
bug #652513 (need some exception to have LANG=en_US in grub.conf for CIJK) can
be reference
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--- Comment #15 from Akira TAGOH <tagoh(a)redhat.com> 2011-01-10 20:30:28 EST ---
This issue should be duplicate of Bug #652513.
*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 652513 ***
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--- Comment #16 from Tomas Mraz <tmraz(a)redhat.com> 2011-01-11 02:44:53 EST ---
Reopening. The discussion here is not closed and the other bug is not too
informative.
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--- Comment #17 from Akira TAGOH <tagoh(a)redhat.com> 2011-01-27 02:54:15 EST ---
Any updates on the dicsussion? if it's a bit hard to get this fixed in f15 time
frame, I'd like to push a workaround in grubby for this issue though. I'm
pretty sure getting rid of LANG or set non-CJKI locales to LANG in the kernel
parameter helps for this at least.
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Summary|RFE: getty: fix up locale |RFE: getty: fix up locale
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--- Comment #18 from Akira TAGOH <tagoh(a)redhat.com> 2011-03-09 00:48:00 EST ---
I don't see this issue on f15 alpha anymore. in
/etc/systemd/getty.target.wants/getty(a)tty?.service:
# Unset locale for the console getty since the console has problems
# displaying some internationalized messages.
Environment=LANG= LC_CTYPE= LC_NUMERIC= LC_TIME= LC_COLLATE= LC_MONETARY=
LC_MESSAGE= LC_PAPER= LC_NAME= LC_ADDRESS= LC_TELEPHONE= LC_MEASUREMENT=
LC_IDENTIFICATION=
Is that a fix for this issue right?
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--- Comment #19 from Miloslav Trmač <mitr(a)redhat.com> 2011-03-09 06:56:30 EST ---
If so, shouldn't it include LC_ALL as well?
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--- Comment #20 from Akira TAGOH <tagoh(a)redhat.com> 2011-03-09 07:39:10 EST ---
if there are any way to give it a process, right.
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--- Comment #21 from Lennart Poettering <lpoetter(a)redhat.com> 2011-03-09 09:49:02
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(In reply to comment #18)
I don't see this issue on f15 alpha anymore. in
/etc/systemd/getty.target.wants/getty(a)tty?.service:
# Unset locale for the console getty since the console has problems
# displaying some internationalized messages.
Environment=LANG= LC_CTYPE= LC_NUMERIC= LC_TIME= LC_COLLATE= LC_MONETARY=
LC_MESSAGE= LC_PAPER= LC_NAME= LC_ADDRESS= LC_TELEPHONE= LC_MEASUREMENT=
LC_IDENTIFICATION=
Is that a fix for this issue right?
Yes, it should be.
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--- Comment #22 from Lennart Poettering <lpoetter(a)redhat.com> 2011-03-09 09:50:12
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(In reply to comment #19)
If so, shouldn't it include LC_ALL as well?
systemd will never set LC_ALL itself, since that is mostly an environment
variable mostly useful to override the normal settings you do with LANG and the
other LC_xxx variables. Since systemd won't set this var we hence don't need to
unset it in the getty.
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New subject: [Fedora-i18n-bugs] [Bug 663900] RFE: getty: fix up locale settings for CIJK languages when run on console
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Akira TAGOH <tagoh(a)redhat.com> changed:
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Status|ASSIGNED |MODIFIED
Flag|needinfo?(kzak(a)redhat.com) |
--- Comment #23 from Akira TAGOH <tagoh(a)redhat.com> 2011-03-31 01:29:24 EDT ---
(In reply to comment #21)
(In reply to comment #18)
> I don't see this issue on f15 alpha anymore. in
> /etc/systemd/getty.target.wants/getty(a)tty?.service:
>
>
> # Unset locale for the console getty since the console has problems
> # displaying some internationalized messages.
> Environment=LANG= LC_CTYPE= LC_NUMERIC= LC_TIME= LC_COLLATE= LC_MONETARY=
> LC_MESSAGE= LC_PAPER= LC_NAME= LC_ADDRESS= LC_TELEPHONE= LC_MEASUREMENT=
> LC_IDENTIFICATION=
>
> Is that a fix for this issue right?
Yes, it should be.
Thanks. let's close this or change the bug status to MODIFIED at least then :)
changing to MODIFIED so far. that would be better if confirming by someone else
as well.
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New subject: [Fedora-i18n-bugs] [Bug 663900] RFE: getty: fix up locale settings for CIJK languages when run on console
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Jens Petersen <petersen(a)redhat.com> changed:
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Status|MODIFIED |CLOSED
Resolution| |NEXTRELEASE
Last Closed|2011-01-10 20:30:28 |2011-04-07 01:11:28
--- Comment #24 from Jens Petersen <petersen(a)redhat.com> 2011-04-07 01:11:28 EDT
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Looks good to me too. Thanks!
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