[Fedora-i18n-bugs] [Bug 830563] New: language select does not change system language

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Bug ID: 830563
        QA Contact: [e-mail]
          Severity: unspecified
           Version: 17
          Priority: unspecified
                CC: [e-mail], [e-mail],
                    [e-mail]
          Assignee: [e-mail]
           Summary: language select does not change system language
        Regression: ---
      Story Points: ---
    Classification: Fedora
                OS: Unspecified
          Reporter: [e-mail]
              Type: Bug
     Documentation: ---
          Hardware: Unspecified
        Mount Type: ---
            Status: NEW
         Component: system-config-language
           Product: Fedora

Description of problem:
On Fedora KDE spin (fresh install) the system-config-language does not change
the system language. Only a few components changed language.

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--- Comment #1 from Pravin Satpute  ---
please provide rpm version of s-c-l.

what is the content of /etc/sysconfig/i18n after selecting language in s-c-l?

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--- Comment #2 from Caterpillar  ---
# cat /etc/sysconfig/i18n
LANG="it_IT.UTF-8"
SYSFONT="latarcyrheb-sun16

# cat /etc/sysconfig/i18n
LANG="it_IT.UTF-8"
SYSFONT="latarcyrheb-sun16

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--- Comment #3 from Caterpillar  ---
Could it be related to https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=840885  ?

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--- Comment #4 from Pravin Satpute  ---
yes, looks like.

If there is nothing to change or differences you can see. Then simply changing
language will not work. Only application will start in that locale.

Please note one more thing s-c-l only changes system language(root) , not
users.

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--- Comment #5 from Caterpillar  ---
Do you need some other infos?

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--- Comment #6 from Jens Petersen  ---
(In reply to comment #2)
> # cat /etc/sysconfig/i18n
> LANG="it_IT.UTF-8"
> SYSFONT="latarcyrheb-sun16

So it has changed...

You need to reboot after that though.

I think this is not a bug.

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--- Comment #7 from Caterpillar  ---
I rebooted but the system did not change language. Seriously, it is a bug,
since 2009 I installed about 30 Fedora KDE machines and I always followed the
same procedure. But from Fedora 17 it is no longer working

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--- Comment #8 from Pravin Satpute  ---
from communications on #fedora-kde i understood, this problem is not related
with s-c-l since your locales are set properly but since you do not have
required packages you are not getting localized env.

As said on https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=840885#c8 making
yum-langpacks backward compatible can solve this problem.

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        Last Closed|                            |2012-07-25 20:48:13

--- Comment #9 from Jens Petersen  ---

*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 840885 ***

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--- Comment #10 from Jens Petersen  ---
(Just note also that system locale (language) is not necessarily same as user
locale.)

Because of the changes to to comps with yum-langpacks, system-config-language
will no longer allow you to install langpacks which is a bit unfortunate.

Maybe it is better to make this bug depend on bug 840885 since some
changes may be need to s-c-l after bug 840885 gets fixed.

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--- Comment #11 from Pravin Satpute  ---
  Yeah, might be instead of yum groupinstall "language", i need to run yum
langinstall "language".
  I am keeping watch on it.

Thanks,
Pravin S

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--- Comment #12 from Pravin Satpute  ---
*** Bug 857698 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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--- Comment #13 from Germano Massullo  ---
Fedora 18 is still affected by this problem

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--- Comment #14 from Parag  ---
Can you provide detailed steps like in which language you installed F18, what
other language you want to set using s-c-l and what happened when you try to
set that language and what was not done for you by s-c-l?

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--- Comment #15 from Germano Massullo  ---
Installing a fresh Fedora 18 KDE beta and selecting a non US language in
Anaconda installation process, after the system restart...

1) s-c-l is not default installed (Do you suggest me to open a bugreport for
that?). When you install it and you start it, you can see your non us language
default selected (as it is in KDE system settings -> Locale), so I had the dubt
that s-c-l has been replaced by KDE system settings -> Locale, but in IRC chat,
Rex Dieter told me it does not.

2) s-c-l still does not install the kde package for your non us language and
you have to do it manually by installing (in my case) the package
kde-l10n-Italian
After that, the system is correctly using the Italian language

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--- Comment #16 from Pravin Satpute  ---
- AFAIK we are not installing s-c-l default from many releases.

- does yum langinstall pulls "kde-l10n-Italian" package for you?

s-c-l uses yum langinstall and yum groupinstall lang-support, so if these
commands are pulling those packages s-c-l should also install
"kde-l10n-Italian" package, else it is bug with s-c-l.

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--- Comment #18 from Parag  ---
Moving this to F19...

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--- Comment #20 from Germano Massullo  ---
Recently I putted my hands on fresh Fedora KDE installations, and I saw that
there are no menu entries that can allow a user to change the desktop
environment language to a non English one, without putting his hands on a
package manager.
This can be a problem for new users.

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--- Comment #21 from Diego  ---
(In reply to Germano Massullo from comment #20)
> Recently I putted my hands on fresh Fedora KDE installations, and I saw that
> there are no menu entries that can allow a user to change the desktop
> environment language to a non English one, without putting his hands on a
> package manager.
> This can be a problem for new users.

I confirm the exact same problem. The only way is to know manually which
packages to install (tedious and error prone) or use from the command line:
yum langinstall <lang-code>

I has been like that for several Fedora releases, it would be nice to fix it in
next version.

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--- Comment #22 from Rex Dieter  ---
rebasing to rawhide, marking FutureFeature, to avoid autoclose.

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--- Comment #23 from Diego  ---
(In reply to Rex Dieter from comment #22)
> rebasing to rawhide, marking FutureFeature, to avoid autoclose.

Can this be evaluated as a release blocker for Fedora 21? Changing system
language and installing related packages has been something I remember being
supported for a long time in Fedora, and that other distributions still
support.
I'd consider this as a regression and quite important for a mainstream Linux
distribution.

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--- Comment #24 from Parag  ---
Fixed in system-config-language-2.1.0-1.fc21

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--- Comment #25 from Fedora Update System  ---
system-config-language-2.2.0-2.fc20 has been submitted as an update for Fedora
20.
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/system-config-language-2.2.0-2.fc20

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--- Comment #26 from Fedora Update System  ---
Package system-config-language-2.2.0-2.fc20:
* should fix your issue,
* was pushed to the Fedora 20 testing repository,
* should be available at your local mirror within two days.
Update it with:
# su -c 'yum update --enablerepo=updates-testing
system-config-language-2.2.0-2.fc20'
as soon as you are able to.
Please go to the following url:
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-7516/system-config-langu...
then log in and leave karma (feedback).

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   Fixed In Version|                            |system-config-language-2.2.
                   |                            |0-3.fc20
         Resolution|---                         |ERRATA
        Last Closed|2012-07-25 20:48:13         |2014-06-30 19:21:19

--- Comment #27 from Fedora Update System  ---
system-config-language-2.2.0-3.fc20 has been pushed to the Fedora 20 stable
repository.  If problems still persist, please make note of it in this bug
report.