[Fedora-i18n-bugs] [Bug 1088033] New: Text Figures for Liberation Fonts

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Bug ID: 1088033
           Summary: Text Figures for Liberation Fonts
           Product: Fedora
           Version: rawhide
         Component: liberation-fonts
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Hello Pravin,

I was wondering whether you might consider adding text figures to your fonts.
That'd be great and I don't think it'll take you long.

Regards

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--- Comment #1 from Pravin Satpute  ---
Some reference please :)

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--- Comment #2 from Alessandro Ceschini  ---
Sorry, I thought you already knew about it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Text_figures

Hope it suffices.

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--- Comment #4 from Alessandro Ceschini  ---
Hello everybody, a year has elapsed since I filed this feature request. May I
kindly ask you if you're planning to implement it?

Regards,

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--- Comment #5 from Pravin Satpute  ---
Apologies for being so late on it. This is not in plan presently.

Can you provide reference of any other fonts providing this support?

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--- Comment #6 from Alessandro Ceschini  ---
Hello!

I hope these two suffice:
http://www.fonts.com/content/learning/fontology/level-3/numbers/oldstyle-fig...
http://practicaltypography.com/alternate-figures.html

Regards

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--- Comment #7 from Alessandro Ceschini  ---
As far as I know, Linux Libertine O does it, so do Minion Pro and EB Garamond.

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--- Comment #8 from Pravin Satpute  ---
(In reply to Alessandro Ceschini from comment #6)
> Hello!
>
> I hope these two suffice:
> http://www.fonts.com/content/learning/fontology/level-3/numbers/oldstyle-
> figures
> http://practicaltypography.com/alternate-figures.html

Looking at this. Only missing part is "Oldstyle figures"

As you know, The Liberation(tm) Fonts is a font family which aims at metric
compatibility with Arial, Times New Roman, and Courier New.

1. If Text figure are part of these fonts. It makes strong case. 
2. If you can come up with patch i can review and push to liberation git.

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--- Comment #9 from Alessandro Ceschini  ---
Hello Pravin,

1. I don't know  much about that, I've not been running a Windows platform for
ten years. Back in Windows XP days, no, there was no support for Oldstyle
figures, but then there was also no support whatsoever for Opentype so the
issue was rather moot. I know the latest versions of Office DO include support
for Opentype, so I guess Microsoft fonts may have been updated. But it's only a
guess.

2. I'm sorry, I'm no font designer, I'm afraid I cannot help you with that.

Regards,

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--- Comment #10 from Pravin Satpute  ---
No problem.
We have already marked it as a RFE. Let me see if someone can jump in for
helping to add this feature, then we can complete this.

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Text figures for TNR and Arial

(In reply to Pravin Satpute from comment #8)
> (In reply to Alessandro Ceschini from comment #6)
> > Hello!
> >
> > I hope these two suffice:
> > http://www.fonts.com/content/learning/fontology/level-3/numbers/oldstyle-
> > figures
> > http://practicaltypography.com/alternate-figures.html
>
> Looking at this. Only missing part is "Oldstyle figures"
>
> As you know, The Liberation(tm) Fonts is a font family which aims at metric
> compatibility with Arial, Times New Roman, and Courier New.
> If Text figure are part of these fonts. It makes strong case.
> If you can come up with patch i can review and push to liberation git.

Windows 10 version of Arial and Times New Roman have already supported
old-style figures, they can be available via activiting 'onum' feature, also
implemented proportional figures ('pnum').

In LibreOffice 5.3.0 and newer you can get them in this way: set the font face
into Arial or Times New Roman, then input the syntex ":onum=1" after font name
and press Enter, then you will see the effect.

You can try to use Windows 10 virtual machine to test if you don’t use Windows.
https://dev.windows.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/tools/vms/

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--- Comment #15 from Pravin Satpute  ---
As this feature is already available in other fonts. Good to have this in
Liberation as well.

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--- Comment #16 from Jens Petersen  ---
I think good to consider compatibility with other common office fonts.
Any reason not to use the existing fonts for your use-case?

As Pravin suggested earlier "prior art" would strengthen this suggestion.

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--- Comment #17 from Jens Petersen  ---
eg Microsoft Arial, also Google Caladea and Carlito fonts all have aligned
figures (digits): I am sure there are other examples.

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--- Comment #18 from Jens Petersen  ---
To clarify my last comment: I don't think we should change the style of the
font for digits like this.

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--- Comment #19 from Jens Petersen  ---
I think we should use Ariel, Times New Roman, and Courier, etc as references
to decide if any stylist change makes sense. Mainly we should just focus on
bug fixes and not making changes to the font.

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