[Fedora-i18n-bugs] [Bug 1135750] New: Keyboard layout does not change when input source language changes

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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1135750

            Bug ID: 1135750
           Summary: Keyboard layout does not change when input source
                    language changes
           Product: Fedora
           Version: 21
         Component: ibus
          Assignee: tfujiwar(a)redhat.com
          Reporter: jmatsuzawa(a)gnome.org
        QA Contact: extras-qa(a)fedoraproject.org
                CC: i18n-bugs(a)lists.fedoraproject.org,
                    shawn.p.huang(a)gmail.com, tfujiwar(a)redhat.com



Description of problem:
The keyboard layout changes for Japanese when input source changes from English
US to Japanese (plain). However, the layout won't change when input source
changes from English US to Japanese Kana Kanji. The layout remains for English.

Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable):
ibus-1.5.8-1.fc20.x86_64

How reproducible:
Always

Steps to Reproduce:
(I assume GNOME Desktop)
1. Open the settings panel (gnome-control-center)
2. Select [Region & Language]
3. Add English US and Japanse Kana Kanji to the input source list
4. Press Supser+Space to switch the input source to English US
5. Press Supser+Space to switch the input source to Japanese Kana Kanji

Actual results:
The keyboard layout remains for English US.

Expected results:
The keyboard layout is for Japanese

Additional info:
This problem also occurs when:
- switching between English US and Japanse Mozc
- switching between German and Japanse Kana Kanji

This problem does NOT occur when:
- switching between English US and Japanse (plain) 
- switching between English US and German

And this problem occurs on Fedora 21, too

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[Fedora-i18n-bugs] [Bug 1135750] Keyboard layout does not change when input source language changes

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--- Comment #1 from fujiwara <tfujiwar(a)redhat.com&gt; ---
Input method does not change the keyboard layout.
If you need to switch the layout, you need to add 'JP' keyboard layout besides
kkc.
Or probably you can set the keyboard layout in kcc with the kkc setup dialog,
/usr/libexec/ibus-setup-kkc

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[Fedora-i18n-bugs] [Bug 1135750] Keyboard layout does not change when input source language changes

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--- Comment #2 from Jiro Matsuzawa <jmatsuzawa(a)gnome.org&gt; ---
(In reply to fujiwara from comment #1)
>  Input method does not change the keyboard layout. 
Do you mean switching input sources does not change the keyboard layout? If so,
why switching from Japanese Kana Kanji to German using Supser+Space changes the
layout for German? And, why is the reverse not true? I don't think it is
intuitive and convenient if switching sources from A to B changes the layout
while B to A does not. Or, don't I get your points?


>  If you need to switch the layout, you need to add 'JP'
> keyboard layout
>  besides kkc.
>  Or probably you can set the keyboard layout in kcc with the kkc setup
>  dialog, /usr/libexec/ibus-setup-kkc 
Actually, I use Japanese and German sources, which are not compatible with each
other. According to you, to switch from German to Japanese, you have to switch
German -> JP (Japanese plain) -> Japanse Kana Kanji. Don't you think that is
annoying? The reverse is just Japanese Kana Kanji -> Germany.

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[Fedora-i18n-bugs] [Bug 1135750] Keyboard layout does not change when input source language changes

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--- Comment #3 from fujiwara <tfujiwar(a)redhat.com&gt; ---
(In reply to Jiro Matsuzawa from comment #2)
>  (In reply to fujiwara from comment #1)
>  > Input method does not change the keyboard layout.
>  
>  Do you mean switching input sources does not change the keyboard layout? If
>  so, why switching from Japanese Kana Kanji to German using Supser+Space
>  changes the layout for German? And, why is the reverse not true? I don't
>  think it is intuitive and convenient if switching sources from A to B
>  changes the layout while B to A does not. Or, don't I get your points? 
Because the German engine is XKB layout.
Once you switch the engine to German, you will use German layout between kkc
and 'de'.
That means it would be good the session layout to 'de'.

>  
>  
>  > If you need to switch the layout, you need to add 'JP' keyboard layout
>  > besides kkc.
>  > Or probably you can set the keyboard layout in kcc with the kkc setup
>  > dialog, /usr/libexec/ibus-setup-kkc
>  
>  Actually, I use Japanese and German sources, which are not compatible with
>  each other. According to you, to switch from German to Japanese, you have to
>  switch German -> JP (Japanese plain) -> Japanse Kana Kanji. Don't you think
>  that is annoying? The reverse is just Japanese Kana Kanji -> Germany. 
If you use the multiple XKB engines, I'd suggest to configure kkc to set the
preferred layout 'jp' likes ibus-setup-kkc.

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[Fedora-i18n-bugs] [Bug 1135750] Keyboard layout does not change when input source language changes

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Jiro Matsuzawa <jmatsuzawa(a)gnome.org&gt; changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|NEW                         |CLOSED
         Resolution|---                         |NOTABUG
        Last Closed|                            |2014-09-02 10:30:19



--- Comment #4 from Jiro Matsuzawa <jmatsuzawa(a)gnome.org&gt; ---
I see. Thank you for the explanation and advice. I closed this as NOTABUG.

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