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Bug ID: 834368 QA Contact: extras-qa@fedoraproject.org Severity: high Version: rawhide Priority: unspecified CC: fonts-bugs@lists.fedoraproject.org, i18n-bugs@lists.fedoraproject.org, psatpute@redhat.com Assignee: psatpute@redhat.com Summary: Lohit Telugu does not have the Latin character set Regression: --- Story Points: --- Classification: Fedora OS: All Reporter: gopal.iiit@gmail.com Type: Bug Documentation: --- Hardware: All Mount Type: --- Status: NEW Component: lohit-telugu-fonts Product: Fedora
Description of problem:
The Lohit Telugu font does not come with the default Latin character set which has all the symbols such as hyphen, comma etc. As a result, it is unusable in typesetting, especially in Latex.
Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable): All releases
How reproducible: Every time the font is used.
Steps to Reproduce: 1. Use latex to typeset a Telugu document 2. Compile 3. Open PDF
Actual results: None of the symbols such as full-stop, comma, hyphen appear. Instead they are reported as missing in the font.
Expected results: All the symbols appear properly in the output PDF.
Additional info:
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A S Alam aalam@redhat.com changed:
What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Keywords| |i18n, Triaged Summary|Lohit Telugu does not have |[te_IN] Lohit Telugu does |the Latin character set |not have the Latin | |character set
--- Comment #1 from A S Alam aalam@redhat.com --- lohit-telugu-fonts-2.5.1-2.fc17.noarch
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--- Comment #2 from Pravin Satpute psatpute@redhat.com --- Yes, we are facing this problem from long time. Will soon add Latin characters in Lohit all fonts.
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Shriramana Sharma samjnaa@gmail.com changed:
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--- Comment #3 from Shriramana Sharma samjnaa@gmail.com --- By Latin characters I presume only the script-neutral punctuation marks and numerals are meant. These are already seen in at least Lohit Tamil and Lohit Devanagari fonts.
Do you think it very important to include Latin basic alphabet A-Z a-z?
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--- Comment #4 from Gopala Krishna Koduri gopal.iiit@gmail.com --- It will be useful to include all three of them: punctuation marks, numerals and basic alphabet. At least in Latex, we have to resort to a strange fix to deal with it: http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/60709/change-the-font-of-hyphenchar/6...
But of course, puncuation marks and numerals have higher priority.
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--- Comment #5 from Pravin Satpute psatpute@redhat.com --- Yes, we should have that. 1. Some systems does not fallback to default latin fonts if selected font does not have Latin shapes.
2. Some time default selected Latin font is not matching with Lohit style.
So its better to have that.
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--- Comment #6 from Shriramana Sharma samjnaa@gmail.com --- Created attachment 600461 --> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=600461&action=edit Sample of Latin script DejaVu Sans font homogenously mixed with Lohit Devanagari and Tamil fonts
Frankly while I do not have any objection to the inclusion of script-neutral (i.e. script=common) characters like the international numerals or punctuation or such, I think it is inadvisable for the Lohit fonts to have Latin alphabets i.e. characters which are script=latin. The Lohit project IMHO is for Indic scripts and whatever script-neutral characters are part and parcel of Indic script orthography. If we start maintaining Latin characters, we would be over-extending our bounds IMHO.
There would arise questions like what subset of the huge Latin repertoire are we going to support. Just A-Za-z? But people who are working with Indic scripts, especially scholars like me, are bound to have requirements for the Indic transliteration letters like ĀāĪīŪū and so on. Are we going to include them and maintain them also? And some European scholars of Indic matters will be using their language text with Indic scripts, so should we include c-cedilla, a-acute etc etc? What about Russian scholars?
The DejaVu fonts project is already there to provide a full extended repertoire of Latin (and other European and non-European) script characters. DejaVu Sans is quite homogenously mixable with Lohit fonts. I personally recommend using DejaVu Sans for Latin/European scripts in combination with Lohit fonts for Indic scripts.
For illustration, please find attached a document which I finished just today in which I have used Lohit Devanagari and Lohit Tamil fonts with DejaVu Sans. Same Sanskrit text is presented in three scripts including Latin transliteration using diacritics in DejaVu Sans. I am personally a very picky person as to the presentation and font stylistic intercompatibility etc, and I myself feel that DejaVu is more than enough for using Latin (or other European) script text along with Lohit fonts.
Please let us not over-extend our domain.
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--- Comment #7 from Pravin Satpute psatpute@redhat.com --- Yes agree with you. We are only going to support "Basic Latin". That is also due to specific problem we are facing.
Thanks for your patch i will check it and commit.
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--- Comment #8 from Pravin Satpute psatpute@redhat.com --- I thought you provided font with addition of characters, sorry. Yes, Dejavu sans match with Lohit.
Problem is Dejavu and Lohit licenses are different.
I think we can go with Liberation Sans and Lohit both are now under OFL. Sending mail to lohit devel lets discuss there.
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--- Comment #12 from Pravin Satpute psatpute@redhat.com --- In upstream Lohit, we already having discussions with Dave for getting support for Latin in all Lohit fonts.
I would like to close and track this in upstream. https://github.com/pravins/lohit/issues/69
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Pravin Satpute psatpute@redhat.com changed:
What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |CLOSED Resolution|--- |UPSTREAM Last Closed| |2015-06-18 08:23:24
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