[Fedora-i18n-bugs] [Bug 880494] New: French Keyboard layout not following PC105 (physically same as USA English), and Cannot allocate Eurosymbol as altchar-E or altchar-5
12:40 a.m.
Product: Fedora
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=880494
Bug ID: 880494
Summary: French Keyboard layout not following PC105 (physically
same as USA English), and Cannot allocate Eurosymbol
as altchar-E or altchar-5
Product: Fedora
Version: 18
Component: xkeyboard-config
Severity: low
Priority: unspecified
Reporter: lsatenstein(a)yahoo.com
Description of problem:
There is an annaconda problem, and a keyboard layout definition problem and a
physical keyboard layout problem.
Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable):
Fedora 18 RC1 32bit
How reproducible:
F18 RC1 is being installed with default as English language. But I need the
Canadian French Keyboard, as I write both English and French
I added the Canadian French keyboard and placed it first in the list. Anaconda
continues to ignore the CF keyboard mapping. Only way to force a switch from
the US default was is to delete the USA keyboard, which activates the Cdn
French version and then i added back the USA English.
The USA English physical layout is correct. The Canadian French Keyboard must
look like the USA English (PC105 layout). Missing is what configuration we
could do in the past (F16,F17), which was to allow one to assign the Euro
symbol to the alt-char E, or alt-char 5
So, Anaconda needs some correction to fix what I described, and the keyboard
selection physical layout needs to match the physical layout of the USA English
Steps to Reproduce:
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2.
3.
Actual results:
Expected results:
Additional info:
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Leslie Satenstein <lsatenstein(a)yahoo.com> changed:
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CC| |lsatenstein(a)yahoo.com
--- Comment #1 from Leslie Satenstein <lsatenstein(a)yahoo.com> ---
Dec 11, 2012
I wiped the Nov 20 clean, and did a clean installation with the Dec 8 DVD.
The same problems persist.
The terminal logon (uwing ctl-alt-fn) only yields the English USA keyboard
The Gnome GUI terminal shows the correct keyboard.
My only keyboard is the Canada French (Quebec Canada)
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--- Comment #2 from Leslie Satenstein <lsatenstein(a)yahoo.com> ---
DVD-i386 dated Dec 8 is this most recent installation. I chose btfrs, if that
makes any difference.
The system is a dual core intel 945 mb i945gnt.
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--- Comment #3 from Leslie Satenstein <lsatenstein(a)yahoo.com> ---
Re my comment 2012-11-27 01:40:58 EST
Proceed to keyboard selection while doing an installation using American
English
Then I added the Canadian(French) keyboard.
I moved the CF definition to first (top) ahead of the American English Keyb.
Now, check the layout for the first entry. It is still the default American
English keyboard.
The character test for the key immediately below the escape key should show #
it shows the ` (backquote). The only way to see the CF layout is to delete the
USA layout, and then re-insert it.
Now the layouts and characters represent CF with # in the correct mapping.
What is missing of course is the ability to put the euro symbol on the E or 5
key.
New Canadian keyboards appear to have the euro € as the super E key. Do I raise
another bugzilla request to default the Euro € to either the 5 (preferred), or
the e key).
Is it right to just put all the F18 keyboard issues under one bugzilla number?
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--- Comment #4 from Peter Hutterer <peter.hutterer(a)redhat.com> ---
This sounds like a anaconda issue, reassigning. For the record, please file a
bug per issue, as this makes it easier to track them.
For the euro key, this is assigned through an option (eurosign:e), the default
ca layout does not have the euro key. so the issue here again is a
configuration, not the layout itself. assigning it to key 5 is option
eurosign:5
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Peter Hutterer <peter.hutterer(a)redhat.com> changed:
What |Removed |Added
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CC| |anaconda-maint-list@redhat.
| |com,
| |g.kaviyarasu(a)hotmail.com,
| |jonathan(a)jonmasters.org,
| |kanarip(a)kanarip.com,
| |sbueno(a)redhat.com
Component|xkeyboard-config |anaconda
Assignee|peter.hutterer(a)redhat.com |anaconda-maint-list@redhat.
| |com
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--- Comment #5 from Leslie Satenstein <lsatenstein(a)yahoo.com> ---
Peter,
I have another system with the latam keyboard layout. I occasionally write
Spanish.
When I switch from ca(fr) to Spanish and back gain, the « and » (should be <
and > ) are not mapped correctly.
I will first wait for the anaconda fix, and then follow through with wnat I
consider Gnome application bugs.
My euro on the E key works with kde, but disppears if I switch to Gnome.
Time again after go live with F18 to add in the extra buglets. (little bugs)
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--- Comment #6 from Leslie Satenstein <lsatenstein(a)yahoo.com> ---
I am available for downloading and testing a TC4 with a bug fix. I realize that
potential go live is 8 January and it is 6 days away. There may not be too much
time to test.
I am available to test. Send me an email if I am to pick up a patched TC3 as
TC4. I will check every 3 hours for a test iso.
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--- Comment #7 from Vratislav Podzimek <vpodzime(a)redhat.com> ---
We are just providing X layouts defined in X server configuration registry. We
use libxklavier for that and libgnomekbd to show the a particular layout. I'm
afraid Anaconda can hardly do anything here.
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--- Comment #8 from Peter Hutterer <peter.hutterer(a)redhat.com> ---
Right, there are a few issues conflated here and it's a bit confusing. I'll try
to summarise, Leslie, please comment on this:
We're talking about the install here, not the installed product, right?
Dual-languages: if you add the language, anaconda will use both languages but
only one is active at a time (this is standard X behaviour). you'll need to
configure layout switching in that same dialog box to be able to change.
there's no option for the euro key though, you'll likely have to configure that
after the install.
if your euro key disappears in gnome you haven't set it in the gnome options
yet, and you need to do so manually. kde and gnome don't share the same
keyboard config settings.
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Leslie Satenstein <lsatenstein(a)yahoo.com> changed:
What |Removed |Added
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Status|NEW |CLOSED
Resolution|--- |WORKSFORME
Last Closed| |2013-01-03 19:21:38
--- Comment #9 from Leslie Satenstein <lsatenstein(a)yahoo.com> ---
The original problem with vconsole only showing the English US keyboard was
corrected with a yum update to xkeyboard-config.noarch 0:2.6-6.fc18.
The keyboard in vconsole is correct.
My setting was to do menu switching, and this is working.
So as far as vconsole is concerned, this is solved for me.
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Leslie Satenstein <lsatenstein(a)yahoo.com> changed:
What |Removed |Added
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Status|CLOSED |ASSIGNED
Resolution|WORKSFORME |---
Keywords| |Reopened
--- Comment #10 from Leslie Satenstein <lsatenstein(a)yahoo.com> ---
Did further testing. The problem isw still there. xkeyboard-condfig...
mentioned in comment 9 does not apply.
Please delete comment 9
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--- Comment #11 from Leslie Satenstein <lsatenstein(a)yahoo.com> ---
libgnomekbd appears to be a problem with depicting some keyboard layouts.
With PC105, there is an extra key between the Z (lower left ) and the left
shift key.
This key for the Canadian French keyboard is the French Quotation marks
( « » and ° ).
This key is also omitted from the English (USA) where it contains < > and °
My version of Fedoraaa 17 shows the keytops correctly,
If you require some print screen images. please advise.
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--- Comment #12 from Leslie Satenstein <lsatenstein(a)yahoo.com> ---
(In reply to comment #0)
Description of problem:
There is an annaconda problem, and a keyboard layout definition problem and
a physical keyboard layout problem.
Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable):
Fedora 18 RC1 32bit
How reproducible:
F18 RC1 is being installed with default as English language. But I need the
Canadian French Keyboard, as I write both English and French
I added the Canadian French keyboard and placed it first in the list.
Anaconda continues to ignore the CF keyboard mapping. Only way to force a
switch from the US default was is to delete the USA keyboard, which
activates the Cdn French version and then i added back the USA English.
The USA English physical layout is correct. The Canadian French Keyboard
must look like the USA English (PC105 layout). Missing is what configuration
we could do in the past (F16,F17), which was to allow one to assign the Euro
symbol to the alt-char E, or alt-char 5
So, Anaconda needs some correction to fix what I described, and the keyboard
selection physical layout needs to match the physical layout of the USA
English
Steps to Reproduce:
1.
2.
3.
Actual results:
Expected results:
Additional info:
This problem of USA English forever has been repaired. ttyx now is established
with the default keyboard setting.
I will check with F17, to see if, by changing from keyboard definition ca to
keyboard definition us, that the ttyx (virtual consoles) correspond.
I suspect not with Fedora 17, will confirm.
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--- Comment #13 from Leslie Satenstein <lsatenstein(a)yahoo.com> ---
I cannot adopt Fedora18 for work in English of French because the
Gnome Keyboard layout does not include the Euro character.
In Fedora 17, the Euro character is assigned to replace level3 5 (replaces ¤)
or as added to the E key as level3-e
No such facility exists to add the euro key.
New keyboards are being sold with the Euro character printed alongside the E
key.
Please check English(US) and French(Canada) layouts in Fedora 17 and migrate
those settings to Fedora 18.
We should be able to enter the Euro character from the keyboard.
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Leslie Satenstein <lsatenstein(a)yahoo.com> changed:
What |Removed |Added
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Summary|French Keyboard layout not |French Keyboard layout not
|following PC105 (physically |following PC105 (physically
|same as USA English), and |same as USA English), and
|Cannot allocate Eurosymbol |Cannot allocate Euro
|as altchar-E or altchar-5 |character as altchar3-E
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--- Comment #14 from Leslie Satenstein <lsatenstein(a)yahoo.com> ---
The Euro symbol is required on all Fedora keytop versions. Please at least
provide a solution for Fedora 18 and Fedora 19
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CC| |pnemade(a)redhat.com
--- Comment #15 from Parag <pnemade(a)redhat.com> ---
Have you tried gnome-tweak-tool application? Install and open gnome-tweak-tool
package. Select "Typing" to the left side. Then on Right side look for
"eurosign" and next to it map on available keys like 2,4,5,e
Also, you need to make sure you have AltGr enabled. Simple way to do this is
$setxkbmap -option lv3:ralt_switch
and then you can type euro character using "Right_Alt key + any of 2/4/5/e"
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--- Comment #16 from Leslie Satenstein <lsatenstein(a)yahoo.com> ---
The answer is no, I have not considered the tweaktool because the tweaktool was
not listed with yum the last time I looked. The tweaktool in F17 was and I
believe, not supported.
I will download and install the tweak and advise of success or failure.
At the same time, please look at the keyboard layout. For several years North
America has been using PC105 layout, which implies and rightly so, an
additional key to the left of the Z key.
If you require print screen of what it looks like, I can provide one.
Thank you Parag, for the prompt reply. Fedora 17 had a specific program that
one could use to est the Euro symbol. It would be more reasonable to port that
program to F18 and F19.
PS: Although not part of this bug report, I have switched to Cinnamon as the
DE. I can now do in one keystroke what took three keystrokes with Gnome.
After extensive use of Gnome 3.x my forefinger controling muscle and tendon are
very painful.
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--- Comment #17 from Leslie Satenstein <lsatenstein(a)yahoo.com> ---
Thank you for referring to the tweaktool. I did a yum gtweakui and it was
installed.
Please, if I search or software add/remove for the tag or keyword keyboard,
This application should have popped up.
So, now it is just to get the pc105 layout shown.
Thank you Parag
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--- Comment #18 from Leslie Satenstein <lsatenstein(a)yahoo.com> ---
I wish to correct my previous entry. The tweak added the Euro symbol to the
Gnome Terminal, but did not correct the virtual console terminal.
The Euro symbol has to appear in the virtual console (ctl-alt-F2... )
For what it is worth, Microsoft and Logitec sell keyboards in Canada with the
Euro symbol on the E key. I would think it is time to include the Euro on the
E-key.
I will follow up with standards Canada to have the government agree with the
layout.
By the way, Back at Fedora 6 time, I worked with Chris Tyler and the Government
of Quebec to standardize the Canada(French) layout.
Euro on E is what I will recommend. I believe that the ¤ is no longer a
currency symbol as it is not listed in XE World Currency Symbols
(http://www.xe.com/symbols.php)
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--- Comment #19 from Parag <pnemade(a)redhat.com> ---
you want to select ca xkb keymap and want to use euro symbol? Can I get some
Government reference and print screen of this French Canadian keyboard?
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--- Comment #20 from Leslie Satenstein <lsatenstein(a)yahoo.com> ---
Hi again
New keyboards in Canada are including the Euro symbol as an alternate on the E
key.
Is it possible to default this same character character to the Canadian French?
As well, the graphical layout is still pending an update where the missing key
needs to be inserted.
Between the Qwerty Z key and the left Shift or left Control is a key that has
« and » and at level 3 the °
This is a request to update the graphical image. If you need to know what is
the correct image, please view French Canadian Keyboard layout in Fedora 17.
In moving to Fedora 18, some important key assignments and graphical images
were not moved across.
I am contacting the Canadian Government to standardize the Euro Symbol on the E
key.
The symbol on the 5 key (¤) is a generic symbol for currency. It should
remain.
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--- Comment #21 from Leslie Satenstein <lsatenstein(a)yahoo.com> ---
Hi Pareg,
I have already sent these images out. Please review Fedora 17 CA(FR).
It has the proper layout.
By the way, I also type in Spanish with another keyboard (latam).
This keyboard already has the Euro symbol on level 3 of the E key.
and its image shows the extra key on the left of the Z key.
If you cannot get to a Fedora 17 system, I will start a live CD session and
create images.
BTW, For some reason I did not see your update (comment 19) in my emails. I am
following up on my own as I would like a correct version to appear for F18 and
F19.
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--- Comment #22 from Vratislav Podzimek <vpodzime(a)redhat.com> ---
I am sorry, but I got lost a bit here. To me it doesn't seem like an Anaconda
bug at all. We are using lixbklavier to get the list of available layouts and
libgnomekbd to display the layout. I believe this bug should be reassigned to
another component.
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New subject: [Fedora-i18n-bugs] [Bug 880494] French Keyboard layout not following PC105 (physically same as USA English), and Cannot allocate Euro character as altchar3-E
Product: Fedora
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--- Comment #23 from Leslie Satenstein <lsatenstein(a)yahoo.com> ---
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyboard_layout#Canadian
Canadian French (Quebec)
Canadian French keyboard layout
This keyboard layout is commonly used in Canada by French-speaking Canadians.
It is the most common layout for laptops and stand-alone keyboards targeting
French speakers. It can be used to type all accented French characters, as well
as some from other languages. It also serves all English functions as well. It
is popular mainly because of its close similarity to the basic US keyboard
commonly used by English-speaking Canadians, and is the standard for keyboards
in Quebec.
In some variants of this keyboard “Caps Lock” is “Fix Maj” or “Verr Maj”,
“Enter” is “Entrée”,[9] and “Esc” is “Échap”.
If not a anaconda bug, then please redirect it. Anaconda does not display the
keyboard described in wikipedia.org under keyboard_layout Canadian.
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New subject: [Fedora-i18n-bugs] [Bug 880494] French Keyboard layout not following PC105 (physically same as USA English), and Cannot allocate Euro character as altchar3-E
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--- Comment #24 from Parag <pnemade(a)redhat.com> ---
I am busy right now and will get back to this by next week. For me, it looks
this bug can be moved to xkeyboard-config component.
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New subject: [Fedora-i18n-bugs] [Bug 880494] French Keyboard layout not following PC105 (physically same as USA English), and Cannot allocate Euro character as altchar3-E
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--- Comment #25 from Parag <pnemade(a)redhat.com> ---
Leslie,
so, what is the problem exactly? Do you see Canadian French layout does not
have all the mappings as per that Wikipedia keyboard image reference?
I request you to please install Fedora 18 and report freshly what changes you
need in Canadian French Keyboard.
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New subject: [Fedora-i18n-bugs] [Bug 880494] French Keyboard layout not following PC105 (physically same as USA English), and Cannot allocate Euro character as altchar3-E
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--- Comment #26 from Peter Hutterer <peter.hutterer(a)redhat.com> ---
(In reply to comment #20)
New keyboards in Canada are including the Euro symbol as an alternate
on the
E key.
Is it possible to default this same character character to the Canadian
French?
this is available in xkb as option eurosign:e. (e.g. setxkbmap -layout ca
-option "eurosign:e"). Upstream xkeyboard-config is responsible for that, but
until it's part of the standard it'll remain an option. The wikipedia link you
pointed to does not yet include the euro symbol.
Either way, upstream bug can be filed here:
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=xkeyboard-config
If it worked in F17 it's likely because you (or a tool) added this option,
there's nothing in the git history to suggest this was taken out.
I'm quite confused about this bug now though. There are too many issues
conflated, so Leslie, please explain each issue and, preferably, file a
separate bug for each one.
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New subject: [Fedora-i18n-bugs] [Bug 880494] French Keyboard layout not following PC105 (physically same as USA English), and Cannot allocate Euro character as altchar3-E
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Vratislav Podzimek <vpodzime(a)redhat.com> changed:
What |Removed |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Status|ASSIGNED |NEW
Component|anaconda |xkeyboard-config
Assignee|vpodzime(a)redhat.com |peter.hutterer(a)redhat.com
--- Comment #27 from Vratislav Podzimek <vpodzime(a)redhat.com> ---
(In reply to comment #26)
(In reply to comment #20)
> New keyboards in Canada are including the Euro symbol as an alternate on the
> E key.
>
> Is it possible to default this same character character to the Canadian
> French?
this is available in xkb as option eurosign:e. (e.g. setxkbmap -layout ca
-option "eurosign:e"). Upstream xkeyboard-config is responsible for that,
but until it's part of the standard it'll remain an option.
Reassigning to
xkeyboard-config.
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New subject: [Fedora-i18n-bugs] [Bug 880494] French Keyboard layout not following PC105 (physically same as USA English), and Cannot allocate Euro character as altchar3-E
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--- Comment #28 from Leslie Satenstein <lsatenstein(a)yahoo.com> ---
Fedora 19 comment 27
The graphical representation of the keyboard does not show the additional key
between the Z and the left uppershift.
The USA, Canadian French, and Latim American keyboards include these.
The Euro symbol is another buglet for the Ca French keyboard.
It is now included in a new ENGLISH(USA) with Euro on the 5 key.
It is now included in the Latam keyboard layout with the Euro on the E key
Please, put it either on the E or 5 Key. (Microsoft put it on the E key).
I wrote the Quebec Government and they would accept either E or 5 key position
for the Euro
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Leslie Satenstein <lsatenstein(a)yahoo.com> changed:
What |Removed |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Version|18 |20
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Peter Hutterer <peter.hutterer(a)redhat.com> changed:
What |Removed |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Status|NEW |CLOSED
Resolution|--- |UPSTREAM
Last Closed|2013-01-03 19:21:38 |2013-11-19 03:43:25
--- Comment #29 from Peter Hutterer <peter.hutterer(a)redhat.com> ---
Please report this upstream. We don't deviate from the upstream keyboard
layouts in Fedora.
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=xkeyboard-config
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Leslie Satenstein <lsatenstein(a)yahoo.com> changed:
What |Removed |Added
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Status|CLOSED |MODIFIED
Resolution|UPSTREAM |---
--- Comment #30 from Leslie Satenstein <lsatenstein(a)yahoo.com> ---
Plesae explain to me what or who is upstream.
Why should Debian, Mint, Ubuntu, Arch get it right? And now, two years later,
no action.
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New subject: [Fedora-i18n-bugs] [Bug 880494] French Keyboard layout not following PC105 (physically same as USA English), and Cannot allocate Euro character as altchar3-E
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Peter Hutterer <peter.hutterer(a)redhat.com> changed:
What |Removed |Added
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Status|MODIFIED |CLOSED
Resolution|--- |UPSTREAM
Last Closed|2013-11-19 03:43:25 |2014-02-09 18:21:13
--- Comment #31 from Peter Hutterer <peter.hutterer(a)redhat.com> ---
Upstream is xkeyboard-config, which provides all the layout files. I linked to
the bugzilla for a reason.
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New subject: [Fedora-i18n-bugs] [Bug 880494] French Keyboard layout not following PC105 (physically same as USA English), and Cannot allocate Euro character as altchar3-E
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Leslie Satenstein <lsatenstein(a)yahoo.com> changed:
What |Removed |Added
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Status|CLOSED |MODIFIED
Resolution|UPSTREAM |---
--- Comment #32 from Leslie Satenstein <lsatenstein(a)yahoo.com> ---
Bug 1008502 bug 889494
Is an end-user supposed to know how to find this "Upstream".
Please post the information into 1008502.
Is the problem a Gnome problem or a Basic system problem?
I have tweaks tool not being able to assign the euro to the CA layout
I have the ttyn terminal without the Euro on X11,
It would be nice if someone went back to F18, saw how the keyboard layout was
presented, compared to what it looks like in Fedora 20, and did put everything
together for an action.
There is essentially three problems.
a) The differences in layouts (missing key not shown to the left of the qwerty
Z key) For at least CA and latam layouts, the two I use.
b) After tackling the layout, tackle the fact that with the CA layout, and
Gnome Tweak tool or by other means, there is no way to enable the Euro symbol
onto a key.
At least, I have corrected that for the gui via
/usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/ca by creating a new ca with the Euro pernenatnly
in place and since I was permanently adding the euro symbol to my "alt-3 E" , I
also included the yen at alt-3 Y.
But the changes here are not propagated to the ttyn (virtual terminals). I
could not find information about how to do it, so that I could ignore the two
years and a half years of inaction.
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Leslie Satenstein <lsatenstein(a)yahoo.com> changed:
What |Removed |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Status|MODIFIED |CLOSED
Resolution|--- |CURRENTRELEASE
Last Closed|2014-02-09 18:21:13 |2014-10-02 15:42:33
--- Comment #33 from Leslie Satenstein <lsatenstein(a)yahoo.com> ---
Please close this bug.
The problem has been resolved for the key assignment, but not for the wrong
keyboard layout (pc104 (wrong) vs pc105)
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