Minutes of 2016/02/25 meeting
by pravin.d.s@gmail.com
Hi All,
We had very happening meeting today. Minutes are as follows.
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#fedora-meeting: g11n
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Meeting started by pravins at 21:00:17 UTC. The full logs are available
athttps://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2016-02-25/g11n.2016-0...
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Meeting summary
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* agenda and roll call (pravins, 21:00:17)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2016-02-25
(pravins, 21:00:17)
* Upcoming schedule (pravins, 21:05:50)
* 2016-03-08 Alpha Freeze (*) (pravins, 21:05:50)
* 2016-03-08 Software String Freeze (pravins, 21:05:50)
* 2016-03-08 Change Checkpoint: Completion deadline (testable)
(pravins, 21:05:50)
* 2016-03-08 Bodhi activation point (pravins, 21:05:50)
* 2016-03-22 Alpha Release (pravins, 21:05:50)
* 2016-04-05 Software Translation Deadline (pravins, 21:05:52)
* 2016-04-19 Beta Freeze (*) (pravins, 21:05:54)
* 2016-04-19 Change Checkpoint: 100% Code Complete Deadline
(pravins, 21:05:56)
* LINK:
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.o...
(pravins, 21:06:18)
* LINK: http://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/ (pravins, 21:08:06)
* Fedor 24 L10N test day planning (pravins, 21:11:01)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/G11N/ticket/18 (pravins, 21:11:04)
* LINK:
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/fltg@lists.fedoraproject.or...
(pravins, 21:11:59)
* 29th March is decided as a L10N test day. (pravins, 21:12:47)
* Badge created during Fedora 22
https://badges.fedoraproject.org/badge/i18n-test-day-participant
(pravins, 21:17:27)
* Good to have badges for l10n, i18n and even for g11n. It will help
members to understand pieces as well. (pravins, 21:22:31)
* AGREED: Two badges for G11N test days (i18n and l10n) (pravins,
21:25:07)
* Implementing Fedora badges for translations in Zanata (pravins,
21:25:39)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/G11N/ticket/19 (pravins, 21:25:39)
* translation is a low-threshhold onboarding option for Fedora
(pravins, 21:31:01)
* Zanata and FedBus connect mostly happen with 3.9 release coming out
in April/May 2016. (pravins, 21:35:23)
* vFAD for Translations (pravins, 21:38:14)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/G11N/ticket/5 (pravins, 21:38:14)
* LINK: https://fedoramagazine.org/help-port-python-packages-python-3/
(decause, 21:45:35)
* LINK:
https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/help-port-python-packages-to-pyth...
(jflory7, 21:45:36)
* LINK:
https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/python-3-porting-fad-weve-done-lo...
(jflory7, 21:46:33)
* G11N planning for Fedora 24 (pravins, 21:56:18)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/G11N/ticket/16 (pravins, 21:56:18)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/G11N/List_of_Fedora_sites is
moving on (jibecfed, 21:59:06)
* https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/G11N/List_of_Fedora_sites is moving
on. (pravins, 21:59:40)
* Stop G11N mailing lists emails to trans, i18n and l10n (pravins,
22:00:48)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/G11N/ticket/20 (pravins, 22:00:48)
* Stop G11N mailing lists emails to trans, i18n and l10n (pravins,
22:01:36)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/G11N/ticket/20 (pravins, 22:01:36)
* AGREED: to stop broadcasting g11n list email. (pravins, 22:02:43)
* Open Floor (pravins, 22:03:03)
Meeting ended at 22:03:35 UTC.
Action Items
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Action Items, by person
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* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
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* pravins (149)
* decause (85)
* aeng (28)
* noriko (25)
* jibecfed (20)
* zodbot (16)
* Jobava (13)
* puiterwijk (10)
* jflory7 (10)
* jonatoni (4)
* ani (3)
* stickster (2)
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Pravin Satpute
8 years, 1 month
Re: Can we also have g11n meetings at EU-friendly times?
by pravin.d.s@gmail.com
On 22 February 2016 at 19:40, Baadur Jobava <jobaval10n(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Pravin,
>
> I can do it between 3PM UTC and 10PM UTC during weekdays, as well as
> mornings or evenings in the weekends.
>
Nice. Lets do it on 25th Feb 2016, 2100 UTC. So 7am BNE and 2am for IST.
I have created agenda page. [1] Please add more points.
Thanks,
Pravin Satpute
1. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/G11N/Meetings/2016-02-25
>
> Unfortunately, that means there's no way to fit a US timezone without
> trying it on a Saturday maybe.
>
> Jobava
>
> On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 12:41 PM, pravin.d.s(a)gmail.com <
> pravin.d.s(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Jobava,
>>
>> You have started this thread at perfect moment. We are having bi-weekly
>> G11N meeting focused on Translation+Zanata. We missed last
>> Traslation+Zanata meeting and must have one this week. We have lots of
>> topics. few are..
>> 1. Fedora 24 test days
>> 2. Translation badges
>> 3. Topics specific to priority translations.
>> 4. Zanata login stuff
>>
>> On 22 February 2016 at 15:24, Baadur Jobava <jobaval10n(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for your replies so far. Would one of these meetings work at
>>> maybe 4PM UTC, which is 5PM Central-Europe (6PM for me), 8PM India and 12PM
>>> Japan? This is unworkable for US people, so maybe a separate timeframe for
>>> EU-US.
>>>
>>
>> Agree with you. We need to find suitable time for EU-US so more
>> contributors can join. Since its either bi-weekly or monthly will try our
>> best to join :) Or even if we are not there we can follow logs and comment
>> on list :)
>>
>> Sat/Sun may be difficult. Please select any time on Wed/Thu/Fri suitable
>> for EU-US and update here on list for this week. Will join it.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> There could also be an Ambassador or Participation-related aspect to
>>> L10n, which I see is not yet being pushed in the Fedora communities.
>>> Translation is also a lower barrier to entry and can be a tool for
>>> onboarding people and getting them to have an impact directly and visibly.
>>>
>>
>> +1
>>
>> Regards,
>> Pravin Satpute
>>
>> 1. http://www.worldtimebuddy.com/?pl=1&lid=2174003,30,100,12&h=2174003
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Jobava
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 1:33 AM, Jean-Baptiste <
>>> jean-baptiste(a)holcroft.fr> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Le 21/02/2016 15:49, Noriko Mizumoto a écrit :
>>>>
>>>>> On 2016年02月22日 00:35, Baadur Jobava wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for your reply, Noriko!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is good idea too, so that translators can discuss only emea
>>>>>>> specific matter if any. Please count me in if this happens. How much
>>>>>>> level of demand exist?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One thing to do may be to mass-email people who contributed on Zanata
>>>>>> (or even the old Transifex contributors) to get them on board. I
>>>>>> suspect
>>>>>> many of them have no idea and have no communication channel to the
>>>>>> rest
>>>>>> of the community.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> All Fedora translators are basically required to take 'join' steps,
>>>>> which includes subscription of this trans at list ML and any local
>>>>> mailing list, just like you :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Therefore any of translators, who used to contribute in Transifex as
>>>>> Fedora Localization team, who moved from Transifex to Zanata, and who
>>>>> joined as new recently, all should receive this mail posted in trans at
>>>>> lists.
>>>>>
>>>>> There are #fedora-l10n channel and #fedora-g11n channel on freenode. We
>>>>> might be living in smaller world than we imagine? hehehe
>>>>>
>>>>> noriko
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jobava
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Feb 21, 2016 at 4:29 PM, Noriko Mizumoto
>>>>>> <noriko(a)fedoraproject.org <mailto:noriko@fedoraproject.org>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2016年02月22日 00:15, Baadur Jobava wrote:
>>>>>> > I also sent this message to the list g11n at
>>>>>> lists.fedoraproject.org <http://lists.fedoraproject.org>
>>>>>> > <http://lists.fedoraproject.org> but the message is still
>>>>>> waiting
>>>>>> > moderator approval. I am posting the same message here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is expected to be auto-approved, there might be something
>>>>>> wrong in
>>>>>> system?! I added Patrick, Infra team to have closer look.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > ---------
>>>>>> > Dear Fedora g11-ers,
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > All the g11 meetings are held during very early morning EU
>>>>>> time, or
>>>>>> > times not accessible easily (middle of week morning). Is it
>>>>>> possible to
>>>>>> > have some meetings in on a (Saturday/Sunday morning) OR
>>>>>> (evenings) UTC-wise.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you so much for raising this point!
>>>>>> This is one of our most concerns. We were trying to find good
>>>>>> time but
>>>>>> could not hear much suggestion from emea area.
>>>>>> I myself like to come up and join the meeting when the time
>>>>>> suits you,
>>>>>> and know many of us are feeling same. Please name the day and
>>>>>> the time
>>>>>> (in UTC), so we can start from there (and give adjustment if
>>>>>> needed).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is my personal preference but like to reserve my Sat/Sun
>>>>>> for my
>>>>>> family. But majority like, I will join.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > Thanks!
>>>>>> > ------------
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > If having these meetings is too difficult, then I suggest we
>>>>>> have a g11n
>>>>>> > section to the EMEA meetings and advertise those meetings on
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> > g11n/trans mailing lists.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is good idea too, so that translators can discuss only emea
>>>>>> specific matter if any. Please count me in if this happens. How
>>>>>> much
>>>>>> level of demand exist?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> noriko
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Thanks again.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Jobava
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > --
>>>>>> > trans mailing list
>>>>>> > trans(a)lists.fedoraproject.org <mailto:
>>>>>> trans(a)lists.fedoraproject.org>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/trans@lists.fedoraproject.org
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> trans mailing list
>>>>>> trans(a)lists.fedoraproject.org <mailto:
>>>>>> trans(a)lists.fedoraproject.org>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/trans@lists.fedoraproject.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>> trans mailing list
>>>>> trans(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
>>>>>
>>>>> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/trans@lists.fedoraproject.org
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> No problems for me to try a new schedule to see if there is more
>>>> contributors.
>>>>
>>>> Do you have an idea of specific EMEA subjects or subjects you would
>>>> like to discuss about and can't at the moment ?
>>>>
>>>> "mass email people who contributed on Zanata" can be a good idea to
>>>> annonce a particular test day, but I'm not sure about doing that for an IRC
>>>> meeting.
>>>>
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>> --
>>>> Jean-Baptiste Holcroft
>>>> --
>>>> trans mailing list
>>>> trans(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
>>>> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/trans@lists.fedoraproject.org
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> trans mailing list
>>> trans(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
>>> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/trans@lists.fedoraproject.org
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> trans mailing list
>> trans(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
>> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/trans@lists.fedoraproject.org
>>
>
>
> --
> trans mailing list
> trans(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/trans@lists.fedoraproject.org
>
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8 years, 1 month
Minutes of Today (2016/02/17) Internationalization meeting
by pravin.d.s@gmail.com
Hi all,
We had good meeting today. Minutes are as follows.
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#fedora-meeting: g11n (i18n)
============================
Meeting started by pravins at 06:00:10 UTC. The full logs are available
athttp://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2016-02-17/g11n_(i18n)....
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Meeting summary
---------------
* agenda and roll call (pravins, 06:00:39)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2016-02-17
(pravins, 06:00:39)
* Upcoming schedule (pravins, 06:07:23)
* 2016-02-23 Branch Fedora 24 from Rawhide (Rawhide becomes future
F25) (pravins, 06:07:24)
* 2016-03-08 Alpha Freeze (*) (pravins, 06:07:24)
* 2016-03-08 Software String Freeze (pravins, 06:07:24)
* 2016-03-08 Change Checkpoint: Completion deadline (testable)
(pravins, 06:07:24)
* 2016-03-08 Bodhi activation point (pravins, 06:07:24)
* 2016-03-22 Alpha Release (pravins, 06:07:26)
* #57: Fedora 24 change planning (pravins, 06:09:09)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/57 (pravins, 06:09:16)
* Glibc_Subpackaging builds are available for Fedora Rawhide, after
review from Carlos - mfabian will commit those. (pravins, 06:14:29)
* meta-packages langpacks-* are available in rawhide (pravins,
06:18:48)
* jibecfed planning to propose article in Fedora Magazine/Community
Blog for Status of Translation, Langpacks introduction and how to
contribute. (pravins, 06:27:04)
* ibus-fbterm_enhancement_for_ibus_1.5 is almost ready. (pravins,
06:30:32)
* #58: Prioritizing bugs for Fedora 24 release (pravins, 06:30:49)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/58 (pravins, 06:30:56)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/G11N/Fedora_24_G11N_Enhancements
(pravins, 06:31:11)
* list of Fedora websites not translatable
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/G11N/List_of_Fedora_sites (pravins,
06:38:50)
* LINK:
https://github.com/fedora-infra/fedmsg_meta_fedora_infrastructure/issues/...
(jibecfed, 06:42:49)
* jibecfed sending email on trans list with more details on Fedora
website translation status (pravins, 06:45:14)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-badges/ticket/221 (jibecfed,
06:50:03)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-badges/ticket/221 (pravins,
06:50:35)
* #60: Fedora 24 Test day planning (pravins, 06:51:56)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/60 (pravins, 06:51:57)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-qa/ticket/480 (pravins,
06:55:34)
* IDEA: Separate testday for Glibc locale subpackaging (pravins,
07:01:00)
* Planning for test day specifically to test Glibc Locale sub
packaging change. (pravins, 07:07:18)
* moving i18n test day planning discussion to mailing list. (pravins,
07:12:33)
* #61: FTBFS bugs for Rawhide (pravins) (pravins, 07:12:43)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/61 (pravins, 07:12:43)
* Open Floor (pravins, 07:15:17)
Meeting ended at 07:19:20 UTC.
Action Items
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Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
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* pravins (140)
* jibecfed (39)
* juhp (20)
* paragan (20)
* zodbot (16)
* mfabian (9)
* mtoh (7)
* tagoh_ (3)
* fujiwarat (3)
* anish_ (1)
* epico (1)
* suanand (1)
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8 years, 1 month
Re: Fedora Globalization meetup in Dev Conf 2016
by Remy DeCausemaker
On Jan 22, 2016 7:36 AM, "Noriko Mizumoto" <noriko(a)fedoraproject.org> wrote:
>
> On 2016年01月18日 15:05, pravin.d.s(a)gmail.com wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > * Most of the things have been done for my attendance to Dev Conf
2016. [1]
> > * Noriko is also travelling same time.
> > * If i remember correctly Zoltan is also travelling for Dev Conf.
> > * Mike Fabian from i18n team will be also there.
> > * Anyone else??
> > Also more members from Ambassadors group and also from council will
be there.
> >
> > Can we propose small meetup around couple of hours and touch up F24
> > pending task and other topics?
>
> Can I add something here, plus reminder :-)
>
> I had the chance to talk on irc (#fedora-g11n, so some of you noticed)
> with Gabriele and Justin from Ambassador team about the idea of the
> funding full travel cost and lodgment fee for flock/fudcon/fad
> attendance to best translators [1]. This just started as chatting and
> nothing concrete, not so easy, no promise, but I really like this idea
> and would like to discuss and move it forward if possible at a meetup.
> We are going to have a meeting with Remy during devconf anyway on this,
> please join if you are there.
Looking forward to the discussion! I'm also interested to continue the
discussion of coordinating all our language subprojects
(localization/internationalization/translation/docs.)
Keep me in the loop,
--RemyD.
>
> Reminder, everyone has already read the meeting minutes, we had
> discussed about l10n page clean-up, making it looks cooler. However, the
> wiki page (and possibly linked pages) have been localized so that
> clean-up can impact the localized page. Is any one interest to find
> right sustainable structure at meetup?
>
> [1]:https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-commops/ticket/29
> [Pravin's
> talk]:
https://devconfcz2016.sched.org/event/5m1f/development-activities-at-fedo...
> [noriko 's
> talk]:
https://devconfcz2016.sched.org/event/5nDB/localization-let-us-help-you-g...
>
>
> noriko
>
> >
> > Regards,
> > Pravin Satpute
> >
> > 1. http://devconf.cz/
> > _______________________________________________
> > g11n mailing list
> > g11n(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
> > http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/g11n@lists.fedoraproject.org
> >
> _______________________________________________
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