i18n February 2016

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#36: review gnome redesign plans for control-center Region and Languages
by Fedora Internationalization 22 Jun '16

22 Jun '16

#36: review gnome redesign plans for control-center Region and Languages -----------------------+------------------- Reporter: petersen | Owner: i18n@… Type: meeting | Status: new Priority: major | Keywords: Blocked By: | Blocking: -----------------------+------------------- = phenomenon = GNOME has plans to redesign Region and Languages in gnome-control-center. I thought it would be good to have more of us look over this and review it, so that we can provide early timely feedback on the planned design changes. https://wiki.gnome.org/Design/SystemSettings/RegionAndLanguage -- Ticket URL: <https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/36> Fedora Internationalization <http://fedorahosted.org/i18n/> Fedora i18n Project

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Minutes of 2016/02/25 meeting
by pravin.d.s＠gmail.com 25 Feb '16

25 Feb '16

Hi All, We had very happening meeting today. Minutes are as follows. ===================== #fedora-meeting: g11n ===================== Meeting started by pravins at 21:00:17 UTC. The full logs are available athttps://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2016-02-25/g11n.2016-02-… . Meeting summary --------------- * agenda and roll call (pravins, 21:00:17) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2016-02-25 (pravins, 21:00:17) * Upcoming schedule (pravins, 21:05:50) * 2016-03-08 Alpha Freeze (*) (pravins, 21:05:50) * 2016-03-08 Software String Freeze (pravins, 21:05:50) * 2016-03-08 Change Checkpoint: Completion deadline (testable) (pravins, 21:05:50) * 2016-03-08 Bodhi activation point (pravins, 21:05:50) * 2016-03-22 Alpha Release (pravins, 21:05:50) * 2016-04-05 Software Translation Deadline (pravins, 21:05:52) * 2016-04-19 Beta Freeze (*) (pravins, 21:05:54) * 2016-04-19 Change Checkpoint: 100% Code Complete Deadline (pravins, 21:05:56) * LINK: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org… (pravins, 21:06:18) * LINK: http://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/ (pravins, 21:08:06) * Fedor 24 L10N test day planning (pravins, 21:11:01) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/G11N/ticket/18 (pravins, 21:11:04) * LINK: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/fltg@lists.fedoraproject.org/… (pravins, 21:11:59) * 29th March is decided as a L10N test day. (pravins, 21:12:47) * Badge created during Fedora 22 https://badges.fedoraproject.org/badge/i18n-test-day-participant (pravins, 21:17:27) * Good to have badges for l10n, i18n and even for g11n. It will help members to understand pieces as well. (pravins, 21:22:31) * AGREED: Two badges for G11N test days (i18n and l10n) (pravins, 21:25:07) * Implementing Fedora badges for translations in Zanata (pravins, 21:25:39) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/G11N/ticket/19 (pravins, 21:25:39) * translation is a low-threshhold onboarding option for Fedora (pravins, 21:31:01) * Zanata and FedBus connect mostly happen with 3.9 release coming out in April/May 2016. (pravins, 21:35:23) * vFAD for Translations (pravins, 21:38:14) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/G11N/ticket/5 (pravins, 21:38:14) * LINK: https://fedoramagazine.org/help-port-python-packages-python-3/ (decause, 21:45:35) * LINK: https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/help-port-python-packages-to-python… (jflory7, 21:45:36) * LINK: https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/python-3-porting-fad-weve-done-lot-… (jflory7, 21:46:33) * G11N planning for Fedora 24 (pravins, 21:56:18) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/G11N/ticket/16 (pravins, 21:56:18) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/G11N/List_of_Fedora_sites is moving on (jibecfed, 21:59:06) * https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/G11N/List_of_Fedora_sites is moving on. (pravins, 21:59:40) * Stop G11N mailing lists emails to trans, i18n and l10n (pravins, 22:00:48) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/G11N/ticket/20 (pravins, 22:00:48) * Stop G11N mailing lists emails to trans, i18n and l10n (pravins, 22:01:36) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/G11N/ticket/20 (pravins, 22:01:36) * AGREED: to stop broadcasting g11n list email. (pravins, 22:02:43) * Open Floor (pravins, 22:03:03) Meeting ended at 22:03:35 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * pravins (149) * decause (85) * aeng (28) * noriko (25) * jibecfed (20) * zodbot (16) * Jobava (13) * puiterwijk (10) * jflory7 (10) * jonatoni (4) * ani (3) * stickster (2) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot Regards, Pravin Satpute

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Reminder: G11N meeting 2016/02/25 21:00 UTC
by pravin.d.s＠gmail.com 24 Feb '16

24 Feb '16

Hi All, We have discussed multiple time that G11N regular meeting time is not suitable for other regions, specifically for EMEA. Here we go with meeting time bit more friendly to CEST :) We had discussion about this on trans list earlier. [1] Agenda is available at [2], Please feel free to add other topics. Regards, Pravin Satpute 1. https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/trans@lists.fedoraproject.org… 2. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/G11N/Meetings/2016-02-25 _______________________________________________ g11n mailing list g11n(a)lists.fedoraproject.org http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/g11n@lists.fedoraproject.org

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Re: Can we also have g11n meetings at EU-friendly times?
by pravin.d.s＠gmail.com 24 Feb '16

24 Feb '16

On 22 February 2016 at 19:40, Baadur Jobava <jobaval10n(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Pravin, > > I can do it between 3PM UTC and 10PM UTC during weekdays, as well as > mornings or evenings in the weekends. > Nice. Lets do it on 25th Feb 2016, 2100 UTC. So 7am BNE and 2am for IST. I have created agenda page. [1] Please add more points. Thanks, Pravin Satpute 1. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/G11N/Meetings/2016-02-25 > > Unfortunately, that means there's no way to fit a US timezone without > trying it on a Saturday maybe. > > Jobava > > On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 12:41 PM, pravin.d.s(a)gmail.com < > pravin.d.s(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi Jobava, >> >> You have started this thread at perfect moment. We are having bi-weekly >> G11N meeting focused on Translation+Zanata. We missed last >> Traslation+Zanata meeting and must have one this week. We have lots of >> topics. few are.. >> 1. Fedora 24 test days >> 2. Translation badges >> 3. Topics specific to priority translations. >> 4. Zanata login stuff >> >> On 22 February 2016 at 15:24, Baadur Jobava <jobaval10n(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Thanks for your replies so far. Would one of these meetings work at >>> maybe 4PM UTC, which is 5PM Central-Europe (6PM for me), 8PM India and 12PM >>> Japan? This is unworkable for US people, so maybe a separate timeframe for >>> EU-US. >>> >> >> Agree with you. We need to find suitable time for EU-US so more >> contributors can join. Since its either bi-weekly or monthly will try our >> best to join :) Or even if we are not there we can follow logs and comment >> on list :) >> >> Sat/Sun may be difficult. Please select any time on Wed/Thu/Fri suitable >> for EU-US and update here on list for this week. Will join it. >> >> >>> >>> There could also be an Ambassador or Participation-related aspect to >>> L10n, which I see is not yet being pushed in the Fedora communities. >>> Translation is also a lower barrier to entry and can be a tool for >>> onboarding people and getting them to have an impact directly and visibly. >>> >> >> +1 >> >> Regards, >> Pravin Satpute >> >> 1. http://www.worldtimebuddy.com/?pl=1&lid=2174003,30,100,12&h=2174003 >> >> >>> >>> Jobava >>> >>> On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 1:33 AM, Jean-Baptiste < >>> jean-baptiste(a)holcroft.fr> wrote: >>> >>>> Le 21/02/2016 15:49, Noriko Mizumoto a écrit : >>>> >>>>> On 2016年02月22日 00:35, Baadur Jobava wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks for your reply, Noriko! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> This is good idea too, so that translators can discuss only emea >>>>>>> specific matter if any. Please count me in if this happens. How much >>>>>>> level of demand exist? >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> One thing to do may be to mass-email people who contributed on Zanata >>>>>> (or even the old Transifex contributors) to get them on board. I >>>>>> suspect >>>>>> many of them have no idea and have no communication channel to the >>>>>> rest >>>>>> of the community. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> All Fedora translators are basically required to take 'join' steps, >>>>> which includes subscription of this trans at list ML and any local >>>>> mailing list, just like you :-) >>>>> >>>>> Therefore any of translators, who used to contribute in Transifex as >>>>> Fedora Localization team, who moved from Transifex to Zanata, and who >>>>> joined as new recently, all should receive this mail posted in trans at >>>>> lists. >>>>> >>>>> There are #fedora-l10n channel and #fedora-g11n channel on freenode. We >>>>> might be living in smaller world than we imagine? hehehe >>>>> >>>>> noriko >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>> >>>>>> Jobava >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, Feb 21, 2016 at 4:29 PM, Noriko Mizumoto >>>>>> <noriko(a)fedoraproject.org <mailto:noriko@fedoraproject.org>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> On 2016年02月22日 00:15, Baadur Jobava wrote: >>>>>> > I also sent this message to the list g11n at >>>>>> lists.fedoraproject.org <http://lists.fedoraproject.org> >>>>>> > <http://lists.fedoraproject.org> but the message is still >>>>>> waiting >>>>>> > moderator approval. I am posting the same message here. >>>>>> >>>>>> It is expected to be auto-approved, there might be something >>>>>> wrong in >>>>>> system?! I added Patrick, Infra team to have closer look. >>>>>> >>>>>> > --------- >>>>>> > Dear Fedora g11-ers, >>>>>> > >>>>>> > All the g11 meetings are held during very early morning EU >>>>>> time, or >>>>>> > times not accessible easily (middle of week morning). Is it >>>>>> possible to >>>>>> > have some meetings in on a (Saturday/Sunday morning) OR >>>>>> (evenings) UTC-wise. >>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you so much for raising this point! >>>>>> This is one of our most concerns. We were trying to find good >>>>>> time but >>>>>> could not hear much suggestion from emea area. >>>>>> I myself like to come up and join the meeting when the time >>>>>> suits you, >>>>>> and know many of us are feeling same. Please name the day and >>>>>> the time >>>>>> (in UTC), so we can start from there (and give adjustment if >>>>>> needed). >>>>>> >>>>>> This is my personal preference but like to reserve my Sat/Sun >>>>>> for my >>>>>> family. But majority like, I will join. >>>>>> >>>>>> > Thanks! >>>>>> > ------------ >>>>>> > >>>>>> > If having these meetings is too difficult, then I suggest we >>>>>> have a g11n >>>>>> > section to the EMEA meetings and advertise those meetings on >>>>>> the >>>>>> > g11n/trans mailing lists. >>>>>> >>>>>> This is good idea too, so that translators can discuss only emea >>>>>> specific matter if any. Please count me in if this happens. How >>>>>> much >>>>>> level of demand exist? >>>>>> >>>>>> noriko >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Thanks again. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Jobava >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > -- >>>>>> > trans mailing list >>>>>> > trans(a)lists.fedoraproject.org <mailto: >>>>>> trans(a)lists.fedoraproject.org> >>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/trans@lists.fedoraproject.org >>>>>> > >>>>>> -- >>>>>> trans mailing list >>>>>> trans(a)lists.fedoraproject.org <mailto: >>>>>> trans(a)lists.fedoraproject.org> >>>>>> >>>>>> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/trans@lists.fedoraproject.org >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>> trans mailing list >>>>> trans(a)lists.fedoraproject.org >>>>> >>>>> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/trans@lists.fedoraproject.org >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> No problems for me to try a new schedule to see if there is more >>>> contributors. >>>> >>>> Do you have an idea of specific EMEA subjects or subjects you would >>>> like to discuss about and can't at the moment ? >>>> >>>> "mass email people who contributed on Zanata" can be a good idea to >>>> annonce a particular test day, but I'm not sure about doing that for an IRC >>>> meeting. >>>> >>>> Sincerely, >>>> -- >>>> Jean-Baptiste Holcroft >>>> -- >>>> trans mailing list >>>> trans(a)lists.fedoraproject.org >>>> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/trans@lists.fedoraproject.org >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> trans mailing list >>> trans(a)lists.fedoraproject.org >>> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/trans@lists.fedoraproject.org >>> >> >> >> -- >> trans mailing list >> trans(a)lists.fedoraproject.org >> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/trans@lists.fedoraproject.org >> > > > -- > trans mailing list > trans(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/trans@lists.fedoraproject.org > _______________________________________________ g11n mailing list g11n(a)lists.fedoraproject.org http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/g11n@lists.fedoraproject.org

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Can we also have g11n meetings at EU-friendly times?
by Baadur Jobava 23 Feb '16

23 Feb '16

Dear Fedora g11-ers, All the g11 meetings are held during very early morning EU time, or times not accessible easily (middle of week, morning). Is it possible to have some meetings in on a Saturday/Sunday morning or evenings (UTC-wise). Thanks! Jobava _______________________________________________ g11n mailing list g11n(a)lists.fedoraproject.org http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/g11n@lists.fedoraproject.org

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Minutes of Today (2016/02/17) Internationalization meeting
by pravin.d.s＠gmail.com 17 Feb '16

17 Feb '16

Hi all, We had good meeting today. Minutes are as follows. ============================ #fedora-meeting: g11n (i18n) ============================ Meeting started by pravins at 06:00:10 UTC. The full logs are available athttp://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2016-02-17/g11n_(i18n).20… . Meeting summary --------------- * agenda and roll call (pravins, 06:00:39) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2016-02-17 (pravins, 06:00:39) * Upcoming schedule (pravins, 06:07:23) * 2016-02-23 Branch Fedora 24 from Rawhide (Rawhide becomes future F25) (pravins, 06:07:24) * 2016-03-08 Alpha Freeze (*) (pravins, 06:07:24) * 2016-03-08 Software String Freeze (pravins, 06:07:24) * 2016-03-08 Change Checkpoint: Completion deadline (testable) (pravins, 06:07:24) * 2016-03-08 Bodhi activation point (pravins, 06:07:24) * 2016-03-22 Alpha Release (pravins, 06:07:26) * #57: Fedora 24 change planning (pravins, 06:09:09) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/57 (pravins, 06:09:16) * Glibc_Subpackaging builds are available for Fedora Rawhide, after review from Carlos - mfabian will commit those. (pravins, 06:14:29) * meta-packages langpacks-* are available in rawhide (pravins, 06:18:48) * jibecfed planning to propose article in Fedora Magazine/Community Blog for Status of Translation, Langpacks introduction and how to contribute. (pravins, 06:27:04) * ibus-fbterm_enhancement_for_ibus_1.5 is almost ready. (pravins, 06:30:32) * #58: Prioritizing bugs for Fedora 24 release (pravins, 06:30:49) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/58 (pravins, 06:30:56) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/G11N/Fedora_24_G11N_Enhancements (pravins, 06:31:11) * list of Fedora websites not translatable https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/G11N/List_of_Fedora_sites (pravins, 06:38:50) * LINK: https://github.com/fedora-infra/fedmsg_meta_fedora_infrastructure/issues/34… (jibecfed, 06:42:49) * jibecfed sending email on trans list with more details on Fedora website translation status (pravins, 06:45:14) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-badges/ticket/221 (jibecfed, 06:50:03) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-badges/ticket/221 (pravins, 06:50:35) * #60: Fedora 24 Test day planning (pravins, 06:51:56) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/60 (pravins, 06:51:57) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-qa/ticket/480 (pravins, 06:55:34) * IDEA: Separate testday for Glibc locale subpackaging (pravins, 07:01:00) * Planning for test day specifically to test Glibc Locale sub packaging change. (pravins, 07:07:18) * moving i18n test day planning discussion to mailing list. (pravins, 07:12:33) * #61: FTBFS bugs for Rawhide (pravins) (pravins, 07:12:43) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/61 (pravins, 07:12:43) * Open Floor (pravins, 07:15:17) Meeting ended at 07:19:20 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * pravins (140) * jibecfed (39) * juhp (20) * paragan (20) * zodbot (16) * mfabian (9) * mtoh (7) * tagoh_ (3) * fujiwarat (3) * anish_ (1) * epico (1) * suanand (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot Regards, Pravin _______________________________________________ g11n mailing list g11n(a)lists.fedoraproject.org http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/g11n@lists.fedoraproject.org

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Reminder: G11N meeting I18N focused tomorrow At 06:00 UTC
by pravin.d.s＠gmail.com 16 Feb '16

16 Feb '16

Hi all, We have meeting tomorrow At #fedora-meeting (Freenode). Agenda is available at [1]. Feel free to suggest missing points. Regards, Pravin Satpute 1. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2016-02-17 _______________________________________________ g11n mailing list g11n(a)lists.fedoraproject.org http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/g11n@lists.fedoraproject.org

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Fedora 24 L10n Test Day Proposal
by Ani Peter 10 Feb '16

10 Feb '16

Hi, Its time to decide the date for Fedora 24 L10n Test Day!! As per Fedora 24 schedule [1], Alpha Release is on 22nd March and the Software translation deadline falls on 5th April. Can we have the Fedora 24 L10n test day on 29th March (Tuesday) ? We will thus have time to test the ISO for L10n and the test cases. L10n team will have one week time to fix the translations before 5th April. What do you guys think? Thanking you Best regards Ani Peter FLTG Member [1] - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/24/Schedule _______________________________________________ g11n mailing list g11n(a)lists.fedoraproject.org http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/g11n@lists.fedoraproject.org

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Re: Fedora Globalization meetup in Dev Conf 2016
by Remy DeCausemaker 06 Feb '16

06 Feb '16

On Jan 22, 2016 7:36 AM, "Noriko Mizumoto" <noriko(a)fedoraproject.org> wrote: > > On 2016年01月18日 15:05, pravin.d.s(a)gmail.com wrote: > > Hi All, > > > > * Most of the things have been done for my attendance to Dev Conf 2016. [1] > > * Noriko is also travelling same time. > > * If i remember correctly Zoltan is also travelling for Dev Conf. > > * Mike Fabian from i18n team will be also there. > > * Anyone else?? > > Also more members from Ambassadors group and also from council will be there. > > > > Can we propose small meetup around couple of hours and touch up F24 > > pending task and other topics? > > Can I add something here, plus reminder :-) > > I had the chance to talk on irc (#fedora-g11n, so some of you noticed) > with Gabriele and Justin from Ambassador team about the idea of the > funding full travel cost and lodgment fee for flock/fudcon/fad > attendance to best translators [1]. This just started as chatting and > nothing concrete, not so easy, no promise, but I really like this idea > and would like to discuss and move it forward if possible at a meetup. > We are going to have a meeting with Remy during devconf anyway on this, > please join if you are there. Looking forward to the discussion! I'm also interested to continue the discussion of coordinating all our language subprojects (localization/internationalization/translation/docs.) Keep me in the loop, --RemyD. > > Reminder, everyone has already read the meeting minutes, we had > discussed about l10n page clean-up, making it looks cooler. However, the > wiki page (and possibly linked pages) have been localized so that > clean-up can impact the localized page. Is any one interest to find > right sustainable structure at meetup? > > [1]:https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-commops/ticket/29 > [Pravin's > talk]: https://devconfcz2016.sched.org/event/5m1f/development-activities-at-fedora… > [noriko 's > talk]: https://devconfcz2016.sched.org/event/5nDB/localization-let-us-help-you-get… > > > noriko > > > > > Regards, > > Pravin Satpute > > > > 1. http://devconf.cz/ > > _______________________________________________ > > g11n mailing list > > g11n(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > > http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/g11n@lists.fedoraproject.org > > > _______________________________________________ > g11n mailing list > g11n(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/g11n@lists.fedoraproject.org > -- > trans mailing list > trans(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/trans@lists.fedoraproject.org _______________________________________________ g11n mailing list g11n(a)lists.fedoraproject.org http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/g11n@lists.fedoraproject.org

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G11N Meetups at Dev Conf 2016
by pravin.d.s＠gmail.com 05 Feb '16

05 Feb '16

Hi All, Just met with Noriko and done planning for meetings. Unfortunately Devconf is already packed with number of talks and meetups on 7th. Even meeting rooms are full. We got following slots. * 5th Feb* * Globalization meetup (Mostly on FLTG) side. [1]* - Tme: 01:00 - 2:00pm - Location: Room No: A-8218, DevConf 2016 Venue * 6th Feb* * Localization meetup* [2] - Tme: 4:00-5:30pm - Location: Room No: A-8211, DevConf 2016 Venue Please feel free to suggest agenda and add your name. Regards, Pravin Satpute 1. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/G11N/Meetup_DevConf_2016#Globalization_meetup 2. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/G11N/Meetup_DevConf_2016#Localization_meetup _______________________________________________ g11n mailing list g11n(a)lists.fedoraproject.org http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/g11n@lists.fedoraproject.org

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