Hi Bex and Alick,
We already add the goal of this FUDCon APAC 2017 and why we held in Depok City in the wiki.
Fo the concern about team : We only two for now just for prepare bid proposal. After we get green light about it. We plan ask student council in University to join as Local Committee. And we plan open registration for volunteer. We need about 10% from total participants, around 30-35 people.
For Ticket sale like bex already mention before : Ticket sale is commonly in Indonesia. Why not set as free? Because when we set free, people just register but not come for event. It is make difficult for local committee. This decision (Ticket Sale) base on our experience from GNOME.Asia Summit 2015 at Depok, and openSUSE.Asia Summit 2016 last October in Yogyakarta.
Travel expense just for speaker and some people who make contribution for Fedora (Amba, etc). For ordinary people, they just come with their budget. We will spend budget from ticket sale to t-shirt and meal. Why we cover meal for each attendee? Because it will save time for people search food court and keep attendee in conference venue.
Thank You.
On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 1:57 AM, Brian Exelbierd bex@pobox.com wrote:
On Wed, Dec 7, 2016, at 07:48 PM, Alick Zhao wrote:
- Ticket sale. AFAIK FUDCon is always free for everyone to attend, both
as in "freedom" and "free beer". So "selling" a ticket does not sound quite right to me. I suggest free entrance while accepting donation instead. Besides, you need to ensure the income is fully used to cover logistics, travel expense of FUDCon.
Leaving aside the how do we collect the money and ensure it is used properly question, I think your second question merits further discussion.
I recognize that we have traditionally said both forms of free. However, I also recognize that in some cultures if an event is free it is considered to have no value by the community and therefore will receive poor attendance, attendance from individuals who are not in the target audience and/or lots of no-shows.
I think we should explore whether breaking "free as in beer" while preserving "free as in speech" is appropriate for some events.
Ultimately, I think this may need to go to the council, but a healthy debate here is critical as Ambassadors are the people most directly knowledgeable about their regions and cultures.
regards,
bex
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2016-12-08 13:54 GMT+08:00 Prima Yogi Loviniltra < jurankdankkal@fedoraproject.org>:
Hi Bex and Alick,
We already add the goal of this FUDCon APAC 2017 and why we held in Depok City in the wiki.
Fo the concern about team : We only two for now just for prepare bid proposal. After we get green light about it. We plan ask student council in University to join as Local Committee. And we plan open registration for volunteer. We need about 10% from total participants, around 30-35 people.
For Ticket sale like bex already mention before : Ticket sale is commonly in Indonesia. Why not set as free? Because when we set free, people just register but not come for event. It is make difficult for local committee. This decision (Ticket Sale) base on our experience from GNOME.Asia Summit 2015 at Depok, and openSUSE.Asia Summit 2016 last October in Yogyakarta.
Travel expense just for speaker and some people who make contribution for Fedora (Amba, etc). For ordinary people, they just come with their budget. We will spend budget from ticket sale to t-shirt and meal. Why we cover meal for each attendee? Because it will save time for people search food court and keep attendee in conference venue.
Thank You.
On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 1:57 AM, Brian Exelbierd bex@pobox.com wrote:
On Wed, Dec 7, 2016, at 07:48 PM, Alick Zhao wrote:
- Ticket sale. AFAIK FUDCon is always free for everyone to attend, both
as in "freedom" and "free beer". So "selling" a ticket does not sound quite right to me. I suggest free entrance while accepting donation instead. Besides, you need to ensure the income is fully used to cover logistics, travel expense of FUDCon.
Leaving aside the how do we collect the money and ensure it is used properly question, I think your second question merits further discussion.
I recognize that we have traditionally said both forms of free. However, I also recognize that in some cultures if an event is free it is considered to have no value by the community and therefore will receive poor attendance, attendance from individuals who are not in the target audience and/or lots of no-shows.
I think we should explore whether breaking "free as in beer" while preserving "free as in speech" is appropriate for some events.
Ultimately, I think this may need to go to the council, but a healthy debate here is critical as Ambassadors are the people most directly knowledgeable about their regions and cultures.
regards,
bex
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Pada tanggal 8 Des 2016 20.05, "Bau Irfan" bauirfanalfajri@gmail.com menulis:
salam.. saya bisa gabung sebagai panitia?
hi irfan
silahkan menghubungi prima yogi sebagai maintainer
oh iya list ini di cc ke grup ambassadors, biar teman2 yg diluar indo ngerti pakai bahasa inggris (y)
2016-12-08 13:54 GMT+08:00 Prima Yogi Loviniltra <
jurankdankkal@fedoraproject.org>:
Hi Bex and Alick,
We already add the goal of this FUDCon APAC 2017 and why we held in
Depok City in the wiki.
Fo the concern about team : We only two for now just for prepare bid proposal. After we get green
light about it. We plan ask student council in University to join as Local Committee. And we plan open registration for volunteer. We need about 10% from total participants, around 30-35 people.
For Ticket sale like bex already mention before : Ticket sale is commonly in Indonesia. Why not set as free? Because when
we set free, people just register but not come for event. It is make difficult for local committee. This decision (Ticket Sale) base on our experience from GNOME.Asia Summit 2015 at Depok, and openSUSE.Asia Summit 2016 last October in Yogyakarta.
Travel expense just for speaker and some people who make contribution
for Fedora (Amba, etc). For ordinary people, they just come with their budget.
We will spend budget from ticket sale to t-shirt and meal. Why we cover
meal for each attendee? Because it will save time for people search food court and keep attendee in conference venue.
Thank You.
On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 1:57 AM, Brian Exelbierd bex@pobox.com wrote:
On Wed, Dec 7, 2016, at 07:48 PM, Alick Zhao wrote:
- Ticket sale. AFAIK FUDCon is always free for everyone to attend,
both as in "freedom" and "free beer". So "selling" a ticket does not sound quite right to me. I suggest free entrance while accepting donation instead. Besides, you need to ensure the income is fully used to cover logistics, travel expense of FUDCon.
Leaving aside the how do we collect the money and ensure it is used
properly question, I think your second question merits further discussion.
I recognize that we have traditionally said both forms of free.
However, I also recognize that in some cultures if an event is free it is considered to have no value by the community and therefore will receive poor attendance, attendance from individuals who are not in the target audience and/or lots of no-shows.
I think we should explore whether breaking "free as in beer" while
preserving "free as in speech" is appropriate for some events.
Ultimately, I think this may need to go to the council, but a healthy
debate here is critical as Ambassadors are the people most directly knowledgeable about their regions and cultures.
regards,
bex
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ambassadors-leave@lists.fedoraproject.org
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