Re: [Ambassadors] Re: FUDCon Depok, Indonesia 2017 Bidding Announcement

[Prima Yogi Loviniltra]

Hi Bex and Alick,

We already add the goal of this FUDCon APAC 2017 and why we held in Depok
City in the wiki.

Fo the concern about team :
We only two for now just for prepare bid proposal. After we get green light
about it. We plan ask student council in University to join as Local
Committee. And we plan open registration for volunteer. We need about 10%
from total participants, around 30-35 people.

For Ticket sale like bex already mention before :
Ticket sale is commonly in Indonesia. Why not set as free? Because when we
set free, people just register but not come for event. It is make difficult
for local committee. This decision (Ticket Sale) base on our experience
from GNOME.Asia Summit 2015 at Depok, and openSUSE.Asia Summit 2016 last
October in Yogyakarta.

Travel  expense just for speaker and some people who make contribution for
Fedora (Amba, etc). For ordinary people, they just come with their budget.
We will spend budget from ticket sale to t-shirt and meal. Why we cover
meal for each attendee? Because it will save time for people search food
court and keep attendee in conference venue.

Thank You.



On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 1:57 AM, Brian Exelbierd <bex(a)pobox.com&gt; wrote:

>  On Wed, Dec 7, 2016, at 07:48 PM, Alick Zhao wrote:
>
>  2. Ticket sale. AFAIK FUDCon is always free for everyone to attend, both
>  as in "freedom" and "free beer". So "selling" a ticket does
> not sound quite
>  right to me. I suggest free entrance while accepting donation instead.
>  Besides, you need to ensure the income is fully used to cover logistics,
>  travel expense of FUDCon.
>
>
>  Leaving aside the how do we collect the money and ensure it is used
>  properly question, I think your second question merits further discussion.
>
>  I recognize that we have traditionally said both forms of free.  However,
>  I also recognize that in some cultures if an event is free it is considered
>  to have no value by the community and therefore will receive poor
>  attendance, attendance from individuals who are not in the target audience
>  and/or lots of  no-shows.
>
>  I think we should explore whether breaking "free as in beer" while
>  preserving "free as in speech" is appropriate for some events.
>
>  Ultimately, I think this may need to go to the council, but a healthy
>  debate here is critical as Ambassadors are the people most directly
>  knowledgeable about their regions and cultures.
>
>  regards,
>
>  bex
>
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*Best Regards,*

*PRIMA YOGI LOVINILTRA*
>  *http://loviniltra.nyc/ <http://loviniltra.nyc/> <*

[Ambassadors] Re: FUDCon Depok, Indonesia 2017 Bidding Announcement

[Bau Irfan]

salam..
saya bisa gabung sebagai panitia?

2016-12-08 13:54 GMT+08:00 Prima Yogi Loviniltra <
jurankdankkal(a)fedoraproject.org&gt;:

>  Hi Bex and Alick,
>
>  We already add the goal of this FUDCon APAC 2017 and why we held in Depok
>  City in the wiki.
>
>  Fo the concern about team :
>  We only two for now just for prepare bid proposal. After we get green
>  light about it. We plan ask student council in University to join as Local
>  Committee. And we plan open registration for volunteer. We need about 10%
>  from total participants, around 30-35 people.
>
>  For Ticket sale like bex already mention before :
>  Ticket sale is commonly in Indonesia. Why not set as free? Because when we
>  set free, people just register but not come for event. It is make difficult
>  for local committee. This decision (Ticket Sale) base on our experience
>  from GNOME.Asia Summit 2015 at Depok, and openSUSE.Asia Summit 2016 last
>  October in Yogyakarta.
>
>  Travel  expense just for speaker and some people who make contribution for
>  Fedora (Amba, etc). For ordinary people, they just come with their budget.
>  We will spend budget from ticket sale to t-shirt and meal. Why we cover
>  meal for each attendee? Because it will save time for people search food
>  court and keep attendee in conference venue.
>
>  Thank You.
>
>
>
>  On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 1:57 AM, Brian Exelbierd <bex(a)pobox.com&gt; wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Dec 7, 2016, at 07:48 PM, Alick Zhao wrote:
> >
> > 2. Ticket sale. AFAIK FUDCon is always free for everyone to attend, both
> > as in "freedom" and "free beer". So "selling" a ticket
> does not sound quite
> > right to me. I suggest free entrance while accepting donation instead.
> > Besides, you need to ensure the income is fully used to cover logistics,
> > travel expense of FUDCon.
> >
> >
> > Leaving aside the how do we collect the money and ensure it is used
> > properly question, I think your second question merits further discussion.
> >
> > I recognize that we have traditionally said both forms of free.  However,
> > I also recognize that in some cultures if an event is free it is considered
> > to have no value by the community and therefore will receive poor
> > attendance, attendance from individuals who are not in the target audience
> > and/or lots of  no-shows.
> >
> > I think we should explore whether breaking "free as in beer" while
> > preserving "free as in speech" is appropriate for some events.
> >
> > Ultimately, I think this may need to go to the council, but a healthy
> > debate here is critical as Ambassadors are the people most directly
> > knowledgeable about their regions and cultures.
> >
> > regards,
> >
> > bex
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > To unsubscribe send an email to ambassadors-leave(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
> >
> >
>
>
>  --
>  *Best Regards,*
>
>  *PRIMA YOGI LOVINILTRA*
>  > *http://loviniltra.nyc/ <http://loviniltra.nyc/> <*
>
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>

[Ambassadors] Re: FUDCon Depok, Indonesia 2017 Bidding Announcement

[ekoikhyar]

- i am mobile now -

Eko Ikhyar

Fermentis & Kombucha brewer
Mobile: [phone]


Pada tanggal 8 Des 2016 20.05, "Bau Irfan" <bauirfanalfajri(a)gmail.com&gt;
menulis:
>  salam..
>  saya bisa gabung sebagai panitia?
>  
hi irfan

silahkan menghubungi prima yogi sebagai maintainer

oh iya list ini di cc ke grup ambassadors, biar teman2 yg diluar indo
ngerti pakai bahasa inggris (y)

>  2016-12-08 13:54 GMT+08:00 Prima Yogi Loviniltra <
jurankdankkal(a)fedoraproject.org&gt;:
> >
> > Hi Bex and Alick,
> >
> > We already add the goal of this FUDCon APAC 2017 and why we held in 
Depok City
in the wiki.
> >
> > Fo the concern about team :
> > We only two for now just for prepare bid proposal. After we get green 
light
about it. We plan ask student council in University to join as Local
Committee. And we plan open registration for volunteer. We need about 10%
from total participants, around 30-35 people.
> >
> > For Ticket sale like bex already mention before :
> > Ticket sale is commonly in Indonesia. Why not set as free? Because when 
we set
free, people just register but not come for event. It is make
difficult for local committee. This decision (Ticket Sale) base on our
experience from GNOME.Asia Summit 2015 at Depok, and openSUSE.Asia Summit
2016 last October in Yogyakarta.
> >
> > Travel  expense just for speaker and some people who make contribution 
for
Fedora (Amba, etc). For ordinary people, they just come with their
budget.
> > We will spend budget from ticket sale to t-shirt and meal. Why we
> cover 
meal for each attendee? Because it will save time for people search food
court and keep attendee in conference venue.
> >
> > Thank You.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 1:57 AM, Brian Exelbierd <bex(a)pobox.com&gt; wrote:
> >>
> >> On Wed, Dec 7, 2016, at 07:48 PM, Alick Zhao wrote:
> >>>
> >>> 2. Ticket sale. AFAIK FUDCon is always free for everyone to attend,
both as in "freedom" and "free beer". So "selling" a
ticket does not sound
quite right to me. I suggest free entrance while accepting donation
instead. Besides, you need to ensure the income is fully used to cover
logistics, travel expense of FUDCon.
> >>
> >>
> >> Leaving aside the how do we collect the money and ensure it is used
properly question, I think your second question merits further discussion.
> >>
> >> I recognize that we have traditionally said both forms of free. 
However, I
also recognize that in some cultures if an event is free it is
considered to have no value by the community and therefore will receive
poor attendance, attendance from individuals who are not in the target
audience and/or lots of  no-shows.
> >>
> >> I think we should explore whether breaking "free as in beer" while
preserving "free as in speech" is appropriate for some events.
> >>
> >> Ultimately, I think this may need to go to the council, but a healthy
debate here is critical as Ambassadors are the people most directly
knowledgeable about their regions and cultures.
> >>
> >> regards,
> >>
> >> bex
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> ambassadors mailing list -- ambassadors(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
> >> To unsubscribe send an email to 
ambassadors-leave(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Best Regards,
> >
> > PRIMA YOGI LOVINILTRA
> > > http://loviniltra.nyc/ <
> >
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id-community-leave(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
> >
>
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