Tidbits of Problems

[das]

Hello Friends

I know this mail should better go to fedora-users list, but, the
helpline works faster, at least for me, with this list. I am a bit
uncertain about one or two things with F11 that I am using now both on
my laptop and desktop. Let me list them. Both of them Intel C2, with
Xfce as the desktop. None of the problems are urgent, but they are
obviously irritating.

1. With the laptop, everytime I run 'gnome-mouse-properties' or
'gsynaptics' from the command line, the touchpad starts functioning
properly. In case of 'gnome-mouse-properties' I don't even have to
change the settings, my selected settings are already there. The
moment I start it, the tap starts functioning and I just check it once
on the bulb, and come out. But the next time I start machine or start
Xfce, the tap is gone. In case of 'gsynaptics' the settings are not
retained. If I start it and select the options, they start
functioning, but with a restart or re-login the settings are not
retained.

2. On none of the machines the audio is functioning correctly. The
volume level is extremely low. The command line option 'mplayer
-softvol' is rescuing me from the situation but with a lot of loss of
quality. In fact in my bin I have kept a script with all the softvol
options given. Is 'pulseaudio' the culprit? I tried to erase
pulseaudio, but it will erase so many other things as dependency, even
OpenOffice.org Writer that is a must for me. Should I try erasing
pulseaudio and then reinstalling those necessary things?

3. Now I see in my repository list, both Fedora 10.93 and Rawhide are
there, and the rpmfusion repo for 'rawhide', free and non-free. Should
I now check the 'rawhide' thing off because F11 is almost near
completion? Can both 10.93 and rawhide be there, or it was a product
of some ignorant move on my part?

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[Rahul Sundaram]

On 05/08/2009 08:59 AM, das wrote:

[ My Fedora 11 FAQ at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_FAQ
covers all this already but mediawiki caches old content and hence I am
going to be copy pasting from it]

>  1. With the laptop, everytime I run 'gnome-mouse-properties'
> or
>  'gsynaptics' from the command line, the touchpad starts functioning
>  properly. In case of 'gnome-mouse-properties' I don't even have to
>  change the settings, my selected settings are already there. The
>  moment I start it, the tap starts functioning and I just check it once
>  on the bulb, and come out. But the next time I start machine or start
>  Xfce, the tap is gone.  
Are you saying that the settings are not retained?  Does that happen
only in Xfce or in GNOME as well?

---

"The new upstream Synaptics driver disables tapping by default. You can
trivially enable this in GNOME. System => Preferences = Mouse. Go to the
third tab called "Touchpad" and click on the checkbox "Enable mouse
clicks with touchpad".

Settings in /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/20thirdparty/10-synaptics.fdi
(which should be copied to /etc/hal/fdi/policy/ before changing) will
operate at the gdm login screen but will be over-ridden by the gnome
settings once logged in. For other desktops where there is no synaptics
gui interface, use the policy file to enable features or you can just
enable basic tapping from a command line with: "synclient TapButton1=1",
see "man synaptics" for further options. "

>  
>  2. On none of the machines the audio is functioning correctly. The
>  volume level is extremely low. The command line option 'mplayer
>  -softvol' is rescuing me from the situation but with a lot of loss of
>  quality. In fact in my bin I have kept a script with all the softvol
>  options given. Is 'pulseaudio' the culprit? I tried to erase
>  pulseaudio, but it will erase so many other things as dependency, even
>  OpenOffice.org Writer that is a must for me. Should I try erasing
>  pulseaudio and then reinstalling those necessary things? 
"Run alsamixer -c0 in the command line and turn up the controls and
check again. If that fixes your issue, please help us provide a better
out of box solution by filing a bug report as detailed in

http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg02321.html "

>  3. Now I see in my repository list, both Fedora 10.93 and Rawhide
> are
>  there, and the rpmfusion repo for 'rawhide', free and non-free. Should
>  I now check the 'rawhide' thing off because F11 is almost near
>  completion? Can both 10.93 and rawhide be there, or it was a product
>  of some ignorant move on my part? 
Only rawhide should be there. You can disable the other repo which
appears to have been enabled manually. Rawhide to general repo
conversion will happen automatically.

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading_from_pre-release_to_final

Verify with yum repolist post-release.

Rahul

[das]

On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Rahul Sundaram
<sundaram(a)fedoraproject.org&gt; wrote:
>  On 05/08/2009 08:59 AM, das wrote:
>
>  [ My Fedora 11 FAQ at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_FAQ
>  covers all this already but mediawiki caches old content and hence I am
>  going to be copy pasting from it] 

Thanks for this link.


>  Are you saying that the settings are not retained?  Does that happen
>  only in Xfce or in GNOME as well? 

My Desktop is Xfce by default, and now that you asked it, I logged in
into Gnome. And the tap and scroll and everything is retained in
Gnome, even after re-login. But the tap is getting disabled the moment
I logout from Gnome. It is neither working in GUI login prompt, nor in
Xfce.

The other more serious setting changes that you have suggested I will
try, but tomorrow, and report you back before I read the document
attentively.


>  "Run alsamixer -c0 in the command line and turn up the controls and
>  check again. 

Dear Sundaram, you are becoming my personal angel. If you like fish, I
can email you some, I am an excellent cook of fish. The audio is
absolutely OK now on both the laptop and the Desktop. Thank you.


>  Only rawhide should be there. You can disable the other repo which
>  appears to have been enabled manually. Rawhide to general repo
>  conversion will happen automatically.
>
>  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading_from_pre-release_to_final
>
>  Verify with yum repolist post-release. 
OK, I am disabling the other repo. Thank you again.


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[Rahul Sundaram]

On 05/08/2009 07:10 PM, das wrote:

>  My Desktop is Xfce by default, and now that you asked it, I logged
> in
>  into Gnome. And the tap and scroll and everything is retained in
>  Gnome, even after re-login. But the tap is getting disabled the moment
>  I logout from Gnome. It is neither working in GUI login prompt, nor in
>  Xfce.
>  
>  The other more serious setting changes that you have suggested I will
>  try, but tomorrow, and report you back before I read the document
>  attentively. 
I talked to the Fedora Xfce maintainer and he claims that is the the
command line method or editing the fdi file as outlined in the FAQ would
work. gnome-mouse-properties only works for GNOME (ie) the gnome-session
is managing it.

>  Dear Sundaram, you are becoming my personal angel. If you like fish,
> I
>  can email you some, I am an excellent cook of fish. The audio is
>  absolutely OK now on both the laptop and the Desktop. Thank you. 
I have been called many things before but that is a new one. Thanks but
I don't eat fish. If instead, you can file a bug report as indicated in
the FAQ, that would be useful.

Rahul

[das]

I am pasting here my changed 10-synaptics.fdi that I have put in the
suggested place:
<<

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="ISO-8859-1"?>

<!-- DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE IN PLACE.
     This file will be overwritten with the next update. If you need to add
     custom options, copy the file into /etc/hal/fdi/policy/ first.

     See https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Input_device_configuration -->

<deviceinfo version="0.2">
  <device>
    <match key="info.capabilities" contains="input.touchpad">
        <!-- To add custom options for the touchpad, modify the examples below
             to suit your needs. The available options are listed in the
             "synaptics" man page. After modifyfing this file, you must
             restart HAL. Check the output of lshal whether your modifications
             have been merged successfully.

             Note: Options must always be type "string".
             The following examples enable left, right, middle clicks on
             single, double, triple finger tapping, respectively.

             <merge key="input.x11_options.TapButton1"
type="string">1</merge>
             <merge key="input.x11_options.TapButton2"
type="string">3</merge>
             <merge key="input.x11_options.TapButton3"
type="string">2</merge>
        -->
	<merge key="input.x11_driver"
type="string">synaptics</merge>
	<merge key="input.x11_options.TapButton1"
type="string">1</merge>
	<merge key="input.x11_options.TapButton2"
type="string">3</merge>
	<merge key="input.x11_options.VertEdgeScroll"
type="boolean">1</merge>
	<merge key="input.x11_options.HorizEdgeScroll"
type="boolean">1</merge>
    </match>
  </device>
</deviceinfo>

> > 
After I put that changed file in /etc/hal/fdi/policy, I ran 'lshal'
that gave a lot of output, which was beyond my computer comprehension.
I was not sure how to restart hal and so as root I typed 'hald' and
pressed enter. The command prompt returned. But, because I was not
sure, I did reboot the system. I am giving you the results:

1. On the login prompt (the GUI one, initdefault is 5) tap is not
working. The click button below the touchpad is working.

2. In Xfce too tap is not working.

3. I opened a terminal and ran 'gnome-mouse-properties'. This has now
become a routine for me. The settings are all proper in it, I just
tapped on the icon of the bulb and it worked. Yes, the moment I run
this command, the command for gnome->mouse->properties, the tap starts
working.

4. Now tap and scroll (H&V) are working. They will till re-login or reboot.

Do you think this is worth a bug-report? I can do it if you don't
think it is too trivial. In fact, I will copy and paste this mail
there.
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[Rahul Sundaram]

On 05/09/2009 09:16 AM, das wrote:

>  Do you think this is worth a bug-report? I can do it if you
> don't
>  think it is too trivial. In fact, I will copy and paste this mail
>  there. 
Sure. If you have followed the steps outlined in the FAQ and unable to
get it to work, file a bug report against Xfce. I can't verify this at
the moment.

Rahul

[das]

Filed a bug report:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499973

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[das]

Can anyone here please check the four lines I added to
10-synaptics.fdi? Two were given in the example that make 1 tap =
click of first switch, 2 taps = click of third switch. The third and
fourth I added from 'man synaptics' to enable vertical edge scrolling
and horizontal scrolling. Maybe the whole thing is not working due to
some silly component mistake.

<<
<merge key="input.x11_driver"
type="string">synaptics</merge>
       <merge key="input.x11_options.TapButton1"
type="string">1</merge>
       <merge key="input.x11_options.TapButton2"
type="string">3</merge>
       <merge key="input.x11_options.VertEdgeScroll"
type="boolean">1</merge>
       <merge key="input.x11_options.HorizEdgeScroll"
type="boolean">1</merge>
> > 
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