January 2007 - infrastructure - Fedora mailing-lists

Re: Yum deltarpm
by Toshio Kuratomi 21 Feb '07

21 Feb '07

On Sat, 2007-01-13 at 19:42 +0200, Ahmed Kamal wrote: > not sure I understand your question, but they way things should go is, > the client downloads the drpm, client side code combines client side > files from older rpm + the drpm into a new rpm. Then that new rpm is > installed. The required bandwidth should drop to 20%, the numbers need > some testing ofcourse, but I can imagine such savings. > SuSE did a lot of work on distributing the files as less than a whole rpm. Their original tool works as you say, with an "rpm patch file" that combines with an rpm on the client's system which is then installed. The newer tool that they were pushing a couple years ago was also able to upgrade files on the filesystem rather than going through the intermediate step of creating an rpm. I consider this method to be less desirable from a security standpoint than the first. -Toshio

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L10N tools: Increase quality of translations
by Dimitris Glezos 09 Feb '07

09 Feb '07

Hi all. Some members from the L10N project have identified some issues that need to be solved to make sure the translations of Fedora are of high quality. Some of them are infrastructure-related and at today's (-admin) meeting it was suggested to transfer the discussion here. I'm sure the folks at Red Hat are doing their best to keep the quality of the translations high. But the truth is that Fedora's image in the context of translations is not good; we do hear that a lot, from current and wanna-be members. We can and should work to improve it. Semi-translated applications are U-G-L-Y and shout "low QA" in our ears. Some possible ideas have been listed on the following page: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N/Tasks Please feel free to chip in and help us out correct whatever doesn't seem reasonable, break tasks into smaller tasks etc. The bigger picture of some of these problems are: * L10N of "local" applications (those listed on [1]) is poor; releases and package updates contain untranslated strings in many languages. This is unacceptable for a fully-localized desktop. * The barrier to contribute to the l10n (be it GUI or Docs) is higher than it should be (compared to other projects). * QA of the translations is difficult with the current tools. Some more concrete ideas to discuss that might concern the InfrProj and the RelEng team are: * Integrate better the handling of translation during a "local" package's lifecycle. Have a flag raised for a package update that introduces new strings so that translators can translate the new strings before the repackaging/updating. Include in the schedule for each release a "string freeze date" and a week later a "translation freeze date" and have all our packages rebuilt after the latter and before the actual release. * Move po files on their own cvsroot on cvs.fedoraproject.org to reduce complexity and maintenance and to increase security (with a new group). * Move the i18n status pages to Fedora servers (Plone/Turbogears?). Include a direct link to the pofiles from there so that new members can have something to work on before getting cvs access. * In the future, use Plone to automate the QA between team members (ie coordinators can review translations etc). * Start working with the complex and tricky path to upstream translations that no distribution has tackled yet in a successful way. Bring our translators closer to the upstream projects. Hope some of the above make sense. :) -d [1]: http://i18n.redhat.com/cgi-bin/i18n-status -- Dimitris Glezos Jabber ID: glezos(a)jabber.org, GPG: 0xA5A04C3B http://dimitris.glezos.com/ "He who gives up functionality for ease of use loses both and deserves neither." (Anonymous) --

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Mirror manager and Xen
by Mike McGrath 31 Jan '07

31 Jan '07

Matt has requested a public xen guest for Mirror Management. Anyone have issues with this? http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/RFR/wiki/Infrastructure/RFR/Mi… -Mike

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rawhide rebuilds on ppc?
by Matt Domsch 31 Jan '07

31 Jan '07

dwmw2 asked me if I could do my full rawhide rebuilds on PPC as well as x86_64 and i386. I don't have ppc hardware, and he doesn't have ppc hardware with enough disk space or a local rawhide mirror. :-) As it's just some scripts that call mock, could I run those on the ppc Extras builders in PHX? They use --uniqueext so they can't conflict with a normal Plague build job. Would need some disk space for the results directory (~20GB), and be able to export the results via a web server. I'd still do the i386 and x86_64 builds in my lab here as I have been. Thoughts? Thanks, Matt -- Matt Domsch Software Architect Dell Linux Solutions linux.dell.com & www.dell.com/linux Linux on Dell mailing lists @ http://lists.us.dell.com

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Hackfest schedule
by Mike McGrath 29 Jan '07

29 Jan '07

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/HackFest2007 Here's the schedule, please add anything you'd like to work on if you're going to be there. Those that know what time they'd like to work on their specific projects should include it on this page so others know when to show up if they want to help. Does anyone know the status of Brew? I seem to remember someone mentioning that the scheme would be availble already. -Mike

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Open archives?
by Rahul Sundaram 27 Jan '07

27 Jan '07

Hi Why is the archives of this list not public? If sensitive details are being discussed in this list, the list membership itself should be moderated which is not the case at present. If anyone can join the list, I dont see any harm in letting search engines and other services index the content. Rahul

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Fedora Core 6 + Updates + Extras Respin size = 6Gb
by Jeroen Janssen 25 Jan '07

25 Jan '07

Hi, Just FYI, I build a Fedora Core 6 + Updates + Extras "respin" and the total DVD iso is currently 6Gb (I used pungi to build it, but I haven't used the resulting DVD for installation yet). I think with the impending merging of core & extras in F7, this means people either have to use dual-layer DVDs or there need to be two DVDs for installation purposes. (or someone needs to 'cut-down' the number of packages in F7 to get in to fit on 1 DVD). I also ended with about 10 CD isos, but I'm not going to use them. Best regards, Jeroen Janssen

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F7 & Infrastructure plan?
by Jeroen Janssen 24 Jan '07

24 Jan '07

Hi, I was wondering with the upcoming F7 Test1 Release on 30 January 2007 are there any things for the infrastructure that need to be done yet? On a side node is there a clear overview of the infrastructure deliverables in relation with the major milestones of F7 (on http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/7 )? Best regards, Jeroen Janssen

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uid/gid in Accounts2 Schema
by Toshio Kuratomi 24 Jan '07

24 Jan '07

I just looked at the LDAP schema and noticed that there's no numeric userid/groupid field. We're going to need to carry over the userid and groupid from the database as those numerics are used in other databases that refer to records in the account system and on our servers as Unix uids. -Toshio

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QA project and a Xen Host
by Mike McGrath 24 Jan '07

24 Jan '07

We've only partially discussed this. wwoods has requested a Fedora QA project. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/RFR/QA He's going to fill out some more detailed goals and description but I wanted to hear if there are any objections to this. I'm strongly in favor of setting it up and letting them go at it. -Mike

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LHCP vs Smolt
by Rahul Sundaram 23 Jan '07

23 Jan '07

Hi Looks like we are duplicating efforts here. https://hosted.fedoraproject.org/projects/LHCP https://hosted.fedoraproject.org/projects/smolt Rahul

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Official mirror requirements
by Rahul Sundaram 23 Jan '07

23 Jan '07

Hi What are the requirements other than bandwidth for the official mirrors listed at http://fedora.redhat.com/Download/mirrors.html. In particular do we require them to carry the complete copy including source images and packages? If not we should probably enforce that or list the mirrors which only have binary packages as partial mirrors. We can run some routine checks in a period basis automatically to cross verify this. Rahul

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Wiki Upgrade
by Mike McGrath 23 Jan '07

23 Jan '07

We have a proof of concept up and running for the wiki upgrade at: http://webtest.fedora.redhat.com/wiki We've got a little bit of work to do in testing, the two sites do look different. We need the web guys (and maybe the doc guys?) to look at the website and see what needs to be done and report whats broken. This is something we'd like to get out by the end of February so it will be ready for the Fedora 7 release. Patrick: Who from the website team would be a good point person to coordinate the upgrade with? -Mike

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Email addresses
by Mike McGrath 22 Jan '07

22 Jan '07

At present we provide two @fedoraproject.org addresses to everyone who has a fedoraproject account. account(a)fp.o and first.last(a)fp.o Notting pointed out that its only a matter of time before we have a collision in first.last. Should we just get rid of it? I don't know of anyone using it. -Mike

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[config management] kind of survey
by Rachid Zarouali 18 Jan '07

18 Jan '07

Hy all, i have recently join the fedora infrastructure list, so maybe this survey would appear to you a bit odd. i have taken a deeper look at what have been discussed regarding the config management task, many of you have strong experience in different kind of tools like glump, puppet, cfengine ... but i haven't seen any checkup list on : - what's the aim of a new config management system. - how far we want this tool to manage servers config (system,services, both of them, anything else maybe ....). - system limitations (for example : no ruby tools because it has been sealed that ruby should be installed on servers ). i've seen jeff ollie has made a little wiki page listing all config management tools suggested, with pros and cons, here's my little suggestion: first : we should list : - what the new config tool should do for us - perhaps how we want this tool to work, (agent/server or something else) - system things for example : no ruby, if there an agent so it should communicate securely with his server ..... second : looking at jeff wiki's page and other solutions discussed on the list, and see if there is any tool listed there which answer all our requirements, if not then 2 choice : - take a look around and find the "right" tool - lower a little bit our requirements, so one of the tools listed would answer them (definitely the worst solution ). third: -build a test environment with the chosen tool, so everyone can play with it (the more people become familiar with it, the best it would be ;) ) fourth: - make a deployment schedule. fifth: - deploy and enjoy the work done by all people involved in ;=) here my personal view: 1) what the new config tool should do for us: this tool should help us managing system and services configurations of all fp.o servers. by managing, i mean : - building new config to deploy. - easily and smoothly updating several config - versioning all config created and/or updated how we want this tool to work: - all tasks should be done securely, agent/server tool or not. - the tool should give us some report on how tasks goes. system things: well as I'm not used on how servers are deployed , i can't really answer this point but, IMHO, whatever tool is chosen, it should not require something that may change how our systems works, this tool should be nearly invisible system view. 2) about the right tool, after looking at threads in the list archive and looking at jeff page, glump seems to be a good start 3) and 4) would come along the way after all question for 1) and 2) are settled. who's next to answer this little survey ? :) hoping this would help Rachid

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Request For Resources
by Mike McGrath 18 Jan '07

18 Jan '07

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/RFR Lets hammer on this asap if we could, I'd like to have Will and company fill one of these out for their Xen instance soon. (gotta start somewhere) -Mike

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Wiki Upgrade
by Mike McGrath 18 Jan '07

18 Jan '07

Even though we won't get much use regarding caching, do you guys think it will be worth it to upgrade to current stable release of Moin Moin. There's bound to be many features that we can use and it'd be good to freshen up the wiki before the next release. (hopefully a good month before the next release so we can workout any bugs) Ahmed and Paulo, How much work would it take given your tests? -Mike

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[Fwd: [Fwd: About Fedora Directory Server Project (directory)]]
by Rahul Sundaram 17 Jan '07

17 Jan '07

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XEN box
by Mike McGrath 16 Jan '07

16 Jan '07

Anyone know of any of these guests that we can get rid of? db2 18 512 1 -b---- 17750.7 doc-library 55 256 1 -b---- 1279.8 fdstest 23 512 1 -b---- 12236.5 metrics 56 256 1 -b---- 1983.3 plonetest 34 512 1 -b---- 16944.8 test6 47 512 1 -b---- 1330.0 bzrtest 40 512 1 -b---- 9511.6 fedhosting 47 512 1 -b---- 17422.0 mail 50 512 1 -b---- 2347.8 mercurial 45 512 1 -b---- 69931.4 pkgdbtest 51 512 1 -b---- 3150.4 I need to make some room for will :-D Also, Most of these boxes could easily run test with 256 or 128 M of ram. If you get a moment log in and lower yours or send me a request so I can do it. I'll have a request form done soon so in the future expiration dates and official contacts are defined. -Mike

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Quick introduction, infrastructure stuff for qa
by Will Woods 16 Jan '07

16 Jan '07

Hi there! I'm Will Woods, and I'm the lead tester / head of QA for Fedora. We're hard at work on bunches of tools and ideas to help test Fedora and make things better.. faster.. stronger. Right now, we've got a couple of repositories of packages for testing that live in David Malcolm's people page: http://people.redhat.com/dmalcolm/tablecloth/ We're also going to be writing some web apps that will need somewhere to live - something to keep track of testing progress / results, some bugzilla-related stuff, a frontend for an automated test lab, and so on. We don't have any hosting for any of it right now, but I'd like this stuff to live somewhere like http://qa.fedoraproject.org/. I'd like to have an official QA repo for our test tools and test packages, hosted at something like http://qa.fedoraproject.org/repo/. Most importantly, we need some help very soon. We currently have a problem - dmalcolm is out of disk quota, so he can't push bugfixed versions of the test tools out until we get a new host for the repos. This is bad! The amount of disk space we'll need is quite small - I think the packages currently take up something like 3MB. We'll be collecting test data and results and accumulating tests, but I don't anticipate this being a significant amount of data (say >10GB) for months, maybe years. Can we make this stuff happen? How do we get started? Thanks in advance for the help, guys. -w

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Outage tonight
by Stacy J. Brandenburg 16 Jan '07

16 Jan '07

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Future plans of the hosting project
by Jesse Keating 15 Jan '07

15 Jan '07

As per the meeting, these are the things I think we need to do to further the Fedora Hosted Project. 1) Move the hosted git/hg/svn off to another system. Ideally we'd have a dedicated system (perhaps in another colo) that is beefy enough to run a few xen guests. One for each SCM (so that sane configs can be done for web and such), one for Trac itself, one for users to log in and fiddle with raw webspace, and finally one to run apache and serve up the raw webspace. The same storage space could be used for all of these things, so that we don't have to guess at disk size, just make directories and NFS mount them at appropriate places in the guests. 2) Get raw webspace working. Ideally there would be a guest that users log into and be able to fiddle with content in a subdir of their homedir or something. Someway to keep folks locked out of eachother's webspaces and the rest of the system would be good, maybe we have to limit ssh to just sftp and scp and ssh rsync to begin with, dunno. Another guest would actually serve up the content so that no user could log into that box. Some quotas would be in effect to keep a luser from DoSing the box by running it out of space. Raw webspace could be in the flavor of "projectname.hosted.fedoraproject.org" for ease of name based virtual hosting. Sourceforge does this too, sf.net/projects/<projectname> for the sf interface, <projectname>.sf.net for the webspace. Seems to work fairly well. 3) A web tool for admins to create a new project space. Would involve A) creating trac space and setting appropriate admin B) creating fedora account group for SCM repo C) creating SCM repo, setting permissions D) creating raw webspace and DNS hostname And finally 4) some art love to create a nice template for Trac to use other than the default Trac. Something with Fedora branding and nice looking icons/colors and all that fun stuff. There could be room here for "powered by" type images if some company steps up to donate the system/storage for this, as well as a University logo should we get hosting from a Uni. Wild ass guessing, I'd think that 1TB of storage would be more than plenty to last us a while, for all of hosted SCM and webspace, and Trac data. Eventually we could split things out like the raw webspace or SCMs or whatever if something starts to eat more space. As for a single box to run a bunch of guests, I don't know how well this scales, would be worth testing I guess. -- Jesse Keating Release Engineer: Fedora

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Yum deltarpm
by Ahmed Kamal 13 Jan '07

13 Jan '07

Hi, I'm interested in adding deltarpm support to yum in the fedora updates infrastructure. There's already a yum plugin written by a redhat developer, so we have something to start from. I have contacted the developer, and he has no problem helping us move along. Benefits: ======= 1- Clients download faster updates. The README says drpm based update infrastructure can reduce required bandwidth to about 20% on the average 2- Also, from the server side, this should decrease our bandwidth requirements, and free the servers quickly to handle other users Notes ===== 1- The code currently expects redhat satellite server file system hierarchy, so it will need some cleaning/polishing 2- Currently, the server side stores *all* updates issued, when a client requests updating, the server generates an *appropriate* drpm, which the client can download. This has the disadvantages of storing all updates ever released on the server, and also, running active code on the server might not be welcome by mirrors I imagine. This is a current problem! 3- As a solution to that problem, I am proposing we statically (cron-job) generate drpms only for the newest updates. That way we will be serving the majority of users drpms. We will also get rid of having to generate drpms on the fly. The only thing we loose, is if someone is slow to update his system, he won't be benefiting much from the system. Practically, I think the benefits outweigh the cons. What do you think?

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updates tool
by John Poelstra 12 Jan '07

12 Jan '07

Hi, I'm trying to get up to speed with how the updates tool works and what it does. I followed the instructions on this page http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UpdatesSystem and downloaded the source from CVS. After that I followed the instructions in the README to configure and install. The README was very detailed and helpful! Is there more documentation on how to use the tool now that I have it installed and greater context on how it all goes together? The last part of the README says: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Running the updates system test suite ===================================== All tests are stored in the 'tests' module in this project, and can be run by executing the command `nosetests` in top level of the project. For more information on Nose unit tests, please see: http://somethingaboutorange.com/mrl/projects/nose/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 0) I confess I have limited knowledge of python and have never used 'nose.' 1) What is meant by a "project" when it says to execute the `nosetests` command in the top level of "the project?" 2) Is there a UI and if so how do I navigate to it? Thanks, John

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Missing part of meeting
by Toshio Kuratomi 11 Jan '07

11 Jan '07

Hey guys, I'll be missing at least the first part of the meeting this week and next. I'll catch up in the logs. I'm working on connecting from the packagedb to the account system right now. I'll send more details when I have something that works as I'm sure lmacken will want some of it for the update system :-) -Toshio

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Voting APP
by Mike McGrath 10 Jan '07

10 Jan '07

Hey Toshio, how hard would it be to turn your voting app into a survey app? -Mike

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FI Future
by Mike McGrath 09 Jan '07

09 Jan '07

As many of you know I have been hired on to work on Fedora Infrastructure full time. This will be a great thing for our group. Initially I'll be spending a lot of time getting our house in order and fixing a lot of those little things that we keep putting off. Many of the mid term goals we've already talked about and are on the Schedule page. I'd like to hear the communities ideas now that we have a dedicated resource (me). I'm especially interested in things that will help other teams do what they need to do. Like how to not screw the doc's guys during the next release or better empowering sponsors. Encouraging new volunteers to come and volunteer management / coordination is also something we need to address soon, we're growing quite quickly. With these things in mind try not to think specifically about our infrastructure team but about the project as a whole and how we can aid the community to thrive. I'll officially be starting the first week in Feburary and will be looking for ways to expand our infrastructure both in Red Hat and outside of Red Hat, perhaps by finding partnership in an additional University. As long as we're smart about what we commit to, I have no doubt that we'll be able to provide the community with everything they need. -Mike

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Mirrormanager thoughts
by Matt Domsch 09 Jan '07

09 Jan '07

Just a quick status on where we're at with the mirror manager system. Farshad, Mike, Luke, and I have all spent some time thinking about this. Luke started, and I've added to, a page of what we'd like to see in a mirror management system. See http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/MirrorManagement. Please review this and update/change as you like. Farshad has made a good start implementing parts of this in TurboGears. I've asked for a Trac project into which his source code can be put so we can collaborate on it. I want to make sure we get the schema right for what we need to accomplish before we spend too much time coding. Before we unleash it to we'll need to tie this into the Fedora Account System for user authentication, but that can be tackled in parallel to the rest of the system development. Thanks, Matt -- Matt Domsch Software Architect Dell Linux Solutions linux.dell.com & www.dell.com/linux Linux on Dell mailing lists @ http://lists.us.dell.com

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New accounts LDAP server running
by TomLy 08 Jan '07

08 Jan '07

test5.fedora.phx.redhat.com has an instance of FDS running on it with the current schemas and sample data that I've been working with. For a primer on the schema, please see http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/AccountSystem2/Schema .Pretty screenshot attached. I need to figure out the group situation still and hope to solidify the schema so that development against it may commence. I have already tested and verified apache authentication against it using mod_authnz_ldap. As always, if there's anything I can improve, let me know. ~lyz

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Config stuff and glump (as my introduction)
by Konstantin Ryabitsev 07 Jan '07

07 Jan '07

Hello, all: I've been recently invited to join this list, seeing as I'm the original author of Glump (currently maintained by Seth), and also because I'm currently in a similar situation trying to figure out what to use for system config management here at McGill (I was recently made sysadmin again after being a PHP monkey for over a year). Now, I've not touched glump since mid-2005, and it's changed a bit since then. I do hate cfengine (probably party due to the way it's set up here), and I do not consider puppet to be a good alternative, mostly because it's "yet another config language" and because it's written in ruby. To use puppet, I'd have to learn "yet another config language" and ruby, which is prohibitively time-consuming. I've not yet had time to investigate bcfg2, but I will in the near future. However, I'm wondering if I could use and extend glump to do all I need -- will probably be the simplest. :) I'm currently wondering how much pain it would be to write a trac plugin that would do the same thing glump currently does. That should give me an infrastructure with an extensive access to SVN and db for versioning purposes, and built-in documentation/ticketing system. Since trac provides POST-handing, I could also do stuff like edit config files on the system to the point where they are working, and then "bless" them to be uploaded, committed to svn, and be immediately available to all members of that system group (unless that file is managed by a glump-like system). Now, this is pure vapourware. :) The only reason I'm interested in implementing this is because we already use trac extensively, and because writing plugins for it is pretty simple. I will probably start out with just writing a glump plugin that will use the svn repository to hold glump configs and sources, and then go on from there. If you guys are interested in glump, would you also be interested in a "trac-ified" glump? I plan to start working on this as soon as next week. Cheers and happy new year, -- Konstantin Ryabitsev Montréal, Québec

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Fudcon - Items for discussion
by Mike McGrath 06 Jan '07

06 Jan '07

What should be added or removed? Remember this is going to be a time for us to actually sit in a room and get stuff done. High level goals (Infrastructure Specific): 1) Basic auth/group API for the old Accounting system and the new one in Python. 2) Update System hacking (lmacken lead) 3) Finalize the new postfix server 4) Discuss the "Fedora Noc" + initial coding / Design 5) Volunteer sponsorship 6) Future of the wiki (Moin) 7) Design and coding of new account system (Try to find something that is already out there) 8) Hosting (Jkeating lead) 9) Package Database 10) Backup Server (Finalize) High level goals (general non-infrastructure specific) 1) Lowering the barrier to entry without sacrificing infrastructure / security 2) Volunteer management (coordination might be a better word) 3) VCS / SCM future (Lead by those in the sig) I'd also like to get with some of the other dev's to get an idea of whats important for them to have going forward and whats needed for this release. -Mike

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IRC Meeting Logs Posted
by Jeffrey Tadlock 05 Jan '07

05 Jan '07

The past three infrastructure IRC meeting logs have been posted to the wiki: January 4, 2007: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Meetings/2007-01-04 December 28, 2006: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Meetings/2006-12-28 December 21, 2006: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Meetings/2006-12-21 --Jeffrey

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Another Self-Introduction: Tim Powers
by Tim Powers 05 Jan '07

05 Jan '07

I'm one of the other resident old-farts at Red Hat. I'm currently the architect for Red Hat's Release Configuration Management team (aka release engineering). My main focus is on the infrastructure within Red Hat and RHEL. I am willing to contribute ideas etc. without being the one to implement them (again, like Bill). -- Tim Powers Architect, Release Configuration Management Red Hat, Inc.

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Self-Introduction: Bill Nottingham
by Bill Nottingham 04 Jan '07

04 Jan '07

I'm a resident old fart here at Red Hat, and somewhat of a Fedora jack-of-all-trades, doing development and helping with testing, releasing, signing, planning, etc. I've been heavily involved in the planning of the Great Merger, and the plans for Fedora 7. I'm also a member of the Fedora Project Board. Fedora infrastructure plans: I am probably going to be one of those annoying people coming up with lots of plans along the lines of "we should do X, Y, and Z, and here are plans for them" without actually doing the implementation. Whether that makes me useful or useless remains to be seen. Bill

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PackageDB Progress
by Toshio Kuratomi 04 Jan '07

04 Jan '07

For all those who haven't been following along because of the Holidays, we have data in the database! For all those who have been following along, there's a TurboGears deployment needing some serious UI love! I've coded a read-only view of the Fedora 1-devel Collections with lists of packages in each. Making a similar interface for the Packages should be out later this week. If you want to stare at the horror that is a project in the middle of birth have a gander here: http://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb There's a lot left to do and I'm anxious to start recruiting others to work on various aspects of this. I'll post a more formal list of sub-tasks for this project after the meeting tomorrow but for now, if anyone wants to give feedback on the database schema, it's still got the ugly hacks that I'd love someone to point out a more elegant solution for (schema attached). And anyone that thinks they'd like to take a stab at using TurboGears and SQLAlchemy, prepare to be recruited! -Toshio

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Introduction: Matt Domsch
by Matt Domsch 03 Jan '07

03 Jan '07

So, I never got around to sending one of these. Here goes. I'm a Linux software architect for Dell. I've been administering Linux systems since 1994 and have been Dell's lead engineer for Linux products since 1999. My team develops and tests Red Hat Enterprise Linux and Novell/SuSE Linux Enterprise Server products on Dell PowerEdge servers and Precision workstations. We use Fedora on our laptops and desktops, fix bugs, and merge those fixes into all of the various streams - upstream and various target distros. I also have the privilage of serving Fedora on the Fedora Project Board. I run the linux-poweredge(a)dell.com public mailing list (subscribe and read archives at http://lists.us.dell.com) among others, which has several thousand Linux sysadmins on it. I'm a master of many languages and cultures. I blend in. You'll never find me. oops, wrong movie... For Fedora Infrastructure, I'm working on the Mirror Management System. I also want to get gitweb working for anonymous r/o checkouts from the new project hosting service. I'm 'mdomsch' on IRC. Thanks, Matt -- Matt Domsch Software Architect Dell Linux Solutions linux.dell.com & www.dell.com/linux Linux on Dell mailing lists @ http://lists.us.dell.com

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