Meeting Log - 2008-07-24
by Ricky Zhou
16:00 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- Who's here?
16:00 * ricky
16:00 < ivazquez> Pong.
16:01 * abadger1999 here
16:01 < fchiulli> * fchiulli lurking about
16:01 < mmcgrath> fchiulli: howdy!
16:01 < mmcgrath> Ok, lets get started. This could be a short meeting.
16:02 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- Tickets
16:02 < mmcgrath> .tiny https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/query?status=new&status=as...
16:02 < zodbot> mmcgrath: http://tinyurl.com/2hyyz6
16:02 < mmcgrath> .ticket 671
16:02 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #671 (in.fedoraproject.org) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/projects/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/671
16:02 < mmcgrath> anyone representing in.fedoraproject.org around?
16:02 -!- kschreyack [n=kschreya(a)mail.wirelesscapital.com] has joined #fedora-meeting
16:02 < ricky> mether: ping
16:03 < alex[slx]> Just going to watch this one (first time).
16:03 * skvidal is here, but late
16:04 < mmcgrath> Ok, moving on
16:04 < mmcgrath> .ticket 395
16:04 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #395 (Audio Streaming of Fedora Board Conference Calls) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/projects/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/395
16:04 < mmcgrath> jcollie: you about?
16:05 < mmcgrath> k, moving on :)
16:06 < mmcgrath> .ticket 446
16:06 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #446 (Possibility to add external links on spins page) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/projects/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/446
16:06 < mmcgrath> dgilmore: you around?
16:06 * mmcgrath suspects OLS
16:06 < mmcgrath> next ticket
16:06 < mmcgrath> .ticket 576
16:06 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #576 (Infrastructure Contact Information) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/projects/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/576
16:06 < mmcgrath> I don't think there is anything new there
16:07 < mmcgrath> ricky: you heard anything?
16:07 * mmcgrath has been using sshfs and encfs pretty successfully.
16:07 < mmcgrath> scripted its pretty easy to setup
16:07 < ricky> G: I know you've been busy this week - any new thoughts?
16:09 < mmcgrath> heh, I suspect he's gone too
16:09 < mmcgrath> so moving on!
16:09 < mmcgrath> see, I told you this would be short :)
16:09 < ricky> Heh, yeah
16:09 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- DB outage
16:09 < mmcgrath> So the db outage was this week.
16:10 < mmcgrath> uber thanks to ricky!
16:10 < mmcgrath> It went pretty well, bit longer then we'd expected because of a bad first dump.
16:10 < mmcgrath> other then that though. All of the database servers have been putting along quite well
16:10 < mmcgrath> thats really all I have on that
16:10 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- network issues
16:11 < mmcgrath> We continue to see network issues between most of our hosts in the main fedora rack in PHX.
16:11 -!- MadBus [n=scott(a)c-68-51-66-81.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has left #Fedora-meeting ["Leaving"]
16:11 < mmcgrath> some changes went in today that seem to have helpped some hosts, but not others.
16:11 < mmcgrath> nothing really new there.
16:11 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- mmcgrath gone
16:11 < mmcgrath> I'll be gone starting tomorrow till Sunday and I'll be camping.
16:11 < mmcgrath> so don't expect for me to be around much
16:11 < ricky> Cool :-)
16:12 < fchiulli> mmcgrath: May the weather gods shine down on you.
16:12 < mmcgrath> :)
16:12 < mmcgrath> paintball.
16:12 * abadger1999 gets the orbital laser primed to make the batman symbol in case of emergencies :-)
16:12 < mmcgrath> rock climbing
16:12 < mmcgrath> and paintball rock climbing.
16:12 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- Open Floor
16:13 < mmcgrath> Who's got stuff to discuss?
16:13 < ricky> Anybody that has stuff on lockbox should start thinking about moving it :-)
16:14 < mmcgrath> ricky: yeah, might want to send an email to the list about that too. I'm pretty sure we're good there though
16:14 < ricky> Once all of the logs are in place, I'll probably talk to spevack and stickster about moving their stats stuff over
16:14 < ricky> Cool
16:14 < mmcgrath> ricky: one thing I'd like to do is look at moving the logging to tcp.
16:14 < mmcgrath> looks like we can setup spooling so that even when log1 goes down, it won't lose logs.
16:14 < mmcgrath> needs a closer look.
16:14 < ricky> Ah, cool
16:14 < mmcgrath> Anyone else have anything to discuss?
16:15 * stickster blinks
16:15 < abadger1999> python-fedora-0.3 has been deployed to fas and app servers.
16:15 < abadger1999> Looks good for deploying to the rest of infrastructure after we have the new fas package
16:15 < abadger1999> (fasClient needed tweaks)
16:15 < ricky> Ah, yes - hopefully, we'll have a FAS update with that soon.
16:16 < mmcgrath> yeah
16:16 < mmcgrath> stickster: do you know when the new privacy policy will be a go?
16:16 < stickster> mmcgrath: I don't -- since spot is at OLS and I'll be in BOS next week, I'd say we can give you an update by then
16:17 < abadger1999> Can we update the fas server before the privacy policy is live or do they have to be concurrent?
16:17 < ricky> abadger1999: At worst, moving over early is making things slightly better
16:17 < ricky> (As in, it's breaking our current policy less now)
16:17 < abadger1999> That was my thought too.
16:17 < stickster> Right, there's no problem with tightening up the actual services early.
16:18 < stickster> As long as when our new policy goes into action, it doesn't conflict with the actual service :-)
16:18 < mmcgrath> <nod>
16:18 < abadger1999> heh. Cool.
16:18 < stickster> But I am certain that you guys have once again outdone yourselves in that regard
16:18 -!- fchiulli_ [i=824c4010(a)gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-35e769ac5445486c] has joined #fedora-meeting
16:18 * stickster washes Infrastructure car a little
16:18 < mmcgrath> what link do we use to refer to the new policy, same link?
16:19 < stickster> *wax on* *wax off*
16:19 < stickster> mmcgrath: Yes, the link won't change.
16:19 -!- fchiulli [i=824c4010(a)gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-7817b8260bce18db] has quit "http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client"
16:19 < stickster> We'll get the content slotted into the right place.
16:20 -!- fchiulli_ is now known as fchiulli
16:21 < mmcgrath> k
16:21 < mmcgrath> so thats that then.
16:21 < mmcgrath> anyone have anything else to discuss?
16:22 < mmcgrath> we'll close in 30
16:22 < mmcgrath> 15
16:22 < mmcgrath> 5
16:22 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- Meeting end!
15 years, 8 months
bash $TMOUT
by Mike McGrath
Sooooo, I'd like to set a $TMOUT for all of our bash sessions. I see a
lot of shells just needlessly open. This is going to piss people off
though, I haven't even done it yet and its pissing me off :)
Are there any very vocal oppositions to this? Any alternatives? I'd like
to at a minimum install it on fedorapeople.
-Mike
15 years, 8 months
Spam headers @fp.o addresses
by Mike McGrath
I've started adding spam headers to all @fp.o emails. Please keep your
eyes and ears out for any strangeness. We'll likely have to further
configure things. I've also been considering changing the standard spam
headers to fedora specific headers so people understand where they are
coming from and can use them, in conjunction with their local spam
scanners.
I'm really not sure what happens to our spam headers if another
spamassassin server scans them, I'd assume ours would just vanish.
-Mike
15 years, 8 months
Database outage puppet updates
by Ricky Zhou
During tonight's outage, I've accumulated a good number of unpushed
commits in my puppet clone, specifically on the db node manifests, the
db service, db backup scripts, and just about all of the noc1 nagios
hosts and hostgroups (and the pgsql service). I plan to push all these
changes in one shot tomorrow if the db migration works out, so I'd
appreciate it if everybody could avoid pushing puppet changes in these
areas until this has happened in order to prevent ugly/complex merges.
Thanks a lot,
Ricky
15 years, 8 months
[Fwd: Cron <root@publictest10> /bin/sleep $(($RANDOM/20)); /usr/bin/fasClient -i]
by Toshio Kuratomi
I've updated fasClient with what we have in fas's git repository on
fas[12], app[123456], publictest10, publictest9, fedorapeople.org,and
releng2. We shouldn't get more DeprecationWarnings from those hosts.
We'll have a new FAS package in the next few days that will incorporate
these changes.
-Toshio
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Cron <root@publictest10> /bin/sleep $(($RANDOM/20));
/usr/bin/fasClient -i
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 06:29:37 -0700
From: root(a)publictest10.fedoraproject.org (Cron Daemon)
To: root(a)publictest10.fedoraproject.org
/usr/bin/fasClient:377: DeprecationWarning: send_request(input) is
deprecated. Use send_request(req_params) instead
request = self.send_request('group/list', auth=True, input=params)
/usr/bin/fasClient:424: DeprecationWarning: send_request(input) is
deprecated. Use send_request(req_params) instead
data = self.send_request('user/list', auth=True, input=params)
15 years, 8 months
doing FAS2 with sqlalchemy-migrate
by Yaakov Nemoy
Hey List,
There are alot of tickets for FAS2 outstanding that require some
changes to the DB. Toshio is working on getting sqlalchemy-migrate
into Fedora now, so I felt it would be fitting to get FAS2 to be an
example of how to do it right. (This means I am probably doing
something wrong.)
http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/fas.git?p=fas.git;a=commitdiff;h=21643256...
This git commit sets up migration for us. The instructions how to use
it are there. In short, the overlying design is to assume the DB has
already been configured and deployed using the old method. This will
manage changes we do on top. This will make it easier for people with
working development trees to simply migrate their dev systems over
without having to start their DB fresh.
Please poke holes in this plan, so we can have something more solid
that can be used as a gold standard for Fedora Infrastructure
development.
-Yaakov
15 years, 8 months
Database Upgrades
by Mike McGrath
So next week will be an interesting week regarding our databases. It just
so happened this way but db1 and db3 will be ready at about the same time.
The new db1 will replace the old db1 exactly. We'd already migrated to it
a couple of weeks ago but had to revert after some memory issues came up.
I believe that has been resolved.
db3 is a little different. db2 will remain as the primary database for
all databases except for koji. Koji will get moved to db3 which will also
have Postgresql 8.3 on it. I'd like to leave db2 at 8.1 for the immediate
future, after we've determined db3 is a success we'll schedule a time to
update db2 to 8.3 as well.
Initial, very basic tests (db import) showed that with koji at least,
postgresql 8.3 was significantly faster. 8.5 hours instead of 14.4 hours
to import the koji database.
-Mike
15 years, 8 months
Outage Notification - 2008-07-22 04:59 UTC (MAJOR)
by Mike McGrath
There will be an outage starting at 2008-07-22 04:59 UTC, which will last
approximately 10 hours.
To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto
or run:
date -d '2008-07-22 04:59 UTC'
Affected Services:
Websites
Buildsystem
Database
Unaffected Services:
CVS / Source Control
DNS
Mail
Torrent
Fedora Hosted
Talk
Ticket Link:
https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/705
Reason for Outage:
Re-migrating db1 to its new hardware (memory issues have hopefully been
resolved). Moving koji database from db2 to a dedicated new server, db3.
The db1 outage will cause the wiki and smolt to be offline for no longer
then an hour.
The koji move will cause the buildsystem (and whatever depends on the
build system) to be down for between 8 and 10 hours. We haven't padded
the outage so if something goes wrong, we'll have to abort and re-schedule
it for another time. Likely the next night so be prepared. Also please
make sure any builds you complete any builds prior to the time of the
outage.
Contact Information:
Please join #fedora-admin in irc.freenode.net or respond to this email to
track the status of this outage.
15 years, 8 months
Meeting Log - 2008-07-17
by Ricky Zhou
16:00 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- Who's Here?
16:00 * ricky
16:00 * ianweller
16:00 * SmootherFrOgZ
16:00 < G> baaa
16:01 * abadger1999
16:01 < mmcgrath> Ok, lets get cracking
16:02 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- Tickets
16:02 < mmcgrath> .tiny https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/query?status=new&status=as...
16:02 < zodbot> mmcgrath: http://tinyurl.com/2hyyz6
16:02 * skvidal is
16:02 * dgilmore
16:02 < mmcgrath> .ticket 395
16:02 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #395 (Audio Streaming of Fedora Board Conference Calls) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/projects/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/395
16:02 < mmcgrath> jcollie: around?
16:03 < mmcgrath> ok, we'll skip that for now
16:03 < mmcgrath> .ticket 446
16:03 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #446 (Possibility to add external links on spins page) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/projects/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/446
16:03 < mmcgrath> dgilmore: ping ^^
16:04 -!- balor [n=balor(a)gimili.plus.com] has joined #fedora-meeting
16:04 < mmcgrath> wow, going to be a short meeting I suspect.
16:04 < ricky> Heh.
16:04 < mmcgrath> .ticket 547
16:04 < SmootherFrOgZ> ^^
16:04 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #547 (Koji DB Server as postgres 8.3) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/projects/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/547
16:04 < mmcgrath> I've been working on testing the imports and things.
16:05 < SmootherFrOgZ> do you want help on this part ?
16:05 < mmcgrath> So far so good. When I first started testing I had a ext3 abort on me but haven't seen that happen since. And have done many more restores with it
16:05 < mmcgrath> SmootherFrOgZ: thanks but I think we're all set. I'm just waiting to hear back from f13 about the exact outage times.
16:05 < mmcgrath> It will take 8-10 hours to import
16:05 < SmootherFrOgZ> k
16:06 < mmcgrath> It took 5 fewer hours to import to 8.3 then to 8.1 of the same hardware configuration.
16:06 < mmcgrath> so we may see significant performance gain with koji.
16:06 < mmcgrath> .ticket 576
16:06 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #576 (Infrastructure Contact Information) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/projects/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/576
16:06 < G> no update here
16:07 < mmcgrath> G: you given any further thought to this? I've been testing some sshfs and encfs combo's with success. its an option worth looking at
16:07 < mmcgrath> <nod>
16:07 < mmcgrath> next ticket
16:07 < G> yeah, it's been playing at the back of my mind :)
16:07 < mmcgrath> .ticket 448
16:07 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #448 (Hosting request for fedora-quotes) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/projects/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/448
16:07 * mmcgrath swore this was all fixed
16:07 < mmcgrath> I'll comment and close it.
16:07 < ricky> Thanks
16:07 * ricky should have done that last week
16:08 < mmcgrath> Ok, thats that.
16:08 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- Torrent1
16:08 < mmcgrath> skvidal: ^^
16:08 < mmcgrath> whats the torrent1 plan? its been up and running for a while.
16:09 < skvidal> it has been
16:09 < skvidal> yay
16:09 < mmcgrath> yeah
16:09 < skvidal> we can give it a shot for alpha
16:09 < skvidal> we'll see how much whatever-the-hell-xen-does
16:09 < skvidal> makes it blow up
16:09 < skvidal> :)
16:09 < mmcgrath> Thats till in a few weeks right?
16:09 < mmcgrath> f13: ping
16:10 < mmcgrath> notting: ping
16:10 < G> yeah, begining of August iirc
16:10 < notting> mmcgrath: yes?
16:10 < mmcgrath> do either of you know how much room is needed for the alpha release?
16:10 < skvidal> mmcgrath: there's 244G free on torrent1
16:10 < skvidal> we should be fine :)
16:10 < notting> if you budget the amount that was needed for f9, you can't go wrong
16:10 -!- sdziallas [n=sebastia(a)p57A2F945.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #fedora-meeting
16:10 * nirik notes that the Xfce spin should be done... but it's not up anywhere yet... I think f13 was going to see about trying to put it on torrent1.
16:10 < dgilmore> notting: +10%
16:10 < mmcgrath> skvidal: there's also about that much on the primary mirror.
16:11 < dgilmore> mmcgrath: can i put sparc there
16:11 < mmcgrath> no sparc for you!
16:11 < skvidal> dgilmore: hush
16:11 < skvidal> mmcgrath: nod
16:11 < mmcgrath> I'll make a ticket and check it out
16:11 < skvidal> mmcgrath: only sad thing
16:11 < skvidal> archive.fp.o has 7.7G free :(
16:11 < dgilmore> ouch
16:11 < skvidal> yah
16:12 < skvidal> not sure what we should do there
16:12 < G> yeah, that came up on nagios when I added it
16:12 < mmcgrath> skvidal: hopefully the HP box will be fixed by then.
16:13 < mmcgrath> I've purchased the warranty, its not gone through yet though.
16:13 < skvidal> nod
16:13 < mmcgrath> it has multiple T of storage available.
16:13 < skvidal> okay
16:13 < skvidal> yay for multiple T
16:13 < mmcgrath> skvidal: any other concerns with torrent1?
16:14 < skvidal> other than the ongoing disaster that is sb1?
16:14 < skvidal> no
16:14 < ricky> *cough*better than sb3*cough*
16:14 < mmcgrath> heh
16:14 < mmcgrath> ok, moving on
16:14 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- Outage next week
16:15 < G> heh
16:15 < dgilmore> mmcgrath: power it all off :)
16:15 < ricky> Innage
16:15 < mmcgrath> I would have liked to do this tonight or tomorrow but I actually won't be around much this weekend so that seemed bad.
16:15 < mmcgrath> heh
16:15 < dgilmore> i assume this is to migrate to db3?
16:15 < mmcgrath> So here's whats going to happen. Hopefully monday night.
16:15 < ricky> And db1 at the same time
16:15 < mmcgrath> dgilmore: yeah, and the db1 migration.
16:15 < G> just as long as the voting app doesn't go down :)
16:15 < dgilmore> mmcgrath: lots of people will be absent next week
16:16 < ricky> It shouldn't
16:16 < dgilmore> fedora has a big presence at OLS
16:16 < G> (esp as we are in the middle of the FESCo elections)
16:16 < mmcgrath> .ticket 705
16:16 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #705 (DB upgrade (db1 db2)) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/projects/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/705
16:16 < mmcgrath> G: it should be ok.
16:16 < mmcgrath> the longest outage will be koji, for around 10 hours.
16:16 < mmcgrath> That doesn't include much buffer for error. If something happens after hour 1, we're calling off the outage and doing it another time.
16:16 < dgilmore> mmcgrath: do we have postgresql-8.3 built?
16:16 < mmcgrath> The shorter outages are in smolt and mediawiki.
16:16 < G> dgilmore: yep
16:17 < mmcgrath> I'm hoping less then an hour. I'll be testing though.
16:17 < mmcgrath> dgilmore: yeah, its already on db3 and I've imported to it twice with success.
16:17 < mmcgrath> Just shy of 9 hours.
16:17 < dgilmore> then you need to analyze it
16:17 < dgilmore> but that can be done under load
16:17 < abadger1999> dgilmore: Yep. I've been tracking the F-9 builds and rebuilding for EL-5.
16:17 < dgilmore> abadger1999: :)
16:17 < mmcgrath> dgilmore: we need to analyze _after_ a fresh import?
16:17 < mmcgrath> do the pgsql admins drink a lot or just hate operations people and... logic?
16:18 < abadger1999> I think so.
16:18 < dgilmore> mmcgrath: its recommended
16:18 < abadger1999> Not a vacuum but analyse yes.
16:18 < ricky> Hehe
16:18 < mmcgrath> what a useless piece of crap.
16:18 < SmootherFrOgZ> haha
16:18 < mmcgrath> seriously, how could someone think thats ok?
16:18 < abadger1999> (analyze runs over your data as it sits on the disks and decides what query plans will be better)
16:18 < dgilmore> supposed to get the planers right
16:18 < mmcgrath> we don't have to deal with any of that bs in mysql, and never have.
16:18 < dgilmore> indeed
16:19 < mmcgrath> anyway, ok. I'll be analyzing the tables as well.
16:19 * mmcgrath needs to not think about that right now as it just makes him angry at the world.
16:19 < mmcgrath> skvidal: did you just take sb1 down?
16:19 < skvidal> no
16:19 < mmcgrath> .ping serverbeach1.fedoraproject.org
16:19 < zodbot> pong
16:19 < skvidal> but I've noticed it has issues everytime we talk about it
16:19 < mmcgrath> hrm
16:19 < abadger1999> It's shy.
16:19 < G> VPN most likely
16:19 < mmcgrath> yeah, that pong is a lie. I can't get to it
16:20 < skvidal> G: not from where I am
16:20 < skvidal> the pong is a lie
16:20 < mmcgrath> zodbot's pinging system is pretty weak.
16:20 < G> .ping
16:20 < zodbot> pong
16:20 < skvidal> hahah
16:20 < ricky> Blech.
16:20 < ricky> .ping aw243hy2a3i420r
16:20 < zodbot> pong
16:20 < mmcgrath> oh, its that kind of ping :)
16:20 < mmcgrath> heheheh
16:20 < dgilmore> .slap serverbeach1.fedoraproject.org
16:20 < mmcgrath> .list
16:20 < zodbot> mmcgrath: Admin, Channel, ChannelLogger, ChannelStats, Config, Fedora, Internet, Koji, Later, Misc, Owner, Plugin, RSS, Seen, ShrinkUrl, String, Time, URL, Unix, UrbanDict, User, and Web
16:20 < mmcgrath> .list Internet
16:20 < zodbot> mmcgrath: dns, hexip, and whois
16:20 < ricky> .list Web
16:20 < zodbot> ricky: doctype, fetch, headers, netcraft, size, title, urlquote, and urlunquote
16:20 < ianweller> .help pi9nt
16:20 < zodbot> ianweller: Error: There is no command "pi9nt".
16:20 < ianweller> .help ping
16:20 < zodbot> ianweller: (ping takes no arguments) -- Checks to see if the bot is alive.
16:20 < mmcgrath> .list misc
16:20 < zodbot> mmcgrath: apropos, help, last, list, more, ping, source, tell, and version
16:20 < skvidal> so
16:20 < skvidal> sb1 is down
16:20 < ianweller> hahahahhahhahhhaahahaha
16:20 < ricky> .misc ping
16:20 < zodbot> pong
16:20 < mmcgrath> ahwell.
16:20 < ianweller> we've been trusting on that forever?!
16:20 < G> oh SPAM!
16:20 < skvidal> .spam
16:21 < ricky> Woooohoo, "Rapid" Reboot time!
16:21 < mmcgrath> Ok, so thats really all I have right now so I'll open the floor.
16:21 < skvidal> ricky: "rapid" is right
16:21 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- Open Floor
16:21 < mmcgrath> who has things they'd like to discuss?
16:21 * skvidal suggests we poke sb1 in the eye
16:21 * ianweller suggests the spleen
16:21 < mmcgrath> skvidal: how is that possible? How did sb1 _just_ go down as we were talking about it?
16:21 < mmcgrath> did anyone even ssh to it or anything?
16:21 < skvidal> yep
16:21 * ricky couldn't get it
16:21 < skvidal> I ssh'd in and run 'df -h'
16:21 < ricky> **in
16:21 < mmcgrath> skvidal: and that killed it?
16:21 < skvidal> and then I logged out
16:21 < G> heh
16:21 < skvidal> apparently it did
16:21 < ianweller> skvidal: well don't do that then. ;)
16:22 < mmcgrath> thats amazing
16:22 < skvidal> yah
16:22 < skvidal> so
16:22 * dgilmore notes he will be more distracted than usual for the next 3 weeks
16:22 < ricky> :-)
16:22 < G> I've got nothing in particular, the proxy4->proxy1 rename went well
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16:22 < skvidal> do we have any hosts with enough ram and enough disk to take a torrent1 image?
16:22 < mmcgrath> G: yes it did, thank you for that.
16:22 * ricky will probably start obsessing over sb3 again.. soonish
16:22 < skvidal> ricky: are you scheduling the sb1 reboot now or should I?
16:22 < G> ummm lets see what else
16:22 < mmcgrath> skvidal: let me think about that.
16:23 < skvidal> mmcgrath: oh and they need to be not behind a firewall
16:23 < poelcat> is there an RFE ticket about email diff notifications from the wiki?
16:23 < ricky> skvidal: Sure, I'll get it
16:23 < mmcgrath> thats the real trick.
16:23 * poelcat couldn't find one
16:23 < skvidal> mmcgrath: option2 is what I suggested before
16:23 < mmcgrath> poelcat: I've not seen one.
16:23 < mmcgrath> skvidal: give option 2 a try.
16:23 * poelcat will create one
16:23 < skvidal> mmcgrath: we nuke sb1 from orbit and reinstall the fucker as SOLELY torrent
16:23 < skvidal> mmcgrath: okay, I'll see if I can do it tomorrow.
16:23 < G> poelcat: I'm sure I saw one
16:23 < mmcgrath> ianweller: do you know?
16:23 < skvidal> ricky: please do hit the reboot
16:24 < G> poelcat: the other things to note:
16:24 < ianweller> mmcgrath: no i do not know
16:24 < ricky> (Reboot initiated)
16:24 < poelcat> the more and more page watches I add the more painful clicking on the URL is getting :)
16:24 < ricky> skvidal: Ooh, let me know what luck you have with bare metal kickstarting
16:24 < ricky> (I've not had any luck with sb3 :-()
16:24 < poelcat> particuarly with all the feature page changes
16:24 < ianweller> G: weren't you looking into that?
16:24 < G> 1. Mediawiki only sends 1 notification per page per gap/whatever - i.e. you have to actually goto the page or view the diff to start getting new notifications
16:25 < skvidal> ricky: I shall, we did them before they can't be _that_ hard ;)
16:25 * dgilmore notes mediawiki sucks
16:25 < G> 2. As a result, the link to the diff is a dynamic one that'll always be from notifiededit-1 to current
16:25 < dgilmore> its only saving grace is a database backend
16:26 < poelcat> dgilmore: i was going to recommend moin, but they don't have a db ;-)
16:26 * nirik is happy with the rss feed of changes.
16:26 < G> poelcat: thats definately not how to get on my side :)
16:26 < ricky> skvidal: All I know is that the SOP (and a few other tries) didn't work - feel free to give it a kick or two :-)
16:27 < G> poelcat: so the problem is, Mediawiki's notification system is already fundamentally flawed in 1.11 :)
16:28 < mmcgrath> G: poelcat: mind taking that to the ticket? We can probably close the meeting quicker :)
16:28 < poelcat> mmcgrath: you got it
16:28 < mmcgrath> sweet
16:28 < ricky> I really wonder what they were thinking when they decided to put a link to the diff in the email
16:28 < mmcgrath> Ok, anyone have anything else they'd like to discuss? If not we can close the meeting in 30
16:28 < G> ricky: it saves on spam
16:29 < mmcgrath> 20
16:29 < ricky> Actually, I wonder how crazy wikipedia editors keep track of stuff like they do
16:29 < mmcgrath> 10
16:29 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- Meeting End
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[Fwd: Re: Announcing the Fedora EDU Spin Preview]
by Paul W. Frields
Anyone have insight into this?
Paul
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> Subject: Re: Announcing the Fedora EDU Spin Preview
> Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 01:16:35 +0200
>
> Luke Macken wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 11:49:44AM -0400, Christopher Aillon wrote:
> >> Also, you need to get approval from the Spin SIG and Board before you
> >> can call it a spin.
> >>
> >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Spins/SpinSubmissionProcess
> >
> > Sadly, this is more of a roadblock than a process at the moment, seeing
> > as how it has been blocking on the creation of a fedora-spins mailing
> > list for the past 3 months. Does someone with postfix/mailman knowledge
> > want to help get this ball rolling ?
> >
>
> I don't know what the problem is exactly... We have multiple mailing
> lists running in all kinds of locations... @redhat.com,
> @fedorahosted.org and @lists.fedoraproject.org... Not sure what's
> holding us back.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Jeroen van Meeuwen
> -kanarip
>
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