puppet/modules/scripts/files/maps/maps.sh was not updated to f11. Is
it still being used?
I have attached a proposed patch to cover those changes. Please let me
know if I can commit them.
Stephen J Smoogen.
Ah, but a man's reach should exceed his grasp. Or what's a heaven for?
-- Robert Browning
I think that we should change somethings in fedora that would make it
Things that whenever a new person starts fedora for the first time would
For example whenever i start fedora for the first time i change the behavior
of the folders and make them open in browser
can we make that default? Because i think most people do that.
Tareq Al Jurf
Riyadh, Saudi Arabia
20:02 < mmcgrath> #startmeeting Infrastructure
20:02 < zodbot> Meeting started Thu Nov 12 20:02:30 2009 UTC. The chair is mmcgrath. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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20:02 -!- zodbot changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: (Meeting topic: Infrastructure)
20:03 < skvidal> grumbel
20:03 -!- herlo [n=clints@fedora/herlo] has joined #fedora-meeting
20:03 < dgilmore> ::sigh::
20:03 < mmcgrath> who's here?
20:03 * ricky
20:03 * a-k is
20:03 < mdomsch> here briefly
20:04 < mdomsch> customer presentation in ~10m to leave for
20:04 * nirik is around in the back
20:04 * Oxf13
20:04 < mmcgrath> Ok, so lets get started.
20:05 < mmcgrath> So, we've got a release next week!
20:06 < mmcgrath> 3 cheers!
20:06 < mmcgrath> So, lets go over the tickets to make sure we're in good shape.
20:06 < mmcgrath> ricky: you around by chance?
20:06 < skvidal> he said he was
20:06 < ricky> mmcgrath: Yup
20:06 < mmcgrath> ricky: so lets do this one first
20:06 < mmcgrath> .ticket 1788
20:06 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #1788 (Websites) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1788
20:07 < mmcgrath> What exactly is going to happen come tuesday?
20:07 < ricky> There will be a DNS switch for spins.fp.o to point to the proxies in advance (and extra link checking on that site once the torrents come out)
20:07 * herlo is here
20:08 -!- npatil [n=npatil(a)184.108.40.206] has quit Remote closed the connection
20:08 < ricky> Apart from that, it'll be the normal process for pushing out the new process - syncStatic will be pointed at the f12 branch
20:08 < ricky> We'll also be updating http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Websites_Release_SOP as we go this time
20:08 < mmcgrath> so http://spins-test.fedoraproject.org/ is 100% completed?
20:09 < ricky> I need to ask sijis about the blank download tab, but modulo some last minute browser/link checking, it should be done
20:09 < mmcgrath> Ok.
20:09 * mmcgrath just wants to make sure no surprises for that since it's the one major difference this round.
20:09 < mmcgrath> ricky: anything else on that?
20:10 < dgilmore> ricky: are we going to put the desktop[ spin on the spins page?
20:10 < mmcgrath> I thought I saw it there once. Maybe only in a mockup.
20:10 < ricky> I didn't think so, but we can double check the initial email that the board sent to the websites team with the requirements
20:10 < mmcgrath> I assume if it's not there now it won't be at least by release day?
20:10 -!- thomasj [n=thomasj@fedora/thomasj] has joined #fedora-meeting
20:10 < ricky> It won't be there on release day
20:11 < mmcgrath> k
20:11 < mmcgrath> well if it's decided we need it we can always add it later.
20:11 < mmcgrath> ricky: thanks
20:11 < mmcgrath> Ok
20:11 < mmcgrath> .ticket 1787
20:11 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #1787 (Change Freeze) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1787
20:11 < mmcgrath> We've had a pretty good freeze so far, except for ibiblio1
20:11 < mmcgrath> but it's all taken care of now.
20:11 < mmcgrath> .ticket 1789
20:12 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #1789 (Verify Mirror Space) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1789
20:12 < mmcgrath> smooge: you comfortable with this?
20:12 < smooge> one sec
20:13 < smooge> we will go over until Oxf13 removes alpha/beta
20:13 < mmcgrath> k, and we've also got 9 to remove for extra buffer.
20:13 < Oxf13> I hope to be removing those today
20:13 < mmcgrath> 9 is competely my fault, I forgot to get /pub/archives/ setup during the freeze.
20:13 < smooge> ok as soon as 9 goes we are beut
20:13 < mmcgrath> but I'd think with all that taken care of, we'll be in our normal window for a normal release.
20:13 < mmcgrath> smooge: excellent, go ahead and note that in the ticket and close it.
20:14 < mmcgrath> .ticket 1792
20:14 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #1792 (RHIS Communication) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1792
20:14 < smooge> I thought it was there til this release
20:14 < mmcgrath> They know, I'll send another ticket.
20:14 < mmcgrath> smooge: naw, that one's kind of a one time thing, verify we have enough space for the release. If we do. Go ahead and close it.
20:14 < mmcgrath> .ticket 1790
20:14 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #1790 (Verify RELENG permissions) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1790
20:15 < mmcgrath> smooge: this one though (also to you) has kind of two parts.
20:15 < mmcgrath> which should stay open until after the launch.
20:15 < mmcgrath> Oxf13: you said you'll be staging pretty soon here?
20:15 * mdomsch has to run to a presentation
20:15 < mdomsch> 2 things:
20:15 < mmcgrath> mdomsch: take it
20:15 < mdomsch> 1) how early can we bitflip? hours early please. :-)
20:15 < mdomsch> give mirrors time to catch the bitflip themselves
20:16 < smooge> working on that one til it gets over into staging and then check
20:16 < mmcgrath> Oxf13: thoughts ^^ ?
20:16 < mdomsch> 2) no 'at' installed on bapp1, so someone (me) has to manually run manage-repo-redirects -r -v 12
20:16 < Oxf13> mdomsch: we'll do it just like we did Beta, I can bit flip it 4~ hours in advance
20:16 < mmcgrath> mdomsch: do you want at?
20:16 < mdomsch> to drop the last of the f12 redirects
20:16 < mmcgrath> seems reasonable for it to be on bapp1
20:16 < Oxf13> mdomsch: oh.
20:16 < Oxf13> mdomsch: those redirects will be dropped soon
20:16 < Oxf13> I'm going to make the Everything/ tree live early
20:16 * dgilmore is ok with at being on bapp1
20:17 < Oxf13> so that we can drop the redirects, and move rawhide on to F13
20:17 < mdomsch> Oxf13, ok, just say when
20:17 < mdomsch> that's all I have
20:17 < mmcgrath> mdomsch: thanks, enjoy your presentation!
20:17 < mmcgrath> ok
20:17 < mmcgrath> .ticket 1793
20:17 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #1793 (Modify Template:FedoraVersion) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1793
20:17 < mmcgrath> stickster_afk still has this one
20:18 < mmcgrath> .ticket 1794
20:18 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #1794 (Lessons Learned) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1794
20:18 < mmcgrath> not until after the release
20:18 < mmcgrath> .ticket 1795
20:18 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #1795 (Enable caching wiki) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1795
20:18 < mmcgrath> I'll get this setup on monday.
20:18 < mmcgrath> .ticket 1796
20:18 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #1796 (Disable wiki caching) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1796
20:18 < mmcgrath> I'll do that on Wed :)
20:18 < mmcgrath> .ticket 1797
20:18 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #1797 (Add new release to stats gathering script on log1) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1797
20:18 < mmcgrath> smooge: this one's assigned to you, I suspect you can do this even before F12 launches. I'm not sure if that'd throw an error or divide by zero or something though.
20:19 * mmcgrath is looking at this page btw -
20:19 < mmcgrath> https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/report/9
20:19 < mmcgrath> it dawned on me I hadn't sent that.
20:20 < mmcgrath> Ok, anyone have any questions or concerns related to the release?
20:20 < dgilmore> none
20:20 < mmcgrath> I'm happy we got ibiblio1 fixed before the rush
20:20 < mmcgrath> reminder to everyone, if you can seed the torrent, do it :)
20:20 < mmcgrath> the last few releases (including pre-releases) it's mostly been me, dgilmore and nirik
20:21 * nirik will seed.
20:21 < mmcgrath> and the downloads via torrent for a primary release are pretty popular. The more solid seeders we have the better experience it is for the downloader.
20:21 < dgilmore> as will I
20:21 < mmcgrath> alrighty
20:21 < mmcgrath> #topic some new sponsors
20:21 -!- zodbot changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: some new sponsors (Meeting topic: Infrastructure)
20:22 < mmcgrath> One thing I wanted to mention is we might be getting sponsorship soon by someone providing servers in the UK and canada.
20:22 < smooge> I will have that ticket closed by tomorrow
20:22 < dgilmore> mmcgrath: that would be cool
20:22 < mmcgrath> the details are still all up in the air but I like to be transparent about stuff like that so keep an eye out!
20:22 < smooge> ooooh
20:22 < smooge> I want to do site installs
20:22 < dgilmore> mmcgrath: as would some boxes in apac
20:22 < mmcgrath> hehehe
20:23 < mmcgrath> indeed.
20:23 < mmcgrath> so that's all I've got on that.
20:23 < mmcgrath> oh
20:23 < mmcgrath> #topic ibiblio1
20:23 -!- zodbot changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: ibiblio1 (Meeting topic: Infrastructure)
20:23 < skvidal> what fun
20:23 < skvidal> anything else wrong, now? or is it fine?
20:23 < mmcgrath> I guess if you weren't paying attention you might have missed this and just known a bunch of downtime was scheduled.
20:23 < mmcgrath> skvidal: thanks to you and don, all is well
20:23 < dgilmore> skvidal: you rock
20:23 < mmcgrath> basically we had some memory issues. reported it to IBM, they had us do the swap game.
20:24 * skvidal is the master of 'xm con; login; sudo halt -p'
20:24 < mmcgrath> then had us do the swap game again
20:24 < skvidal> dgilmore: hardly - I was playing monkey with a keyboard
20:24 < mmcgrath> then shipped the memory out and we got it replaced.
20:24 < mmcgrath> but now all is well
20:24 < mmcgrath> knock
20:24 < mmcgrath> on
20:24 < mmcgrath> wood
20:24 < skvidal> dgilmore: don and mmcgrath did the real work - don for actually doing the memory swapping, mmcgrath for dealing with ibm
20:24 < skvidal> mmcgrath: no kidding knock on wood
20:24 < dgilmore> skvidal: but you play it really really well
20:24 < skvidal> mmcgrath: do you have ibm on speed dial?
20:25 < dgilmore> im pretty sure he does
20:25 < mmcgrath> skvidal: I do for my soft phone, It's only got 2 speed dial numbers :)
20:25 < skvidal> :)
20:25 < mmcgrath> interestingly I have to call their toll line as the toll free line doesn't work with RH's voip setup.
20:25 < mmcgrath> as strange as that is.
20:26 < mmcgrath> it doesn't actually ring, it goes straight to 'press blah for blah' and for some reason our setup doesn't realize that so I just keep hearing ringing :)
20:26 < mmcgrath> anyway
20:26 < mmcgrath> that's it on that
20:26 < mmcgrath> #topic Open Floor
20:26 -!- zodbot changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Open Floor (Meeting topic: Infrastructure)
20:26 < mmcgrath> anyone have anything else they'd like to discuss?
20:26 < smooge> I am working on getting various hosting today done.
20:26 < skvidal> what are we doing about the weather? It's way too cold and rainy here
20:27 < smooge> I need some help on altering groups I messed up with.
20:27 < skvidal> - oh - you meant anything relevant to discuss
20:27 < smooge> we are going to have snow today
20:27 < mmcgrath> skvidal: well, I've been letting my car run to at least try to warm things up :)
20:27 < skvidal> mmcgrath: nice
20:27 < mmcgrath> smooge: sure, I can help with the group alteration
20:27 < smooge> I will try to SOP it up if needed
20:27 < smooge> s/try//
20:28 < mmcgrath> oh hey, and looks like openSuSE 11.2 is out for those looking to try it :)
20:28 < mmcgrath> Ok, if no one has anything else we'll close early today in 30s.
20:29 < mmcgrath> #endmeeting
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20:29 < mmcgrath> booya!
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On 2009-11-11 03:07:42 PM, Ricky Zhou wrote:
> > It would be reasonable to provide some automation for a single
> > document, but since no two documents seem to use the same
> > naming/directory structure, such an effort would have to be on a per
> > document basis. It might seem to make more sense to restructure the
> > site so there was some consistency, but given the number of
> > documents/formats/languages and the slowness of cvs that turns out
> > to be a huge job.
> Would it be possible to get even a plain white list of languages links
> to the HTML documents for just
> http://docs.fedoraproject.org/install-guide/f12/ and
> http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release-notes/f12/, or could we get a list
> of URLs that need to be directed to the main docs.fp.o index?
> We can't really change the link on the website at this point, being way
> past the string freeze, and it's pretty important that those links go to
> something especially for the F12 release (although fp.o is already
> currently full of these broken links for F11 docs).
If this is fine with you guys, here's a change request to add redirects
for those two to the docs.fp.o index page where visitors can choose
their language and version of the document they want.
diff --git a/modules/fedora-docs/files/fedora-docs-proxy.conf b/modules/fedora-docs/files/fedora-docs-
index 259cfbd..61dfc04 100644
@@ -7,6 +7,15 @@ RewriteRule ^(.*)/fc7$ http://docs.fedoraproject.org/$1/f7/ [R,L]
RewriteRule ^/release-notes/f10preview(.*) /release-notes/f10$1 [R=301,L]
RewriteRule ^/release-notes/f11preview(.*) /release-notes/f11$1 [R=301,L]
+# Language selection indexes for these documents are gone now, so redirect
+# to the main docs page where users can choose their language.
+RewriteRule ^/release-notes/f11/$ / [R=301,L]
+RewriteRule ^/release-notes/f12/$ / [R=301,L]
+RewriteRule ^/install-guide/f11/$ / [R=301,L]
+RewriteRule ^/install-guide/f12/$ / [R=301,L]
Alternatively, we can update all links to point at eg.
http://docs.fedoraproject.org/install-guide/f12/en-US/html/ and mark
those as translatable, which would be a late break of the string freeze,
but still a pretty small one (the effect would be that all website links
would point to the English doc until translators update them to point to
their specific language's URL).
FYI for those that don't follow the other lists.
---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 20:05:02
From: inode0 <inode0(a)gmail.com>
To: fedora-advisory-board(a)redhat.com, fedora-announce-list(a)redhat.com,
Subject: F13 Naming: Leonidas -> Constantine -> <New Name>?
With Fedora 12 just a few days from release it is time to begin the
naming process for the next Fedora release.
Contributors can make suggestions for the name for Fedora 13 by visiting
and following the instructions.
Remember there needs to be an "is-a" link between the name Constantine
and the name you suggest and this link must be different than all
previous links used to connect Fedora release names.
Full details of the release naming schedule are available on the above
link but please note than the period for gathering suggestions begins
now and runs through November 16.
So there isn't a lot of time, think up some good names, and get them
added to the wiki.
fedora-advisory-board mailing list
There will be an outage starting at 2009-11-09 14:00 UTC, which will last
approximately 1 hour.
To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at
date -d '2009-11-09 14:00 UTC'
CVS / Source Control
Reason for Outage:
IBM wants us reseat the DIMMs and get FRU information off of them. Don is
going to do this work for us (thanks ibiblio). Seth is going to do a
Please join #fedora-admin in irc.freenode.net or respond to this email to
trackthe status of this outage.
Stephen J Smoogen.
Ah, but a man's reach should exceed his grasp. Or what's a heaven for?
-- Robert Browning