Name : Ashwin Muni
Country : India
City : Mumbai
State : Maharashtra
Timezone : +5:30
Experience in FOSS : 5 years
I am a Linux System and Network Administrator working for an IT
Company. I Would
like to join the Fedora Project and work with the community because i
have found immense power and growth in the community . Being a part of
the community i would directly and indirectly grow my thirst of
About Me :
Webservers : Apache , Nginx, Lightttpd
Mailservers : Postfix, QMAIL,Sendmail, Dovecot, Courier, (Also Dspam,
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Firewalls : IPCop
Currently Focused on
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Database Clustering and Recovering after Database Corruption
Also please let me know if any other information about me is Required
Linux System / Network Adminstrator
Hello Everyone. My name is Bobby Cox and a Linux SA in Houston, TX.
I've been working with linux/unix for about 8 years now. I currently
work for a start up helping expose others to open-source by providing
VMs of various open-source projects for use via a browser.
I started with RH 5.2, then moved to Gentoo and then Fedora, CentOS
and RHEL depending on the environment. I can script in shell, perl
and am currently learning python.
Please allow me to help when and where necessary. It would be a honor
to help the Fedora Project.
Hello Everyone, I am Parag Radke. i recently completed my Bachelors’ in
Computer Sci. & Engg. I am Interested in Operating Systems and Compiler
Design. I join this team because i want to contribute to the world of open
source and want to learn the open source tech. I am using fedora from some
time and even used ubuntu as well. I even did my final year project on
parallel compilers. I am not very familiar with the way people execute the
task here. so please help me in this regard and guide me so that i can
contribute in some useful way.
Thanx & Regards.
Hi Infrastructure Team,
At your earliest convenience please fill the name of the additional
person from your team that would like to attend the Fedora 11
Retrospective. This meeting will be a conference call to talk about the
good and not so good of the Fedora 11 release cycle in with the hope
that we can make Fedora 12 even better!
If the team lead is not able to attend please substitute another person
on the sign-up page below so that there are two people from each team.
Also avaliable at:
20:00 < mmcgrath> #startmeeting
20:00 < fedbot> Meeting started Thu Jun 11 20:00:09 2009 UTC. The chair is mmcgrath.
20:00 < fedbot> Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot , Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic.
20:00 * ricky
20:00 < mmcgrath> #topic Infrastructure -- Who's here?
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20:00 -!- fedbot changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- Who's here?
20:00 * ricky
20:00 * LinuxCode
20:00 * SmootherFrOgZ is
20:00 * lmacken
20:00 * mmcgrath is here
20:00 * nirik is lurking around.
20:01 < mmcgrath> Ok, well lets get started
20:01 < mmcgrath> #topic Infrastructure -- F11 Release
20:01 -!- fedbot changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- F11 Release
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20:01 < mmcgrath> .ticket 1395
20:01 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #1395 (Lessons Learned) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1395
20:01 < mmcgrath> So what went wrong with this release?
20:02 < mmcgrath> All in all I think it went very well.
20:02 < nirik> very little I think. ;)
20:02 < mmcgrath> The early bit flip (thanks f13) provided a 75% mirror rate when the anouncement went out.
20:02 * herlo is lurking
20:02 < mmcgrath> thats much better then for F10.
20:02 < ricky> I didn't expect docs links to change, so we had to do some last-minute updates that made us a bit late
20:02 < ricky> We'll make sure to double check that better next time around.
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20:02 < mmcgrath> Also, as mdomsch has pointed out many times, the torrents were screaming. The fastest torrent dl's I've ever had during a release.
20:03 * sijis is here.
20:03 < mmcgrath> 15-20 minutes for 4 isos compared to 8 or 9 hours previously.
20:03 * ianweller
20:03 * abadger1999 here
20:03 < nirik> yeah, due to them opening early we got a lot more seeders at release time.
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20:03 < mmcgrath> ricky: should we make that a docs task or an us task?
20:03 < ricky> That'll be a websites task, I'll send links to the test page to list in advance.
20:04 * johe_ here too, by the way
20:04 < mmcgrath> k
20:04 < mmcgrath> The other thing that went kind of wacky was the bit leaks we had the thursday or friday before hand.
20:04 < mmcgrath> I think f13 is working on those though.
20:05 < mmcgrath> Oh, one other thing.
20:05 < mmcgrath> Proxy3 was hurting.
20:05 < mmcgrath> And I think I know why but I need to do a bit more research.
20:05 < mmcgrath> long story short it was doing too much.
20:05 < mmcgrath> I think it's just because it's one of our slower boxes in terms of cpu and disk.
20:05 < ricky> Did the x86_64 vs. i386 difference also come into play?
20:06 < mmcgrath> ricky: not this time. But proxy1 and proxy2 are kind of odd because they're behind a balancer.
20:06 * mmcgrath needs to fix that.
20:06 < ricky> Ah
20:06 < mmcgrath> But once the release was out the door.... Things went great.
20:06 < mmcgrath> Anyone have anything else on this topic?
20:06 < rjune_wrk> why are they behind the balancer, but the slowest box has to face the cold cruel world all alone?
20:07 < mmcgrath> rjune_wrk: well, we've got 4 sites, only one of which has a balancer.
20:07 < mmcgrath> so we've got 5 proxy servers, 2 behind the balancer, the others are all at the various sites.
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20:07 < rjune_wrk> ah, ok.
20:07 < mmcgrath> Ok, anyone have anything else?
20:07 < mmcgrath> Solid
20:08 < mmcgrath> #topic Infrastructure -- Fedora Community
20:08 -!- fedbot changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- Fedora Community
20:08 < lmacken> We deployed our first TurboGears2 application this week :)
20:08 < mmcgrath> So fedora community shipped.
20:08 < mmcgrath> lmacken: you want to talk a bit about all of it?
20:08 < lmacken> Sure
20:08 < SmootherFrOgZ> \o/
20:08 < lmacken> Software speaking, not much went wrong.
20:08 * mmcgrath is talking about https://admin.fedoraproject.org/community/
20:08 < lmacken> I hit some insane traceback during staging that was caused by pointing to the unresolvabl
20:08 < lmacken> e db1.stg, instead of just db1. Other than that, everything went very smooth.
20:09 < lmacken> It's using both of our new memecached servers, using postgres on db2 for the feed store, and currently load balancing to mod_wsgi on app1 and 2
20:09 < lmacken> and it's the snappiest I've ever seen the app as of yet
20:09 -!- sseiersen|away is now known as sseiersen
20:09 < lmacken> but anyway, I did another update today to fix a variety of bugs, and we're going to keep cranking on it
20:09 < mmcgrath> It also means we can, at our leasure, convert our apps to TG2.
20:09 < lmacken> I want to plan a post-mortem when spot gets back from vacation
20:10 < lmacken> so we can talk about what happened, and how we can do it better
20:10 < mmcgrath> lmacken: is the whole tg2 stack in Fedora yet? I need to install and start playing with it.
20:10 < lmacken> the whole TurboGears2/FedoraCommunity/Moksha stack is in our fedora-infrastructure repo, and a chunk of it is still under review
20:10 < ricky> Does our tg2 support mean close-to automatic support for pylons as well?
20:10 < lmacken> ricky: yes
20:10 < ricky> Awesome
20:11 < lmacken> pylons should work fine now
20:11 < mmcgrath> excellent.
20:11 < mmcgrath> Anyone have any questions for Luke on fedora community?
20:11 < lmacken> I will start writing up a TurboGears2 SOP
20:11 < abadger1999> I'd like to get together some questions to ask spot wrt licensing.
20:12 < ricky> I guess that can be discussed at the post-mortem as soon as spot is back - can that be on IRC?
20:12 < abadger1999> That way we can have less round trips to legal.
20:12 < abadger1999> IRC +1
20:12 < mmcgrath> <nod> I just want to be better educated about it before I copy and paste :)
20:12 < lmacken> yes, it will be public, probably on irc or asterisk
20:13 < rjune_wrk> IRC+1
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20:13 < mmcgrath> Anyone have anything else on this?
20:13 < abadger1999> asterisk -1; IRC is better for public stuff.
20:13 < lmacken> mmcgrath: when do you wanna spread to app3-6?
20:13 < mmcgrath> lmacken: good work, thanks for the time you've put in on it.
20:13 < lmacken> abadger1999: agreed
20:14 < mmcgrath> lmacken: today or tomorrow. I know you did some updates, were they straight rpm updates?
20:14 < lmacken> mmcgrath: thank you. Thanks for your help as well, couldn't have done it without you guys
20:14 < lmacken> mmcgrath: yep, straight rpm updates
20:14 < mmcgrath> coolz.
20:14 < mmcgrath> ok so next topic
20:15 < mmcgrath> #topic Infrastructure -- Memcached
20:15 -!- fedbot changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- Memcached
20:15 < mmcgrath> we've been slipping down the slippery slope that is memcached.
20:15 < mmcgrath> a month ago we were using it for sessions on the wiki.
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20:15 < mmcgrath> starting today we've got 3 apps using it and dedicated memcached servers.
20:16 < mmcgrath> the fas memcached stuff is going to exist just on the fas servers for security reasons.
20:16 < mmcgrath> everything else is on memcached[1-2]
20:16 < mmcgrath> ricky: do you want to remove memcached from puppet on app[1-2] or do you want me to
20:16 < mmcgrath> ?
20:16 < ricky> I'll get that after the meeting
20:16 < mmcgrath> solid
20:16 < mmcgrath> Nothing major here, just mentioning it. Any questions?
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20:16 < ricky> Speaking of security, I just want to let everybody know that load access into memcached = arbitrary command execution with python-memcached
20:17 < ricky> So be careful about that :-)
20:17 < mmcgrath> <nod>
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20:17 < mmcgrath> k
20:18 < mmcgrath> #topic Infrastructure -- fas update
20:18 -!- fedbot changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- fas update
20:18 < mmcgrath> So we just got done (well, are still doing) the fas updates.
20:18 < mmcgrath> This was a pretty major change as changes go.
20:18 < mmcgrath> Especially in how our shell accounts and aliases are generated.
20:18 < mmcgrath> So keep your eyes out for oddities.
20:19 < mmcgrath> So far things have been going fine, we've been running in staging for a while now without issue.
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20:19 < mmcgrath> I'm going to be moving our fas-sync to run more often on some of our more public servers
20:19 < mmcgrath> fedorapeople, fedorahosted, cvs, etc.
20:19 < mmcgrath> Any questions there?
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20:19 < ricky> Woohoo :-) My goal is <= 5 minutes sync time
20:20 < mmcgrath> :)
20:20 < mmcgrath> Ok
20:20 < mmcgrath> #topic Infrastructure -- Outage this morning
20:20 -!- fedbot changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- Outage this morning
20:20 < mmcgrath> So we had some doom this morning for those of you hanging out in #sysadmin-noc
20:20 < mmcgrath> Not sure what happened yet but I opened a bug about it
20:20 < mmcgrath> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/505352
20:20 < mmcgrath> xen13 up and died.
20:20 < mmcgrath> and took db2 with it, twice.
20:20 < mmcgrath> I moved db2 to a different host, hasn't happened since.
20:21 < mmcgrath> at the moment, nothing new on this so I'll move on.
20:21 < mmcgrath> #topic Infrastructure -- Pkgdb update
20:21 -!- fedbot changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- Pkgdb update
20:21 < mmcgrath> abadger1999: we're on for a pkgdb rollout on Monday?
20:21 < abadger1999> that's right.
20:21 < mmcgrath> and this is a wsgi conversion?
20:21 < mmcgrath> any other changes?
20:21 < abadger1999> It's a major update that gets us using wsgi for the packagedb, all the bugfixes that accrued during change freeze,
20:22 < mmcgrath> I've still got smolt to convert.
20:22 < abadger1999> moving to usernames instead of userids i nthe public API.
20:22 < mmcgrath> after that I *think* all of our tg stuff will be good to go.
20:22 < ricky> Afdter pkgdb and smolt, will all of our apps be on haproxy + wsgi?
20:22 < abadger1999> Switching package status from the orphan owner to the status field.
20:22 < abadger1999> Lots of stuff changing.
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20:23 < lmacken> I'll get a new bodhi ready to go at that time
20:23 < lmacken> I should probably get a new one into staging now so we can test bodhi#319
20:23 < mmcgrath> ricky: I believe so.
20:24 < abadger1999> lmacken: Excellent
20:24 < mmcgrath> lmacken: sounds good.
20:24 < mmcgrath> Anything else on this?
20:24 < abadger1999> Test out admin.stg.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb ! ;-)
20:24 < mmcgrath> hehehe
20:24 < mmcgrath> #topic Infrastructure -- releng1.stg
20:24 -!- fedbot changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- releng1.stg
20:24 < abadger1999> I'm sure there's more bugs since this has major changes.
20:24 < ricky> After the pkgdb update, let's go through staging
20:24 < mmcgrath> speaking of staging
20:24 < mmcgrath> abadger1999: yeah :)
20:25 < mmcgrath> releng1.stg is nearing rediness.
20:25 < ricky> And make sure to get all the commits we want out of it before restarting the branch.
20:25 < mmcgrath> lmacken: I need to find out from you and jwb what is missing from it. I think it's going to take a close eye to make sure we know what we're putting in staging.
20:25 < mmcgrath> cron jobs and things that might fail, that sort of thing.
20:25 < lmacken> mmcgrath: readonly mount of /mnt/koji?
20:25 < mmcgrath> lmacken: it'll have that.
20:26 < lmacken> ok, to test mashing and whatnot, we'll have to tweak some paths
20:26 < mmcgrath> lmacken: and I don't think anything mash like is installed yet.
20:26 < mmcgrath> but I figure we'll work through it one boy one until it's usable for you and jwb.
20:27 < lmacken> ok, cool
20:27 < mmcgrath> I also assume you're going to need some sort of $TEMP_STORAGE
20:27 < lmacken> yeah
20:27 < mmcgrath> that's fairly large. we'll figure that out when the time comes.
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20:27 < mmcgrath> was jwb at FAD?
20:27 < lmacken> yep
20:27 < mmcgrath> probably traveling / busy
20:27 < mmcgrath> we'll get ahold of him.
20:27 < mmcgrath> ok, ricky :)
20:27 < mmcgrath> #topic Infrastructure -- Staging
20:27 -!- fedbot changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- Staging
20:28 < mmcgrath> So we need to refresh the staging branch at some point soon.
20:28 < mmcgrath> and make sure all of our staging commits get merged back with master.
20:28 < mmcgrath> ricky: what are a rundown of some of the commits left?
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20:28 < mmcgrath> I know pkgdb had a bunch.
20:29 < ricky> Here's the full diff: http://ricky.fedorapeople.org/staging.diff
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20:29 < ricky> It's mostly pkgdb, I thnk
20:29 < ricky> **think
20:29 < ricky> It's not that bad, so we might get away with not blowing it away
20:30 < ricky> But I guess that's something to look at once pkgdb changes have been merged.
20:30 < abadger1999> pkgdb will be synced after Monday, so that's good.
20:30 < mmcgrath> Yeah
20:30 < ricky> Cool.
20:30 < abadger1999> Do we have a good recipe for merging the changes yet?
20:30 < ricky> And thanks to mmcgrath for starting to merge often this week
20:30 < mmcgrath> All in all, considering we don't really monitor this interaction much... things are in better shape then they otherwise could be.
20:30 < mmcgrath> ricky: figured i'd make a habit of it
20:31 < ricky> abadger1999: It'll probably consist mostly of finding out what we want to keep or throw away
20:32 < ricky> The process of merging isn't that painful at all, just getting updates on half-finished or abandoned work in staging.
20:32 < abadger1999> ricky: I'm just wondering, can I copy changes from staging to production, commit, and git will figure it out? Or do I need to use some git command to pick out specific changesets?
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20:33 < ricky> It's cleaner to cherry-pick, but I *think* hand-copying will work as well. I haven't tried doing work that way though, so I'm not sure how well it gets handled.
20:33 < ricky> I think the diff is short enough for us to go through it manually though.
20:33 < mmcgrath> I've hand-copied with success in the past.
20:33 < mmcgrath> but try to use git just so I'm mo'betta with it.
20:35 < abadger1999> Okay. We'll see what it looks like after Monday's merge ;-)
20:35 < mmcgrath> Ok, anything else on that?
20:35 < mmcgrath> yeah
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20:35 < mmcgrath> With that, we'll open the floor
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20:35 < mmcgrath> #topic Infrastructure -- Open Floor
20:35 -!- fedbot changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- Open Floor
20:35 < mmcgrath> Anyone have anything they'd like to discuss?
20:35 < LinuxCode> apart from a million questions I have ?
20:35 < LinuxCode> lol
20:35 < ricky> Ask away :-)
20:36 < LinuxCode> I will have to figure out what is done for what purpose the enxt weeks
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20:36 < LinuxCode> ricky, I ask you guys the next weeks, or we would be here all night
20:36 < LinuxCode> lol
20:36 < ricky> feel free to ask in #fedora-admin after the meeting as well
20:36 < LinuxCode> Id like to figure out how everything fits together
20:36 < LinuxCode> sure
20:36 < LinuxCode> I have one question though, the fas update was to kill bugs ?
20:37 < LinuxCode> it said so in the email I had
20:37 < abadger1999> LinuxCode: For some definition of bugs, yes.
20:37 < LinuxCode> abadger1999, I take it to make sure that people participate and not just sign up then ?
20:37 < abadger1999> Ther were bugs and there was also performance problems that were causing failures to occur.
20:37 < LinuxCode> ohh ok
20:37 < LinuxCode> i see
20:38 < ricky> The extra @fp.o aliases being created was a bug too
20:38 < LinuxCode> ricky, thats what I meant
20:38 < ricky> Unfortunately, it went unnoticed for a loong time.
20:38 < LinuxCode> would have been nice to give people a week though to sort themselves out
20:38 < ricky> The policy hasn't changed, it was just a bug that we weren't enforcing it.
20:38 < LinuxCode> I had the email today saying about the bug
20:39 < LinuxCode> hmm k
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20:39 < LinuxCode> well it doesnt matter now
20:39 < LinuxCode> for me anyway
20:39 < LinuxCode> ;-}
20:39 < mmcgrath> heheh
20:39 < mmcgrath> Anyone have anything else to discuss? If not we'll close the meeting early.
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20:40 < mmcgrath> Closing in 30
20:40 < mmcgrath> 10
20:40 < mmcgrath> #endmeeting