We've got a tech on site that needs to take backup1 down to install an SAS
adapter and new tape drive. You may remember this was requested before,
we didn't have the right cable / card on site so the request was approved
but the change wasn't made.
Google has announced the release of its Page Speed tool under the Apache
license. "Page Speed is a tool we've been using internally to improve
the performance of our web pages"
19:59 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- Who's here
20:00 * sijis is here.
20:00 * johe is around
20:00 * dgilmore is here
20:01 * mdomsch waves
20:01 * ricky
20:01 < mmcgrath> K, lets get started
20:01 * SmootherFrOgZ is here
20:01 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- Release Tickets
20:02 < mmcgrath> https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/report/9
20:02 * mharris is everywhere
20:02 < mmcgrath> .ticket 1387
20:02 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #1387 (New Website) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1387
20:02 < mmcgrath> ricky: we all set there?
20:02 < ricky> Yup, and I'll be here to push it on release day.
20:02 < ricky> I'll do more link checking today
20:03 < mmcgrath> excellent.
20:03 < mmcgrath> .ticket 1389
20:03 < mmcgrath> tracker ticket
20:03 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #1389 (Release Day Ticket) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1389
20:03 -!- hanthana [n=hanthana(a)18.104.22.168] has joined #fedora-meeting
20:03 < mmcgrath> .ticket 1390
20:03 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #1390 (Verify permissions) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1390
20:03 < mmcgrath> So the permissions were messed up this morning, they are now 750
20:03 < mmcgrath> but were 755
20:03 * mmcgrath pings warthog9 to see if he's syncing properly now
20:03 -!- smooge [n=smooge(a)nausicaa.unm.edu] has joined #fedora-meeting
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20:05 < mmcgrath> k, looks like he's all good
20:05 < mmcgrath> smooge: how's it going?
20:05 < mmcgrath> .ticket 1391
20:05 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #1391 (Add MirrorManager redirects) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1391
20:05 < mmcgrath> mdomsch: ?
20:05 < smooge> mmcgrath, trying to get done with my current job
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20:06 < mmcgrath> smooge: I'm sure tha'ts fun
20:07 < mmcgrath> IIRC this one's done but we need to remove them after F11 ships.
20:07 < mmcgrath> .ticket 1392
20:07 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #1392 (RHIS Communication) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1392
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20:07 < dgilmore> mmcgrath: whats involved in that
20:07 < smooge> mmcgrath, yeah.. its the classic grieving process and they are uhm stuck on anger at the moment :)
20:08 < mmcgrath> dgilmore: I email them and say "hey there's a release on this day" and then I say "it slipped to this day"
20:08 < dgilmore> mmcgrath: k
20:08 < mmcgrath> .ticket 1393
20:08 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #1393 (Infrastructure Change Freeze) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1393
20:08 < sijis> why do we need to notify them? (just curious)
20:08 < mmcgrath> Still in effect.
20:09 < mmcgrath> sijis: mostly coordination. They provide a lot of our network infrastructure now. It'd be bad for them to schedule an outage or something on a release day.
20:09 < sijis> understood.
20:09 < dgilmore> mmcgrath: we should remind everyone to send change requests
20:09 < mmcgrath> we'll have been frozen for a month after F11 ships. so much stuff piling up :-/
20:09 < mmcgrath> yeah, every make sure you're still sending change requests.
20:09 < mmcgrath> it's only _really_ serious during this final freeze.
20:10 < mmcgrath> .ticket 1394
20:10 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #1394 (Common Issues on the wiki) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1394
20:10 < mmcgrath> this is a release day ticket, ianweller will handle it day of
20:10 < mmcgrath> same with
20:10 < mmcgrath> .ticket 1395
20:10 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #1395 (Lessons Learned) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1395
20:10 < mmcgrath> though that one is just release day, we all talk about it
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20:11 < mmcgrath> Anyone have any other questions?
20:11 < dgilmore> none
20:12 < Jorn23> I have a question.
20:12 < mmcgrath> K, so the release will hopefully go nice and smoothe
20:12 < mmcgrath> Jorn23: sure
20:12 < mmcgrath> Jorn23: what is it?
20:12 < Jorn23> Will the freeze be lifted once Fedora 11 has been released, or will the freeze remain - let's say - for a week after thee release?
20:13 < Jorn23> the release*
20:13 < ricky> It's lifted one day after the release
20:13 < ricky> Er, 24 hours
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20:14 < Jorn23> Ah, alright.
20:14 < mmcgrath> yeah, just till the day after.
20:15 < mmcgrath> OK, so next topic
20:15 < mmcgrath> hosting
20:15 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- Hosting Content.
20:15 < mmcgrath> i want peoples input on - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/SOP/Content_Hosting
20:15 < mmcgrath> So give it a read and comment.
20:16 < ricky> Just curious - how many outside people mirror alt?
20:16 < ricky> And what are we going to do about secondary1 usually being at its knees with apache already?
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20:17 < dgilmore> ricky: there is a few mirroring secondary arches
20:17 < mmcgrath> ricky: I have yet to actually see it at its knees except for one time a few weeks ago.
20:17 < mmcgrath> we'll just tune it properly.
20:17 < mmcgrath> also secondary1 will go away when the new mirrors are updated.
20:17 < dgilmore> mmcgrath: speaking of this im uploading s390 content right now
20:17 < ricky> Oh, new mirrors?
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20:18 < mmcgrath> ricky: yeah, it's about 17 months since I requested them :)
20:18 < mmcgrath> so they're due to be ready soon.
20:18 < mmcgrath> actually right now they're blocking on our change freeze.
20:18 < ricky> Oh, so this is the netapp space?
20:18 < mmcgrath> yeah
20:18 < dgilmore> http://archive.kernel.org/fedora-alt/kernel.org mirrors alt
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20:19 < mmcgrath> ricky: I think our mirror manager tracks that stuff, I can't remember where.
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20:20 < mdomsch> just 3 mirroring pub/alt/videos
20:20 < mdomsch> you have to ask it on a per-dir basis
20:20 < mmcgrath> mdomsch: is there a link on that?
20:20 < dgilmore> mdomsch: more doing secondary right
20:20 < mdomsch> wget -O - 'http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/mirrorlist?path=pub/alt/videos&country=g...'
20:20 < mmcgrath> sweet
20:21 < mmcgrath> Anyone have any problems with the policy as it's written there?
20:21 < sijis> how much space are we allocating? is it based on the request or is it a standard?
20:21 < dgilmore> mmcgrath: seems fine. its maybe a litlle vague on secondary
20:21 < mdomsch> wget -O - 'http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/mirrorlist?path=pub/fedora-secondary/rel...'
20:21 < Jorn23> Just one note. Perhaps I missed it, but I cannot really see how to request space.
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20:21 < mdomsch> shows 8
20:21 < mmcgrath> dgilmore: this isn't so much for secondary, that follows already official patterns.
20:22 < johe> Jorn23, by ticket
20:22 < mmcgrath> the secondary archs are already approved to host content on that mirror.
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20:22 < dgilmore> mmcgrath: ok, it was mentioned in there
20:22 < Jorn23> Johe: Alright, by default all requests go via trac tickets?
20:22 < mmcgrath> sijis: as much as we have there, we'll have to re-visit when the new mirrors are ready.
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20:22 < mmcgrath> Jorn23: correct, we do almost all requests of any type via ticket.
20:23 < Jorn23> mmcgrath: Alright, good to know.
20:23 < mmcgrath> mdomsch: should I have /pub/alt/spins/FEL or just /pub/alt/FEL ?
20:24 < mdomsch> mmcgrath, whatever you want
20:24 < mdomsch> grouping spins makes sense
20:24 < mmcgrath> mdomsch: k
20:25 < mdomsch> mmcgrath, how about matching the releases/ tree
20:25 < mdomsch> so spins/11/FEL/
20:25 < mdomsch> spins/11/someotherspin
20:26 < mmcgrath> So anyone have any additional questions or comments on that? Right now we have 2T or so available for it, I can expand that to, at most, 4T.
20:26 < mmcgrath> until the primary mirrors are ready.
20:26 < mmcgrath> mdomsch: worksforme
20:27 < mmcgrath> Ok, so next topic.
20:27 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- The Flood Gates
20:27 < mmcgrath> So we've been frozen for a very long time.
20:27 < mmcgrath> and have accumulated a bunch of updates in that time.
20:27 < mmcgrath> I don't want us going and changing everything at once.
20:28 < mmcgrath> Just a handful of stuff that is in the pipeline - Migration to our new memcached servers, pkgdb update, fas update, migration of cvs1 to different storage and a lot of much smaller projects.
20:28 -!- comraderaikov is now known as comraderaikov|aw
20:28 < comraderaikov|aw> is away: Gone away for now. Be back soon.
20:28 -!- tatica is now known as tatica-out
20:28 < mdomsch> please keep the website, wiki, and mirror stuff as much untouched as possible the first week...
20:28 < sijis> i think its looks fine.
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20:28 < mmcgrath> mdomsch: <nod>
20:28 < mmcgrath> and I want to change fas before pkgdb
20:29 < mdomsch> things that the few million users will see
20:29 < ricky> There will be a python-fedora update along with the one too, which will take some work to push out.
20:29 < mmcgrath> not both at the same time because if we happen to run into performance issues, it'll be very difficult to track down due to the nature of changes in each.
20:29 < mmcgrath> ricky: define "some work"
20:29 < mmcgrath> and does the pkgdb or fas update block on that?
20:29 < ricky> Either messing with func or using puppet and making sure it gets run everywhere it needs to
20:30 < ricky> If we want what's in FAS now added (which would be a good gain), yes
20:31 < mmcgrath> ricky: see #fedora-noc :)
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20:31 < mmcgrath> ricky: k, so we'll do python-fedora first.
20:31 < mmcgrath> Anyone have anything else they'd like to discuss on that?
20:31 < mmcgrath> Anyone have any major changes to make in the next month?
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20:32 * mmcgrath guesses not.
20:32 < mmcgrath> and with that
20:32 < mdomsch> none here
20:32 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- Open Floor
20:32 * ricky pokes lmacken
20:32 < mmcgrath> anyone have anything general to talk about?
20:32 < mmcgrath> smooge: anything?
20:32 < mmcgrath> lmacken: anything?
20:32 < smooge> one sec
20:32 < smooge> sorry I don't have any topics this week
20:32 < mdomsch> how about adding rsync modules to torrent1 and spins to expose the .torrent files?
20:33 < lmacken> yes
20:33 < smooge> 2 weeks I will have some
20:33 < lmacken> Fedora Community!
20:33 < mmcgrath> mdomsch: I think that's reasonable. Do you want to take that or should I?
20:33 < lmacken> So, as of about 20 minutes ago, we're pretty much ready to push Fedora Community into staging.
20:33 < mdomsch> I can. Plan to expose .torrent files only, not the underlying content?
20:33 < mmcgrath> lmacken: one sec
20:33 < lmacken> mmcgrath: yep :)
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20:34 < mmcgrath> mdomsch: So my torrent-foo is still weak. What would I need to become a seeder?
20:34 < dgilmore> only that sparc sparc64 and s390x trees are getting very close to primary arch fedora trees
20:34 < dgilmore> ive been pushing content in daily
20:34 < mdomsch> mine's not great either. Basically, put content in the expected directories that the .torrent specifies
20:34 < mdomsch> then start the torrent and wait for the traacker to come online
20:35 * nirik nods.
20:35 < mdomsch> I'll think about it and get back
20:35 < mdomsch> or if someone else with torrent-foo wants to, even better
20:35 < mmcgrath> mdomsch: thanks, if you want to test ahead of time I'd be happy to. I'd like to have SOP instructions for these for people.
20:35 < mmcgrath> mdomsch: anything else for now?
20:35 < mdomsch> nope
20:35 < mdomsch> lmacken, you're up
20:35 < lmacken> So, we're pretty much ready to put Fedora Community into staging...
20:36 < lmacken> The TurboGears2/Moksha/Fedora Community stack is all packaged and under review. I have publictest16 hooked up to my TG2 fedorapeople repo, and it seems to be working great thus far, and hasn't caused any conflicts with TG1 as far as I can tell.
20:36 < lmacken> J5 made the initial puppet config in a separate branch in our puppet git repo.
20:36 < lmacken> The next step is to push this on to app1.stg, and make sure it works, along with all of the other TG1 apps on there. I was planning on sending a change request today about this. If it's not approved, we'll keep the instance of pt16 for now, and deploy after the change freeze.
20:36 < lmacken> questions, comments, concerns?
20:36 < mmcgrath> lmacken: how long, in your best guess, will it be before the rpms are completely in Fedora proper?
20:36 < lmacken> mmcgrath: ideally before F11....
20:36 < lmacken> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/TurboGears2
20:36 < lmacken> we still need more reviewers
20:37 < mmcgrath> specifically the deps, not so much the the actual code for the apps.
20:37 < lmacken> yeah, I'm shooting to get it all in by F11... but it all depends on how many reviewers we get to help
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20:37 < mmcgrath> <nod> I'll send some bugs out on the list.
20:37 < lmacken> cool
20:37 < mmcgrath> Ok, so with lmacken wanting to use staging now is a good of time as any to ask...
20:37 < mmcgrath> anyone mind if I rebuild staging?
20:38 < mmcgrath> mdomsch: ?
20:38 < mmcgrath> abadger1999: ?
20:38 < mmcgrath> ricky: ?
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20:38 * mmcgrath thinks they're the only ones currently using it.
20:38 < mdomsch> fine by me
20:38 < ricky> mmcgrath: No complaints from me, just let me know when you do fas1.stg
20:38 * ricky can help out with doing that today if you want too
20:38 < mmcgrath> ricky: I was actually just going to do proxy and app
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20:38 < mmcgrath> I want to make sure it won't mess toshio up.
20:39 < ricky> Ah, OK
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20:39 < mmcgrath> lmacken: once that's done you can start getting your community/puppet tests out. I'll help out with puppet stuff wherever I can.
20:39 < mmcgrath> modules modules modules :)
20:39 < lmacken> mmcgrath: great
20:40 < mmcgrath> lmacken: I'll dedicate some time to doing metrics and testing as well. Try to see if there's any low hanging fruit to poke at.
20:40 < mmcgrath> or it might all just work fine, never know :)
20:40 < mmcgrath> lmacken: and I'm positive you told me this already, but this is all mod_wsgi'd ready right?
20:40 < lmacken> that would be great :)
20:40 < lmacken> mmcgrath: of course
20:40 < mmcgrath> solid, ok.
20:40 * abadger1999 reads up
20:40 < mmcgrath> So anyone have any other questions on Fedora Community?
20:40 < mmcgrath> abadger1999: just wanted to know if you were using the staging environment for anything
20:41 < abadger1999> I'm working out pkgdb-0.4 bugs there.
20:41 < mmcgrath> abadger1999: do you know when you'll be done? I'd like to rebuild it
20:41 < mmcgrath> lmacken: also what namespace is this going under again? admin.fp.o/community/ ?
20:42 < lmacken> mmcgrath: yep
20:42 < mmcgrath> K
20:43 < mmcgrath> So anyone have anything else they'd like to discuss?
20:43 < SmootherFrOgZ> yup, lmacken any news about epel support into bodhi ?
20:43 < lmacken> SmootherFrOgZ: that's not something that is on my plate at the moment... dgilmore may know more about the status of that
20:44 < abadger1999> mmcgrath: Hmm... how long will a rebuild take?
20:44 < abadger1999> And when do you want to do it?
20:44 < SmootherFrOgZ> dgilmore: any thought, need help ?
20:45 -!- sdziallas [n=sebastia@fedora/sdziallas] has quit "Ex-Chat"
20:45 < abadger1999> I could just tar up the pkgdb there, you can rebuild, and then make sure everything's checked in at leisure.
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20:45 < mmcgrath> abadger1999: a day or two, it can wait though.
20:45 < dgilmore> SmootherFrOgZ: ive started
20:45 < dgilmore> i need to finish it
20:45 < mmcgrath> abadger1999: k, I'll just make sure to coordinate with you
20:46 < dgilmore> SmootherFrOgZ: lets get together after the meeting
20:46 < SmootherFrOgZ> dgilmore: k
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20:46 < mmcgrath> Ok, so anyone have anything else for the meeting?
20:46 < abadger1999> mmcgrath: k. Up to you. I can do it anytime.
20:46 < mmcgrath> abadger1999: solid
20:46 < mmcgrath> If not we'll close the meeting in 30
20:47 < mmcgrath> Jorn23: ggruener: either of you want to talk about the nagios -> zabbix migration?
20:47 -!- mcepl [n=mcepl(a)49-117-207-85.strcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has joined #fedora-meeting
20:47 * mmcgrath will assume they're presently away
20:48 < Jorn23> mmcgrath: I think we are pretty close on finalising it
20:48 < mmcgrath> oh, there you are.
20:48 < mmcgrath> Jorn23: excellent, whats left?
20:49 -!- lfoppiano [n=lfoppian@fedora/lfoppiano] has joined #fedora-meeting
20:49 < Jorn23> mmcgrath: We have the koji checks left to do, and the transifex. We have to look into how the current NRPE setup is for the Koji checks. Also there's a custom script in nagios called check_koji
20:49 < ggruener> mmcgrath: i add in the next few days the last tests to check the partitions
20:49 < mmcgrath> Sounds good guys, anything else?
20:49 < mmcgrath> Alrighty, so we will close the meeting in 20 (cheating this time) :)
20:49 < Jorn23> I think we may need your help with the scripts running on the boxes - I am not sure if Gregor has shell access
20:50 -!- comraderaikov|aw is now known as comraderaikov
20:50 < mmcgrath> Jorn23: sure thing, we can get you access to what you need.
20:50 < mmcgrath> 10
20:50 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- Meeting End
(I screwed up and did this w/o asking first; I expect thugs^Wenforcers
from the Chicago area to arrive momentarily; fortunately, steaks are
on the grill and hopefully they can be appeased. I can easily put the
content back if need be.)
I want to move the videos (ogg and avi files) currently hosted only
on torrent.fp.o, to alt.fp.o/pub/alt/videos/ with the other videos. I
have already copied the content over.
This request will remove the torrents, their contents, and their .ini
files on torrent1. Then, the normal processes will refresh the
torrent.fp.o web page and the tracker.
There are currently 0 or 1 seed, and 0 downloaders, for this content,
which dates back to January 2008 at the most recent.
Technology Strategist, Dell Office of the CTO
linux.dell.com & www.dell.com/linux
I was looking at some of the requested enhancements and I ran into
ticket #208 (https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/208)
regarding a KB for Fedora.
I've been looking around for alternatives and I ran into phpMyFAQ
(www.phpmyfaq.de/). I installed it on a VM I had and it appears to
have similar features offered by the RH KBase.
I would like to be able to demo this and get some feedback if this
could be used for Fedora. I'd also like to hear any alternatives or
any comments if anyone's used phpMyFAQ.
Can anyone tell me after registering FAS and account creation what exactly
should be done to start working on project ??
I sent request to the sponsors. Should I wait for their reply ??
Bhavinkumar G Patel