Freeze reminder

[Mike McGrath]

Just a reminder the final "full freeze" starts on November 11th.  That
means we've got a week to get any changes we want in and ready.

	-Mike

[Gregory Hosler]

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Mike McGrath wrote:
>  Just a reminder the final "full freeze" starts on November
> 11th.  That
>  means we've got a week to get any changes we want in and ready. 
I thought that we're already "frozen" ?
(aside from critical/stopper fixes which are filed as per

    https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ReleaseEngineering/FinalFreezePolicy

yes?


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[Toshio Kuratomi]

Gregory Hosler wrote:
>  Mike McGrath wrote:
> > Just a reminder the final "full freeze" starts on November 11th.  That
> > means we've got a week to get any changes we want in and ready.
>  
>  I thought that we're already "frozen" ?
>  (aside from critical/stopper fixes which are filed as per
>  
>      https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ReleaseEngineering/FinalFreezePolicy
>  
>  yes?
>   
Different freeze.  Mike's talking about the Infrastructure freeze.  (We
don't make changes to infrastructure near to release time so that we
don't destabilize building and delivering packages right around release.)

-Toshio

[Gregory Hosler]

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Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
>  Gregory Hosler wrote:
> > Mike McGrath wrote:
> >> Just a reminder the final "full freeze" starts on November 11th.  That
> >> means we've got a week to get any changes we want in and ready.
> > I thought that we're already "frozen" ?
> > (aside from critical/stopper fixes which are filed as per
> >
> >     https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ReleaseEngineering/FinalFreezePolicy
> >
> > yes?
> >
>  Different freeze.  Mike's talking about the Infrastructure freeze.  (We
>  don't make changes to infrastructure near to release time so that we
>  don't destabilize building and delivering packages right around release.) 
So, can packages (already in F10) be updated ?

I tried to do a "make build" in my package "devel" branch last night,
and I got
the following error message:

	koji: error: Destination tag dist-f10 is locked


I took this to mean that packages cannot be updated until after the release ?

- -Greg

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[Jesse Keating]

On Fri, 2008-11-07 at 11:24 +0800, Gregory Hosler wrote:
>  I tried to do a "make build" in my package
> "devel" branch last night, and I got
>  the following error message:
>  
>          koji: error: Destination tag dist-f10 is locked
>  
>  
>  I took this to mean that packages cannot be updated until after the release ? 
Do a cvs up -d from your module/ directory so that it updates your
common/ folder.  It'll set up your build target correctly.

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[Gregory Hosler]

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Jesse Keating wrote:
>  On Fri, 2008-11-07 at 11:24 +0800, Gregory Hosler wrote:
> > I tried to do a "make build" in my package "devel" branch last
> night, and I got
> > the following error message:
> >
> >         koji: error: Destination tag dist-f10 is locked
> >
> >
> > I took this to mean that packages cannot be updated until after the release ?
>  
>  Do a cvs up -d from your module/ directory so that it updates your
>  common/ folder.  It'll set up your build target correctly.
>   
ah ha.

Will building in the newly created F-10 directory become a "0 day" update ?

Thank you, and all the best,

- -Greg

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[Jon Stanley]

On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 11:02 PM, Gregory Hosler <ghosler(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote:

>  Will building in the newly created F-10 directory become a "0
> day" update ? 
Not automatically, you still have to submit the update via bodhi (make
update). However, CVS is down right at the moment for the F-10 mass
branching :)

[Jesse Keating]

On Fri, 2008-11-07 at 12:02 +0800, Gregory Hosler wrote:
>  Will building in the newly created F-10 directory become a "0
> day"
>  update ? 
If you use bodhi and request it as an update, yes.

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[Ricky Zhou]

On 2008-11-07 10:35:35 AM, Gregory Hosler wrote:
>  Mike McGrath wrote:
>  > Just a reminder the final "full freeze" starts on November 11th.  That
>  > means we've got a week to get any changes we want in and ready.
>  
>  I thought that we're already "frozen" ?
>  (aside from critical/stopper fixes which are filed as per 
I think that freeze is
for packages - Mike was referring to the
infrastructure freeze (changes to our systems).

Thanks,
Ricky

[Anand Capur]

>  Mike McGrath wrote: 
>  > > Just a reminder the final "full freeze" starts on
> November 11th.  That
>  > > means we've got a week to get any changes we want in and ready.
>  >
>  > I thought that we're already "frozen" ?
>  > (aside from critical/stopper fixes which are filed as per
>  I think that freeze is for packages - Mike was referring to the
>  infrastructure freeze (changes to our systems).
>
>  Thanks,
>  Ricky 
Yep, as per the link Mike posted (
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ReleaseEngineering/FinalFreezePolicy), it
says "no new builds are allowed for packages already in the Fedora
collection" which is a package freeze :D
-Anand

[Gregory Hosler]

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Anand Capur wrote:
> > Mike McGrath wrote:
>  
> >>> Just a reminder the final "full freeze" starts on November 11th. 
> That
> >>> means we've got a week to get any changes we want in and ready.
> >> I thought that we're already "frozen" ?
> >> (aside from critical/stopper fixes which are filed as per
> > I think that freeze is for packages - Mike was referring to the
> > infrastructure freeze (changes to our systems).
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Ricky
>  
>  Yep, as per the link Mike posted (
>  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ReleaseEngineering/FinalFreezePolicy), it
>  says "no new builds are allowed for packages already in the Fedora
>  collection" which is a package freeze :D 
ah. ok. now I understand.

Thank you, all, for the clarification. (and sorry for the confusion).

Might I know, please, how do we prepare a "0 day" update ? (an update that is
ready on the day of the release, but not part of the release).

Thank you, and all the best,

- -Greg

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