Is there anything out there (published) on how the servers are configured? Is it just up to whomever is configuring it at the time? The reason why I'm asking is that I'd like to set up a small test environment and I would like it to be compliant with any standards or recommendations for the Fedora Project.
If there is a standard, should it be published to the Wiki?
Tim
On 10/27/06, Tim Robichaux tim@robichaux.net wrote:
Is there anything out there (published) on how the servers are configured? Is it just up to whomever is configuring it at the time? The reason why I'm asking is that I'd like to set up a small test environment and I would like it to be compliant with any standards or recommendations for the Fedora Project.
If there is a standard, should it be published to the Wiki?
Tim
We've discussed some of these things in the past a couple of times. Right now there is a http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/InfrastructurePrivate section on the wiki that discusses some of these items. Is it security through obscurity? yes? Will that change in the future? Maybe, but that's the way it is right now.
What type of Test environment were you interested in setting up?
-Mike
What I want to do is get a couple of servers set up and start to examine the mirror and CVS setups. I have almost no experience with any kind of VCS and I know that this is a big priority for FC7. I'd love to try sticking my nose in a bunch of other aspects like clustering, load balancing and LDAP, but I need to start with a manageable chunk.
It seems to me that all of the options that have been looked at for future VCS are missing features that seem like good ideas and I want to look and see if I can come up with any novel ideas. Even if I can't I can at least follow along with what everyone else is doing and not look _too_ lost.
Tim ________________________________________ From: imlinux@gmail.com On Behalf Of Mike McGrath Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 2:13 PM To: Tim Robichaux Cc: Fedora Infrastructure Subject: Re: Server Config Standards
On 10/27/06, Tim Robichaux tim@robichaux.net wrote:
Is there anything out there (published) on how the servers are configured? Is it just up to whomever is configuring it at the time? The reason why I'm asking is that I'd like to set up a small test environment and I would like it to be compliant with any standards or recommendations for the Fedora Project.
If there is a standard, should it be published to the Wiki?
Tim
We've discussed some of these things in the past a couple of times. Right now there is a http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/InfrastructurePrivate section on the wiki that discusses some of these items. Is it security through obscurity? yes? Will that change in the future? Maybe, but that's the way it is right now.
What type of Test environment were you interested in setting up?
-Mike
On 10/27/06, Tim Robichaux tim@robichaux.net wrote:
What I want to do is get a couple of servers set up and start to examine the mirror and CVS setups. I have almost no experience with any kind of VCS and I know that this is a big priority for FC7. I'd love to try sticking my nose in a bunch of other aspects like clustering, load balancing and LDAP, but I need to start with a manageable chunk.
It seems to me that all of the options that have been looked at for future VCS are missing features that seem like good ideas and I want to look and see if I can come up with any novel ideas. Even if I can't I can at least follow along with what everyone else is doing and not look _too_ lost.
If you find any documentation on our CVS box let me know ;-) Right now your best bet is to examine the viewcvs to see how they're layed out. As far as our mirrors go they should be exact copies of our primary mirror. (if there not let us know)
-Mike
What I want to do is get a couple of servers set up and start to examine the mirror and CVS setups. I have almost no experience with any kind of VCS and I know that this is a big priority for FC7. I'd love to try sticking my nose in a bunch of other aspects like clustering, load balancing and LDAP, but I need to start with a manageable chunk.
It seems to me that all of the options that have been looked at for future VCS are missing features that seem like good ideas and I want to look and see if I can come up with any novel ideas. Even if I can't I can at least follow along with what everyone else is doing and not look _too_ lost.
Tim
I too am mostly lost (probably the same goest with the newcomers) with the discussion going in this list. Only recently that I managed to "crack" what fp.o means :-)
Maybe that's why no one is volunteering (yet) because they're still trying to get over the initial shock?
Somebody, or some docs ought to be up there after the "getting started" link. Some sort of a welcome kit. Contact the project leads? I did that already (on two occasions a couple of weeks back) and no one has replied.
My 2cents.
On 10/28/06, Rino Mardo rino.mardo@gmail.com wrote:
I too am mostly lost (probably the same goest with the newcomers) with the discussion going in this list. Only recently that I managed to "crack" what fp.o means :-)
Maybe that's why no one is volunteering (yet) because they're still trying to get over the initial shock?
Somebody, or some docs ought to be up there after the "getting started" link. Some sort of a welcome kit. Contact the project leads? I did that already (on two occasions a couple of weeks back) and no one has replied.
My 2cents.
Anything you think would help is welcome. The biggest thing is to just stick around and get involved. The best way to learn is to sign up with someone and get started :D
-MIke
Anything you think would help is welcome. The biggest thing is to just stick around and get involved. The best way to learn is to sign up with someone and get started :D
-MIke
I'm sticking, I'm sticking. :-)
Ok, let's make it clear. I'm signing up to maintain Duke fp.o (or what name it's called) as previously discussed. Also, as I learn I wanna put up a "After signing here's what you should do next..." link from the fp.o/infra site. Please lock that for me.
-- rmm
On 10/28/06, Rino Mardo rino.mardo@gmail.com wrote:
Anything you think would help is welcome. The biggest thing is to just stick around and get involved. The best way to learn is to sign up with someone and get started :D
-MIkeI'm sticking, I'm sticking. :-)
Ok, let's make it clear. I'm signing up to maintain Duke fp.o (or what name it's called) as previously discussed. Also, as I learn I wanna put up a "After signing here's what you should do next..." link from the fp.o/infra site. Please lock that for me.
Thats where the infrastructure team gets tricky. At present there's no need for extra people on the fp.o site. And, unfortunately, we can't just hand over the keys to whoever asks for them for obvious reasons. Was there something on the schedules page or any one of the many tickets in otrs or bugzillla you were interested in working on? I still haven't had anyone volunteer for the mirrors project.
-Mike
On 10/28/06, Mike McGrath mmcgrath@fedoraproject.org wrote:
On 10/28/06, Rino Mardo rino.mardo@gmail.com wrote:
Anything you think would help is welcome. The biggest thing is to just stick around and get involved. The best way to learn is to sign up with someone and get started :D
-MIkeI'm sticking, I'm sticking. :-)
Ok, let's make it clear. I'm signing up to maintain Duke fp.o (or what name it's called) as previously discussed. Also, as I learn I wanna put up a "After signing here's what you should do next..." link from the fp.o/infra site. Please lock that for me.
Thats where the infrastructure team gets tricky. At present there's no need for extra people on the fp.o site. And, unfortunately, we can't just hand over the keys to whoever asks for them for obvious reasons. Was there something on the schedules page or any one of the many tickets in otrs or bugzillla you were interested in working on? I still haven't had anyone volunteer for the mirrors project.
I've added the relevant OTRS and Bugzilla links to the getting started page on the wiki.
-Mike
On Oct 28, 2006, at 8:48, Mike McGrath wrote:
I still haven't had anyone volunteer for the mirrors project.
I'd help except for the python requirement. :-)
- ask
On 10/28/06, Ask Bjørn Hansen ask@develooper.com wrote:
On Oct 28, 2006, at 8:48, Mike McGrath wrote:
I still haven't had anyone volunteer for the mirrors project.
I'd help except for the python requirement. :-)
- ask
You can always help test once its ready ;-)
-Mike
On Oct 28, 2006, at 8:48, Mike McGrath wrote:
I still haven't had anyone volunteer for the mirrors project.
I'd help except for the python requirement. :-)
- ask
You can always help test once its ready ;-)
-Mike
What about the mirror project? I'm all ears and hands on helping the project. I've got time. How does one maintain it? There's a local university here who have the fp.o directories but it's empty.
On 10/29/06, Rino Mardo rino.mardo@gmail.com wrote:
What about the mirror project? I'm all ears and hands on helping the project. I've got time. How does one maintain it? There's a local university here who have the fp.o directories but it's empty.
(From an earlier post) now that the return-mirrors script reads from a database this should get easier and easier. We'll need an experienced python programmer to work on what we have. I'll maintain the current branch but we need an overall solution for this. Who out there can help? We need:
1) A way for people to add their own mirrors and maintain them 2) a web interface to add/delete mirrors from the current system 3) a more efficient way of checking the mirrors 4) possible move the configs into the database itself?
Anyone out there that's interested, respond to the list and add yourself to the infrastructure schedule.
-MIke
(From an earlier post) now that the return-mirrors script reads from a database this should get easier and easier. We'll need an experienced python programmer to work on what we have. I'll maintain the current branch but we need an overall solution for this. Who out there can help? We need:
- A way for people to add their own mirrors and maintain them
- a web interface to add/delete mirrors from the current system
- a more efficient way of checking the mirrors
- possible move the configs into the database itself?
Anyone out there that's interested, respond to the list and add yourself to the infrastructure schedule.
-MIke
I'm interested. Is there a way I can see how "current system" works?
-- Farshad Khoshkhui
On 10/29/06, Farshad Khoshkhui farshadkh@gmail.com wrote:
(From an earlier post) now that the return-mirrors script reads from a database this should get easier and easier. We'll need an experienced python programmer to work on what we have. I'll maintain the current branch but we need an overall solution for this. Who out there can help? We need:
- A way for people to add their own mirrors and maintain them
- a web interface to add/delete mirrors from the current system
- a more efficient way of checking the mirrors
- possible move the configs into the database itself?
Anyone out there that's interested, respond to the list and add yourself to the infrastructure schedule.
-MIkeI'm interested. Is there a way I can see how "current system" works?
-- Farshad Khoshkhui
http://cvs.fedoraproject.org/viewcvs/check-mirrors/?root=fedora
-Mike
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