fedora.org?

[Anand Capur]

Is there any way we can get this domain back? Is Fedora a registered
trademark of ours? I think it would much be better on our site, instead of
yeah, you know what I mean. (See fedora.org)
-Anand

[Dennis Gilmore]

On Sunday 03 February 2008, Anand Capur wrote:
>  Is there any way we can get this domain back? Is Fedora a registered
>  trademark of ours? I think it would much be better on our site, instead of
>  yeah, you know what I mean. (See fedora.org)
>  -Anand 
We have never had fedora.org  It was taken when fedora project was started 

Dennis

[Matthew Galgoci]

>  Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 17:05:23 -0500
>  From: Anand Capur <admin(a)arcnetworks.biz&gt;
>  Reply-To: fedora-infrastructure-list(a)redhat.com
>  To: fedora-infrastructure-list(a)redhat.com
>  Subject: fedora.org?
>
>  Is there any way we can get this domain back? Is Fedora a registered
>  trademark of ours? I think it would much be better on our site, instead of
>  yeah, you know what I mean. (See fedora.org) 
We never "had" that domain, so there is no "getting it back".

-- 
Matthew Galgoci
Network Operations
Red Hat, Inc
919.754.3700 x44155

[Anand Capur]

On 2/3/08, Matthew Galgoci <mgalgoci(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote:
>  > Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 17:05:23 -0500
>  > From: Anand Capur <admin(a)arcnetworks.biz&gt;
>  > Reply-To: fedora-infrastructure-list(a)redhat.com
>  > To: fedora-infrastructure-list(a)redhat.com
>  > Subject: fedora.org?
>  >
>  > Is there any way we can get this domain back? Is Fedora a registered
>  > trademark of ours? I think it would much be better on our site, instead
>  of
>  > yeah, you know what I mean. (See fedora.org)
>
>  We never "had" that domain, so there is no "getting it back".
>
>  --
>  Matthew Galgoci
>  Network Operations
>  Red Hat, Inc
>  919.754.3700 x44155 

Well, can't you do trademark claims with ICANN? I didn't literally mean "Get
it back" since yeah, we never had it.

[Mike McGrath]

On Sun, 3 Feb 2008, Anand Capur wrote:

>  On 2/3/08, Matthew Galgoci <mgalgoci(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote:
>  >
>  > > Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 17:05:23 -0500
>  > > From: Anand Capur <admin(a)arcnetworks.biz&gt;
>  > > Reply-To: fedora-infrastructure-list(a)redhat.com
>  > > To: fedora-infrastructure-list(a)redhat.com
>  > > Subject: fedora.org?
>  > >
>  > > Is there any way we can get this domain back? Is Fedora a registered
>  > > trademark of ours? I think it would much be better on our site, instead
>  > of
>  > > yeah, you know what I mean. (See fedora.org)
>  >
>  > We never "had" that domain, so there is no "getting it back".
>  >
>
>  Well, can't you do trademark claims with ICANN? I didn't literally mean
> "Get
>  it back" since yeah, we never had it.
>  
Nope, but without the "project" in fedora project, they could use it
against us.  I believe they existed before we did.

	-Mike

[Anand Capur]

On 2/3/08, Mike McGrath <mmcgrath(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote:
>  On Sun, 3 Feb 2008, Anand Capur wrote:
>
>  > On 2/3/08, Matthew Galgoci <mgalgoci(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote:
>  > >
>  > > > Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 17:05:23 -0500
>  > > > From: Anand Capur <admin(a)arcnetworks.biz&gt;
>  > > > Reply-To: fedora-infrastructure-list(a)redhat.com
>  > > > To: fedora-infrastructure-list(a)redhat.com
>  > > > Subject: fedora.org?
>  > > >
>  > > > Is there any way we can get this domain back? Is Fedora a registered
>  > > > trademark of ours? I think it would much be better on our site,
>  instead
>  > > of
>  > > > yeah, you know what I mean. (See fedora.org)
>  > >
>  > > We never "had" that domain, so there is no "getting it
> back".
>  > >
>  >
>  > Well, can't you do trademark claims with ICANN? I didn't literally mean
>  "Get
>  > it back" since yeah, we never had it.
>  >
>
>  Nope, but without the "project" in fedora project, they could use it
>  against us.  I believe they existed before we did.
>
>          -Mike 

Even though we use "Fedora" as our OS name now?......We can't even get them
for using it against the TLD terms since .org's uses are Nonprofits;
personal sites; open-source projects;

[Yaakov Nemoy]

2008/2/3 Anand Capur <admin(a)arcnetworks.biz&gt;:
>  On 2/3/08, Mike McGrath <mmcgrath(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote:
>
>  > On Sun, 3 Feb 2008, Anand Capur wrote:
>  >
>  > > On 2/3/08, Matthew Galgoci <mgalgoci(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote:
>  > > >
>  > > > > Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 17:05:23 -0500
>  > > > > From: Anand Capur <admin(a)arcnetworks.biz&gt;
>  > > > > Reply-To: fedora-infrastructure-list(a)redhat.com
>  > > > > To: fedora-infrastructure-list(a)redhat.com
>  > > > > Subject: fedora.org?
>  > > > >
>  > > > > Is there any way we can get this domain back? Is Fedora a registered
>  > > > > trademark of ours? I think it would much be better on our site,
>  instead
>  > > > of
>  > > > > yeah, you know what I mean. (See fedora.org)
>  > > >
>  > > > We never "had" that domain, so there is no "getting it
> back".
>  > > >
>  > >
>  > > Well, can't you do trademark claims with ICANN? I didn't literally
> mean
>  "Get
>  > > it back" since yeah, we never had it.
>  > >
>  >
>  > Nope, but without the "project" in fedora project, they could use it
>  > against us.  I believe they existed before we did.
>  >
>  >         -Mike
>
>  Even though we use "Fedora" as our OS name now?......We can't even get
> them
>  for using it against the TLD terms since .org's uses are Nonprofits;
>  personal sites; open-source projects; 
Ugh, not this question again.  ICANN removed that restriction on
TLD's, so anyone can have a .com, org or a .net with impunity.  The
only restrictions are on .edu, .gov, and .XX where XX is your nation
code, plus other less oft used TLDs.

IANAL, but Fedora by itself is not a trademark.  Fedora doesn't even
have a perfect hold on the Fedora Project moniker either.  Google it
and you'll see what I mean.

Bottom line: Who cares.  Things like this are the hazards of having an
open and free internet.  Now quit clogging my tubes with this ;)

-Yaakov