Move to mailman3

[Pierre-Yves Chibon]

Good morning everyone,

As you may know, mailman3 has been released and with it the new archiver
bridging mailing lists and forums: HyperKitty.

Some of the automated mailing list have been already migrated to mailman3,
but we still need to migrate 'live' mailing list (ie: having user actually
discussing, not just bot sending emails).
There has been thoughts to use the infrastructure list as a potential first list
to migrate.


Thoughts on this?

Pierre



To give you an idea: HyperKitty for scm-commits:
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/[e-mail]...

[Patrick Uiterwijk]

I'd say that sounds good, we're probably a team of people that will understand
any resulting issues and can file them to the responsible people.

With kind regards,
Patrick Uiterwijk
Fedora Infra

----- Original Message -----
>  Good morning everyone,
>  
>  As you may know, mailman3 has been released and with it the new archiver
>  bridging mailing lists and forums: HyperKitty.
>  
>  Some of the automated mailing list have been already migrated to mailman3,
>  but we still need to migrate 'live' mailing list (ie: having user actually
>  discussing, not just bot sending emails).
>  There has been thoughts to use the infrastructure list as a potential first
>  list
>  to migrate.
>  
>  
>  Thoughts on this?
>  
>  Pierre
>  
>  
>  
>  To give you an idea: HyperKitty for scm-commits:
>  https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/[e-mail]...
>  
>  _______________________________________________
>  infrastructure mailing list
>  infrastructure(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
>  https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/infrastructure

[Christopher Meng]

Any chances for test list?

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Christopher Meng

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[Pierre-Yves Chibon]

On Wed, Aug 05, 2015 at 05:46:26AM -0400, Christopher Meng wrote:
>     Any chances for test list?A  
At the end, everything will be migrated, but we need to start somewhere :)


Pierre

[Christopher Meng]

On 8/5/15, Pierre-Yves Chibon <pingou(a)pingoured.fr&gt; wrote:
>  On Wed, Aug 05, 2015 at 05:46:26AM -0400, Christopher Meng wrote:
> >    Any chances for test list?A
>
>  At the end, everything will be migrated, but we need to start somewhere :) 

Kk, subscribed to infra already. ;)

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Yours sincerely,
Christopher Meng

http://awk.io

[Xavier Lamien]

On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 10:45 AM Pierre-Yves Chibon <pingou(a)pingoured.fr&gt;
wrote:

>  Good morning everyone,
>
>  As you may know, mailman3 has been released and with it the new archiver
>  bridging mailing lists and forums: HyperKitty.
>
>  Some of the automated mailing list have been already migrated to mailman3,
>  but we still need to migrate 'live' mailing list (ie: having user actually
>  discussing, not just bot sending emails).
>  There has been thoughts to use the infrastructure list as a potential
>  first list
>  to migrate.
>
>
>  Thoughts on this?
>  
+1

[Paul W. Frields]

On Wed, Aug 05, 2015 at 10:45:21AM +0200, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote:
>  Good morning everyone,
>  
>  As you may know, mailman3 has been released and with it the new archiver
>  bridging mailing lists and forums: HyperKitty.
>  
>  Some of the automated mailing list have been already migrated to mailman3,
>  but we still need to migrate 'live' mailing list (ie: having user actually
>  discussing, not just bot sending emails).
>  There has been thoughts to use the infrastructure list as a potential first list
>  to migrate.
>  
>  Thoughts on this? 
+1 for same reasons already stated by Patrick and others.

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[Kevin Fenzi]

On Wed, 5 Aug 2015 10:45:21 +0200
Pierre-Yves Chibon <pingou(a)pingoured.fr&gt; wrote:

>  Good morning everyone,
>  
>  As you may know, mailman3 has been released and with it the new
>  archiver bridging mailing lists and forums: HyperKitty.
>  
>  Some of the automated mailing list have been already migrated to
>  mailman3, but we still need to migrate 'live' mailing list (ie:
>  having user actually discussing, not just bot sending emails).
>  There has been thoughts to use the infrastructure list as a potential
>  first list to migrate.
>  
>  
>  Thoughts on this? 
I'm fine with the idea. 

The only possible issue would be that we use this list for freeze break
requests, but we have a small team that also really talks a lot on IRC,
so if the list wasn't working I'm sure people could still get reviews,
acks... 

so +1 from me. 

kevin

[Stephen John Smoogen]

On 5 August 2015 at 12:35, Kevin Fenzi <kevin(a)scrye.com&gt; wrote:
>  On Wed, 5 Aug 2015 10:45:21 +0200
>  Pierre-Yves Chibon <pingou(a)pingoured.fr&gt; wrote:
>
> > Good morning everyone,
> >
> > As you may know, mailman3 has been released and with it the new
> > archiver bridging mailing lists and forums: HyperKitty.
> >
> > Some of the automated mailing list have been already migrated to
> > mailman3, but we still need to migrate 'live' mailing list (ie:
> > having user actually discussing, not just bot sending emails).
> > There has been thoughts to use the infrastructure list as a potential
> > first list to migrate.
> >
> >
> > Thoughts on this?
>
>  I'm fine with the idea.
>
>  The only possible issue would be that we use this list for freeze break
>  requests, but we have a small team that also really talks a lot on IRC,
>  so if the list wasn't working I'm sure people could still get reviews,
>  acks...
>
>  so +1 from me.
>  
I would say that we have a SOP that if the list is down we use IRC and
sysadmin-main(a)fedoraproject.org to get emergency review and then a
published post-facto review on list.

>  kevin
>
>  _______________________________________________
>  infrastructure mailing list
>  infrastructure(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
>  https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/infrastructure 


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[Aurelien Bompard]

OK people, thanks for your enthusiasm, I'll migrate infra in the next hours :-)
I'll be online this weekend to fix things if they break, and there's
an easy way to rollback if it's unfixable.

The only distrubing thing that I've seen is mail delivery being
stopped sometimes when an ansible playbook is run on the servers (but
not always of course, that would be too easy). But no mail is lost, a
simple restart of mailman gets it rolling again.

I'll send an email in this thread when the migration is done.

Aurélien

[Pierre-Yves Chibon]

On Fri, Aug 07, 2015 at 06:16:32PM +0200, Aurelien Bompard wrote:
>  OK people, thanks for your enthusiasm, I'll migrate infra in the
> next hours :-)
>  I'll be online this weekend to fix things if they break, and there's
>  an easy way to rollback if it's unfixable.
>  
>  The only distrubing thing that I've seen is mail delivery being
>  stopped sometimes when an ansible playbook is run on the servers (but
>  not always of course, that would be too easy). But no mail is lost, a
>  simple restart of mailman gets it rolling again.
>  
>  I'll send an email in this thread when the migration is done. 
Might be an idea to send one when you start the migration as well :]
Just that we are not surprised or that we watch if one of our email doesn't land
on the list.


Pierre

[Aurelien Bompard]

>  Might be an idea to send one when you start the migration as well :]
>  Just that we are not surprised or that we watch if one of our email doesn't land
>  on the list. 
Yeah, that would have been a good idea, but it's too late: your
message was processed by Mailman3 already ;-)
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/infrastructure%40lists.fedo...

I'm currently checking for bugs & regressions, feel free to ping me :-)

Aurélien

[Pierre-Yves Chibon]

On Fri, Aug 07, 2015 at 07:37:22PM +0200, Aurelien Bompard wrote:
>  > Might be an idea to send one when you start the migration as
> well :]
>  > Just that we are not surprised or that we watch if one of our email doesn't
> land
>  > on the list.
>  
>  Yeah, that would have been a good idea, but it's too late: your
>  message was processed by Mailman3 already ;-)
>
> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/infrastructure%40lists.fedo...
\ó/

[Pierre-Yves Chibon]

>  On Fri, Aug 07, 2015 at 07:37:22PM +0200, Aurelien Bompard wrote:
Oh a bug ^, I replied to my email the header attributes it to you

>  \ó/ 
And via HK? :)

[Pierre-Yves Chibon]

>  On Fri, Aug 07, 2015 at 07:37:22PM +0200, Aurelien Bompard wrote:
Oh a bug ^, I replied to my email the header attributes it to you

>  \ó/ 
And via HK? :)

[Ralph Bean]

Awesome!  ◡̈*✧

[Pierre-Yves Chibon]

>  On Fri, Aug 07, 2015 at 07:37:22PM +0200, Aurelien Bompard wrote:
Oh a bug ^, I replied to my email the header attributes it to you

>  \ó/ 
And via HK? :)

[Michael Cronenworth]

On 08/07/2015 12:37 PM, Aurelien Bompard wrote:
> > Might be an idea to send one when you start the migration as well
> :]
> > Just that we are not surprised or that we watch if one of our email doesn't land
> > on the list.
>
>  Yeah, that would have been a good idea, but it's too late: your
>  message was processed by Mailman3 already ;-)
>
> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/infrastructure%40lists.fedo...
>
>  I'm currently checking for bugs & regressions, feel free to ping me :-)
>
>  Aurélien
>  

Did you use an old subscription list? I have not been subscribed to @infra for about 
a month and today I start receiving these from you guys.

Performing the unsubscribe process again does not send me a confirmation e-mail.

[Aurelien Bompard]

>  Did you use an old subscription list? I have not been subscribed to
> @infra
>  for about a month and today I start receiving these from you guys. 
Ah, yes, sorry, I did get an updated subscription list but it only
added new entries.

>  Performing the unsubscribe process again does not send me a
> confirmation
>  e-mail. 
I'll check if it worked

[Aurelien Bompard]

>  Performing the unsubscribe process again does not send me a
> confirmation
>  e-mail. 
I looks like you're still subscribed, which unsubscribe process did you follow?
Thanks and sorry for the inconvenience.

Aurélien

[Ralph Bean]

Ooh, can we switch from gravatar to libravatar?

diff --git a/roles/mailman/templates/settings.py.j2
b/roles/mailman/templates/settings.py.j2
index 237bbbc..93d0111 100644                                                             
 
--- a/roles/mailman/templates/settings.py.j2                                              
 
+++ b/roles/mailman/templates/settings.py.j2                                              
 
@@ -253,17 +253,17 @@ SOCIAL_AUTH_PIPELINE = (                                            
 
 # https://github.com/twaddington/django-gravatar                                         
 
 #                                                                                        
 
 # Gravatar base url.                                                                     
 
-#GRAVATAR_URL = 'http://cdn.libravatar.org/'                                     
         
+GRAVATAR_URL = 'http://cdn.libravatar.org/'                                      
         
 # Gravatar base secure https url.                                                        
 
-#GRAVATAR_SECURE_URL = 'https://seccdn.libravatar.org/'                          
         
+GRAVATAR_SECURE_URL = 'https://seccdn.libravatar.org/'                           
         
 # Gravatar size in pixels.                                                               
 
 #GRAVATAR_DEFAULT_SIZE = '80'                                                    
         
 # An image url or one of the following: 'mm', 'identicon',
'monsterid', 'wavatar', 'retro'.
-#GRAVATAR_DEFAULT_IMAGE = 'mm'                                                   
         
+GRAVATAR_DEFAULT_IMAGE = 'retro'                                                 
         
 # One of the following: 'g', 'pg', 'r', 'x'.             
                                 
 #GRAVATAR_DEFAULT_RATING = 'g'                                                   
         
 # True to use https by default, False for plain http.                                    
 
-#GRAVATAR_DEFAULT_SECURE = True                                                          
 
+GRAVATAR_DEFAULT_SECURE = True                                                           
 
                                                                                          
 
 #                                                                                        
 
 # django-compressor

[Aurelien Bompard]

>  Ooh, can we switch from gravatar to libravatar? 
Will do, thanks :-)

A.

[Ankur Sinha]

>  Will do, thanks :-)
>  
>  A. 
This is so cool!

Can I request migrating the fedora-join mailing list next? It'll make it so much
easier for newbies to use it. :D

Thanks,
Ankur Sinha "FranciscoD"
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ankursinha

[Aurelien Bompard]

Hey guys, I'm currently demoingo Hyperkitty with this list !

Say Hi!

A.

[Máirín Duffy]

Hi everybody!

[Ralph Bean]

Great demo!

[Matthew Miller]

On Fri, Aug 07, 2015 at 06:16:32PM +0200, Aurelien Bompard wrote:
>  OK people, thanks for your enthusiasm, I'll migrate infra in the
> next hours :-)
>  I'll be online this weekend to fix things if they break, and there's
>  an easy way to rollback if it's unfixable. 
Wooh, and now my filters work on List-Post instead of X-Been-There :)


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<mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org&gt;
Fedora Project Leader