April status update for Fedora Infrastructure Apprentices

[Kevin Fenzi]

You are getting this email because you are in the 'fi-apprentice' group
in the fedora account system (or are reading this on the
infrastructure list).

Feel free to reply just directly to me, or cc the infrastructure list
for everyone to see and comment on.

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure_Apprentice

At the first of every month(or so), I am going to be sending out an
email like this one. I would like feedback on how things are going for
you.

I'd like to ask for everyone to send me a quick reply with the
following data or anything related you can think of that might help us
make the apprentice program more useful.

0. Whats your fedora account system login?

1. Have you logged in and used your fi-apprentice membership to look at
our machines/setup in the last month? Do you plan to?

2. Has it helped you decide any area you wish to focus on or contribute
to more?

3. Have you looked at or been able to work on any of the fi-apprentice
'easyfix' tickets?
https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/report/14

4. Do you still wish to be a member of the group? If not (for whatever
reason) could you provide any hints to help others down the road?

5. Is there any help or communication or ideas you have that would help
you do any of the above?

6. What do you find to be the hardest part of getting involved?
Finding things to work on? Getting attention from others to help you?
Finding tickets in your interest area?

7. Have you been able to make any weekly irc meetings? Do you find them
helpful or interesting?

8. Have you logged into our Gobby instance and read/seen/added to our
meeting agenda? https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Gobby

9. What was the last song you listened to? (Live or recorded)

Any other general feedback is also quite welcome, including
improvements to this email, the wiki page, etc.

Any folks I do not hear from in the next week will be removed from the
group. (Note that it's easy to be readded when you have time or
whatever and it's nothing at all personal, we just want to keep the
group up to date with active folks).

Thanks, and looking forward to your feedback!

kevin

[Bruno Miguel Queiros]

Answers inline

On 01-04-2016 15:49, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> You are getting this email because you are in the 'fi-apprentice' group
> in the fedora account system (or are reading this on the
> infrastructure list).
>
> Feel free to reply just directly to me, or cc the infrastructure list
> for everyone to see and comment on.
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure_Apprentice
>
> At the first of every month(or so), I am going to be sending out an
> email like this one. I would like feedback on how things are going for
> you.
>
> I'd like to ask for everyone to send me a quick reply with the
> following data or anything related you can think of that might help us
> make the apprentice program more useful.
> Whats your fedora account system login?

lnxslck
> Have you logged in and used your fi-apprentice membership to look at
>
> our machines/setup in the last month? Do you plan to?

yes
> Has it helped you decide any area you wish to focus on or contribute
>
> to more?

yes
> Have you looked at or been able to work on any of the fi-apprentice
>
> 'easyfix' tickets?
> https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/report/14

no
> Do you still wish to be a member of the group? If not (for whatever
>
> reason) could you provide any hints to help others down the road?

yes
> Is there any help or communication or ideas you have that would help
>
> you do any of the above?

no
> What do you find to be the hardest part of getting involved?
>
> Finding things to work on? Getting attention from others to help you?
> Finding tickets in your interest area?

Finding tickets to work on
> Have you been able to make any weekly irc meetings? Do you find them
>
> helpful or interesting?

yes
> Have you logged into our Gobby instance and read/seen/added to our
>
> meeting agenda? https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Gobby

no
> What was the last song you listened to? (Live or recorded)

The Strokes - You Only Live Once 
https://www.youtube.com/attribution_link?a=bguTr4nnnpc&u=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DpT68FS3YbQ4%26feature%3Dshare
> Any other general feedback is also quite welcome, including
> improvements to this email, the wiki page, etc.
>
> Any folks I do not hear from in the next week will be removed from the
> group. (Note that it's easy to be readded when you have time or
> whatever and it's nothing at all personal, we just want to keep the
> group up to date with active folks).
>
> Thanks, and looking forward to your feedback!
>
> kevin

[Corey Sheldon]

On 04/01/2016 11:03 AM, Bruno Miguel Queiros wrote:
> Answers inline > > On 01-04-2016 15:49, Kevin Fenzi wrote: >> You are getting this

email because you are in the 'fi-apprentice' group >> in the fedora
account system (or are reading this on the >> infrastructure list). >>
> > Feel free to reply just directly to me, or cc the infrastructure list
> > for everyone to see and comment on. >> >>

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure_Apprentice >> >> At the
first of every month(or so), I am going to be sending out an >> email
like this one. I would like feedback on how things are going for >> you.
> > > > I'd like to ask for everyone to send me a quick reply with the >>

following data or anything related you can think of that might help us
> > make the apprentice program more useful. >> >> 0. Whats your fedora

account system login? > lnxslck
corey84
> > > Have you logged in and used your fi-apprentice membership to look

at >> our machines/setup in the last month? Do you plan to? > yes

Yup
> > Has it helped you decide any area you wish to focus on or contribute >> to more? > yes

Still sysadmin and dev
> > Have you looked at or been able to work on any of the fi-apprentice >> 'easyfix' tickets? >>

https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/report/14 > no
look yes,  work on no :(
> > Do you still wish to be a member of the group? If not (for whatever >> reason) could you provide any hints to help others down the road? > yes

Yup
> > Is there any help or communication or ideas you have that would help >> you do any of the above? > no

Working on making sure  some of the low hanging fruit tickets  appear as
such and not  'omg  i can't  possibly  do that'
> > What do you find to be the hardest part of getting involved? >> Finding things to work on? Getting attention from others to help

you? >> Finding tickets in your interest area? > Finding tickets to work on
Time, being a grown up sucks :)
> > Have you been able to make any weekly irc meetings? Do you find them >> helpful or interesting? > yes

yes 2 of them
> > Have you logged into our Gobby instance and read/seen/added to our >> meeting agenda? https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Gobby > no

yes
> > What was the last song you listened to? (Live or recorded) > The Strokes - You Only Live Once

https://www.youtube.com/attribution_link?a=bguTr4nnnpc&u=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DpT68FS3YbQ4%26feature%3Dshare
Whatever was on spotify I shuffle it too much to remember.
> > Any other general feedback is also quite welcome, including >> improvements to this email, the wiki page, etc. >> >> Any folks I do

not hear from in the next week will be removed from the >> group. (Note
that it's easy to be readded when you have time or >> whatever and it's
nothing at all personal, we just want to keep the >> group up to date
with active folks). >> >> Thanks, and looking forward to your feedback!
> > > > kevin > > > > _______________________________________________ >

infrastructure mailing list > [e-mail] >
http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/[e-mail]...

[lousab]

Answers inline
> Whats your fedora account system login?

lousab
> Have you logged in and used your fi-apprentice membership to look at
>
> our machines/setup in the last month? Do you plan to?

Yes i tried but even following the instructions in 
https://infrastructure.fedoraproject.org/infra/docs/sshaccess.rst i had 
problems Permission denied (publickey). (logs attached)
> Has it helped you decide any area you wish to focus on or contribute
>
> to more?

Well, wathching at https://apps.fedoraproject.org/ i'd like being 
involved in infrastructure section
> Have you looked at or been able to work on any of the fi-apprentice
>
> 'easyfix' tickets?
> https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/report/14

yes
> Do you still wish to be a member of the group? If not (for whatever
>
> reason) could you provide any hints to help others down the road?

yes
> Is there any help or communication or ideas you have that would help
>
> you do any of the above?
> What do you find to be the hardest part of getting involved?
>
> Finding things to work on? Getting attention from others to help you?
> Finding tickets in your interest area?

Understanding how the structure works.
Having one "step by step how-to-document" for newbie.
> Have you been able to make any weekly irc meetings? Do you find them
>
> helpful or interesting?

yes. i've observed in this last month (march)
> Have you logged into our Gobby instance and read/seen/added to our
>
> meeting agenda? https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Gobby

yes i've started to read
> What was the last song you listened to? (Live or recorded)

AC/DC Highwat to hell (on Virgin Radio)
> Thanks, and looking forward to your feedback!
> kevin

Many thanks to you.

[Corey Sheldon]

On 04/01/2016 10:49 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> You are getting this email because you are in the 'fi-apprentice' group
> in the fedora account system (or are reading this on the
> infrastructure list).
>
> Feel free to reply just directly to me, or cc the infrastructure list
> for everyone to see and comment on.
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure_Apprentice
>
> At the first of every month(or so), I am going to be sending out an
> email like this one. I would like feedback on how things are going for
> you.
>
> I'd like to ask for everyone to send me a quick reply with the
> following data or anything related you can think of that might help us
> make the apprentice program more useful.
> Whats your fedora account system login?
> > corey84

1. Have you logged in and used your fi-apprentice membership to look at
our machines/setup in the last month? Do you plan to?
> > yes

2. Has it helped you decide any area you wish to focus on or contribute
to more?
> > still a sysadmin dude :)

3. Have you looked at or been able to work on any of the fi-apprentice
'easyfix' tickets?
https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/report/14
> > gsoc | RL has taken most of my time :(

4. Do you still wish to be a member of the group? If not (for whatever
reason) could you provide any hints to help others down the road?
> > yep

5. Is there any help or communication or ideas you have that would help
you do any of the above?
> > some of the easyfix  tickets don't seem so  (this has been mentioned before but maybe we still need to clean up the  writeups for some of thme to indicate such.

6. What do you find to be the hardest part of getting involved?
Finding things to work on? Getting attention from others to help you?
Finding tickets in your interest area?
> > time

7. Have you been able to make any weekly irc meetings? Do you find them
helpful or interesting?
> > yup at  least 2  last month

8. Have you logged into our Gobby instance and read/seen/added to our
meeting agenda? https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Gobby
> > mostly to check meeting topics and such not much on the  edit  side

9. What was the last song you listened to? (Live or recorded)
> > hm...  Live -- some local underground band, wasn't bad but they need work :) was a  Jovi cover

Any other general feedback is also quite welcome, including
improvements to this email, the wiki page, etc.

Wiki page  is  getting some pruning maybe next month have a hint or link
for broader  viewership ?
 Any folks I do not hear from in the next week will be removed from the
group. (Note that it's easy to be re-added when you have time or
whatever and it's nothing at all personal, we just want to keep the
group up to date with active folks).

Thanks, and looking forward to your feedback!

kevin

[David Shier]

Answers in line.

On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 10:49 AM, Kevin Fenzi  wrote:
> You are getting this email because you are in the 'fi-apprentice' group
> in the fedora account system (or are reading this on the
> infrastructure list).
>
> Feel free to reply just directly to me, or cc the infrastructure list
> for everyone to see and comment on.
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure_Apprentice
>
> At the first of every month(or so), I am going to be sending out an
> email like this one. I would like feedback on how things are going for
> you.
>
> I'd like to ask for everyone to send me a quick reply with the
> following data or anything related you can think of that might help us
> make the apprentice program more useful.
> Whats your fedora account system login?

odin2016
> Have you logged in and used your fi-apprentice membership to look at
>
> our machines/setup in the last month? Do you plan to?
>
> I've attempted to and found out the ones that I wanted to look around

where higher security that i have access to. Mostly around SOP work I doing
for others.
> Has it helped you decide any area you wish to focus on or contribute
>
> to more?
>
> Not really more than I already have.
> Have you looked at or been able to work on any of the fi-apprentice
>
> 'easyfix' tickets?
> https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/report/14

I've looked about, and i've found some SOP creation tickets that I am going
to work on knocking out. I've a draft for the ipsilon SOP. I need to have
Patrick look over before I commit it.
> Do you still wish to be a member of the group? If not (for whatever
>
> reason) could you provide any hints to help others down the road?
>
> Yes.
> Is there any help or communication or ideas you have that would help
>
> you do any of the above?

Not at this time.
> What do you find to be the hardest part of getting involved?
>
> Finding things to work on? Getting attention from others to help you?

Nothing that is on the Project. Almost done transitioning to a normal type
of job. Which will help.
> Finding tickets in your interest area?
> Have you been able to make any weekly irc meetings? Do you find them
>
> helpful or interesting?

Not recently. Mostly due to seanding meetings at $day_job
> Have you logged into our Gobby instance and read/seen/added to our
>
> meeting agenda? https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Gobby

In the past, yet.
> What was the last song you listened to? (Live or recorded)

Disturbed's cover of 'Song of Silence.'
> Any other general feedback is also quite welcome, including
> improvements to this email, the wiki page, etc.

None.
> Any folks I do not hear from in the next week will be removed from the
> group. (Note that it's easy to be readded when you have time or
> whatever and it's nothing at all personal, we just want to keep the
> group up to date with active folks).
>
> Thanks, and looking forward to your feedback!
>
> kevin

[Corey Sheldon]

On 04/02/2016 05:06 PM, David Shier wrote:
> Answers in line.
>
> On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 10:49 AM, Kevin Fenzi <[e-mail]
> > wrote:
> You are getting this email because you are in the 'fi-apprentice'
> group
> in the fedora account system (or are reading this on the
> infrastructure list).
>
> Feel free to reply just directly to me, or cc the infrastructure list
> for everyone to see and comment on.
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure_Apprentice
>
> At the first of every month(or so), I am going to be sending out an
> email like this one. I would like feedback on how things are going for
> you.
>
> I'd like to ask for everyone to send me a quick reply with the
> following data or anything related you can think of that might help us
> make the apprentice program more useful.
>
> 0. Whats your fedora account system login?

corey84
> 1. Have you logged in and used your fi-apprentice membership to
> look at
> our machines/setup in the last month? Do you plan to?

I have hoewer  GSoC prep and RL have limited me to people and gobby
stuff this month.
> 2. Has it helped you decide any area you wish to focus on or
> contribute
> to more?  

Still sysadmin-y stuffs
> 3. Have you looked at or been able to work on any of the fi-apprentice
> 'easyfix' tickets?
> https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/report/14

Not in last two weeks
> 4. Do you still wish to be a member of the group? If not (for whatever
> reason) could you provide any hints to help others down the road?

Yes.
> 5. Is there any help or communication or ideas you have that would
> help
> you do any of the above?

We as a community should work on making SOP docs more approachable and 
better wording in 'easyfix' tickets might help in their  closing -- this
has several times has been hap-hazardly  mentioned but  stays on back
burner.  Maybe we institute a  meeting  time (or portion therein  once
or twice a month for such things (not much unlike the 'learn something'
segment.
> 6. What do you find to be the hardest part of getting involved?
> Finding things to work on? Getting attention from others to help you?

Time
> Have you been able to make any weekly irc meetings? Do you find them
>
> helpful or interesting?

Yes, but a few a bit more passively than preferred, thanks to meetbot  I
can catch up easily.
> 8. Have you logged into our Gobby instance and read/seen/added to our
> meeting agenda? https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Gobby

At least once every week
> 9. What was the last song you listened to? (Live or recorded)

Faith (Radio Edit version) -- Balsterjaxx
> Any other general feedback is also quite welcome, including
> improvements to this email, the wiki page, etc.

read #5
> Any folks I do not hear from in the next week will be removed from the
> group. (Note that it's easy to be readded when you have time or
> whatever and it's nothing at all personal, we just want to keep the
> group up to date with active folks).
>
> Thanks, and looking forward to your feedback!
>
> kevin
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Dave Shier